I was really shook up and justifiably upset seeing the remains of a once proud and formidable Super Star Destroyer in the trailer, but thankfully I found this GEM on this still photo to make my day marginally brighter.
"WE AIN'T FOUND SH!T!"
Downed Susper Star Destroyer in The Force Awakens
Has anyone thought Jakku just might be rather close to Endor and these are the remnants of the second Death Star battle... In the old EU it was kinda no fly zone but who wouldn't have gone there to scavenge tech.
I was really shook up and justifiably upset seeing the remains of a once proud and formidable Super Star Destroyer in the trailer, but thankfully I found this GEM on this still photo to make my day marginally brighter.
"WE AIN'T FOUND ****!"
But oh, are they about to....
Hmm, where are the banks of 2 engines? Is this a overturned SSD, or a smaller variant?
Has anyone thought Jakku just might be rather close to Endor and these are the remnants of the second Death Star battle... In the old EU it was kinda no fly zone but who wouldn't have gone there to scavenge tech.
It's pretty improbable. The Executor crashed into the Death Star II during that battle, and shortly afterward the station vaporized, leaving almost nothing in its wake other than a few sparse chunks (like the one Shug Ninx turned into the entrance to his shop).
Hmm, where are the banks of 2 engines? Is this a overturned SSD, or a smaller variant?
Destroyed/blown off?
Has anyone thought Jakku just might be rather close to Endor
Well Endor is a moon, maybe it's Jakku's moon.
It's pretty improbable.
The Executor crashed into the Death Star II during that battle, and shortly afterward the station vaporized, leaving almost nothing in its wake other than a few sparse chunks (like the one Shug Ninx turned into the entrance to his shop).
Again the events of the so called Return of the Jedi were nothing more than a shoddy, poorly made, third rate, substandard Rebel propaganda holo vid.
The Empire is Victorious on ALL Fronts.
Please immediately report to the nearest Imperial Ministry of Re-education and Plebeian Exploitation office for a debriefing.
interesting
Some point out that this crashed ship is missing the middle two engine banks (The arrangement is 3-2-3 on the Executors), but I think the bells on the right are part of the middle two and the ones left of us are missing.
I'm interested in what her name was. Executor is long gone. The presence of this ship also proves that more than one Executor existed in the Star Wars new Canon.
The Darth Vader comics do too, Cassio Tagge has the Annihilator. And it may no longer be called the Executor-class given the Executor's no longer the first.
Well Endor is a moon, maybe it's Jakku's moon.
Very improbable. The moon you see in Return of the Jedi is (or was) the PLANET Endor's moon, its "the sanctuary Moon of Endor," not Endor itself.
Some sources (like the novelization and early draft scripts) say the gas giant Endor no longer exists, while newer fiction have made claims that its still there but the moon was pulled from its orbit by the star systems sun, based on a pinkish planet seen in some shots of the space battle in the movie.
But if it was pulled form orbit why would the planet be seen? 
I subscribe to the lore that gas giant Endor was lost long ago and the moon is whats left.
Very improbable. The moon you see in Return of the Jedi is (or was) the PLANET Endor's moon, its "the sanctuary Moon of Endor," not Endor itself.
Incorrect. There is one line in return of the Jedi that is unambiguous. Vader says "A small rebel force has penetrated the shield and landed on Endor". Everywhere else it is "the forest moon of Endor", which could go either way, but that one line pretty incontrovertibly shows that the celestial body the shield generator was on was itself named Endor.
Edited by ForgottenloreAs you read above I am going by the 1983 novelization and the early drafts of the script (when it was still Revenge of the Jedi), but lets use Wookieepedia for a quick reference.
The Planet Endor itself.
There may be newer fiction that alters the above, but again I am basing what I stated above from 1983 or earlier source material, when a shared universe like Star Wars grows to what it is, lots of "facts" change by design or error.
In 2009 in the The Essential Atlas claims the gas giant still exists but that is a much later "fact" that only came out long after the original movies.
If a ship — Star Destroyer, Super Star Destroyer, Mon Cal whatnot, or what have you — is so well built as to be able to survive falling out of the sky and hitting a planet and still remain mostly intact, how is it that they are even ever damaged by weaponry? Sure, they are very cool visual effects shots, but I have a bad feeling that this is going to be typical JJ Abrams material: really fun, but the minute you look just slightly under the amazing surface you'll see a whole raft of things that just don't make sense.
