EPIC: CR-90 Question

By Caliber42, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Ruthlessness vs. CR-90

Scenario: Turr Phennir is firing at the CR-90's aft and has Ruthlessness. Darth Vader is positioned within R1 of the fore. Turr Does the fore section count as another ship in R1 or does Vader? Common sense would dictate that Vader would unfortunately take the additional damage, but the question came up as to whether the fore section counted as a seperate ship for the purposes of the card. Thoughts?

-Cal

I'm not positive, but I think you did it correctly. The fore and aft sections count as the same ship for a number of purposes (notably target locks), so I'd guess they do for Ruthlessness, too.

I'm not positive, but I think you did it correctly. The fore and aft sections count as the same ship for a number of purposes (notably target locks), so I'd guess they do for Ruthlessness, too.

But they don't count as the same ship for things with area effects like Ion Torps or Assault Missiles - and attacks from certain angles will cause the aft section to block attacks on the fore (and vice versa) - so in those respects the two sections are treated as separate objects.

That said I think your reasoning is the most logical way to interpret this - but I can see it being ruled either way

I'm not positive, but I think you did it correctly. The fore and aft sections count as the same ship for a number of purposes (notably target locks), so I'd guess they do for Ruthlessness, too.

But they don't count as the same ship for things with area effects like Ion Torps or