If a ship — Star Destroyer, Super Star Destroyer, Mon Cal whatnot, or what have you — is so well built as to be able to survive falling out of the sky and hitting a planet and still remain mostly intact, how is it that they are even ever damaged by weaponry? Sure, they are very cool visual effects shots, but I have a bad feeling that this is going to be typical JJ Abrams material: really fun, but the minute you look just slightly under the amazing surface you'll see a whole raft of things that just don't make sense.
Yeah! Like the destruction of a command deck causing a vessel to careen into a space station!
Man, who the hell ever thought that one up?
Yeah! Like the destruction of a command deck causing a vessel to careen into a space station!
Again, proving the point that the events of the so called Return of the Jedi were nothing more than a shoddy, poorly made, third rate, substandard Rebel traitorous propaganda holo vid.
Jesus, no wonder Vader avoided Tatooine all these years. Apparently, imperial ships cannot help but crash on desert planets!
It's not a desert planet. It's (the moon of) Endor after 30 years of Imperial-made climate change.
Endor? The Ewoks! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
It's not a desert planet. It's (the moon of) Endor after 30 years of Imperial-made climate change.
If a ship — Star Destroyer, Super Star Destroyer, Mon Cal whatnot, or what have you — is so well built as to be able to survive falling out of the sky and hitting a planet and still remain mostly intact, how is it that they are even ever damaged by weaponry? Sure, they are very cool visual effects shots, but I have a bad feeling that this is going to be typical JJ Abrams material: really fun, but the minute you look just slightly under the amazing surface you'll see a whole raft of things that just don't make sense.
You just described Star Wars to a tee in a lot of ways.XD
You just described Star Wars to a tee in a lot of ways.XDIf a ship — Star Destroyer, Super Star Destroyer, Mon Cal whatnot, or what have you — is so well built as to be able to survive falling out of the sky and hitting a planet and still remain mostly intact, how is it that they are even ever damaged by weaponry? Sure, they are very cool visual effects shots, but I have a bad feeling that this is going to be typical JJ Abrams material: really fun, but the minute you look just slightly under the amazing surface you'll see a whole raft of things that just don't make sense.
While warhammer 40k is about being grimdark first and being believable comes in at 1056033th place.
If a ship — Star Destroyer, Super Star Destroyer, Mon Cal whatnot, or what have you — is so well built as to be able to survive falling out of the sky and hitting a planet and still remain mostly intact, how is it that they are even ever damaged by weaponry? Sure, they are very cool visual effects shots, but I have a bad feeling that this is going to be typical JJ Abrams material: really fun, but the minute you look just slightly under the amazing surface you'll see a whole raft of things that just don't make sense.
Well, if you want to be logical about this and treat the depicted material as evidence... The answer is because their weapons are powerful enough to do damage? These guys know how to destroy planets at the push of a button, they can probably punch holes through the materials they use in engineering projects.
Though we don't know how hard these impacted the desert (though Grevious' dreadnought survived a guided crash landing relatively intact), so that's another factor.
If a ship — Star Destroyer, Super Star Destroyer, Mon Cal whatnot, or what have you — is so well built as to be able to survive falling out of the sky and hitting a planet and still remain mostly intact, how is it that they are even ever damaged by weaponry? Sure, they are very cool visual effects shots, but I have a bad feeling that this is going to be typical JJ Abrams material: really fun, but the minute you look just slightly under the amazing surface you'll see a whole raft of things that just don't make sense.
Lasers having sounds in space?
WWII dogfights in space?
laser swords?
space magic.
Sounds like Star Wars to me. This is why I have so much faith in JJ Abrams with Star Wars.
If a ship — Star Destroyer, Super Star Destroyer, Mon Cal whatnot, or what have you — is so well built as to be able to survive falling out of the sky and hitting a planet and still remain mostly intact, how is it that they are even ever damaged by weaponry? Sure, they are very cool visual effects shots, but I have a bad feeling that this is going to be typical JJ Abrams material: really fun, but the minute you look just slightly under the amazing surface you'll see a whole raft of things that just don't make sense.
Well, if you want to be logical about this and treat the depicted material as evidence... The answer is because their weapons are powerful enough to do damage? These guys know how to destroy planets at the push of a button, they can probably punch holes through the materials they use in engineering projects.
Though we don't know how hard these impacted the desert (though Grevious' dreadnought survived a guided crash landing relatively intact), so that's another factor.
I figured that, this being J J Abrams, the star destroyers were brought down when whoever was manning the hatch failed to punch in the mysterious number series. That sort of thing tends to bring large vessels down with minimal damage.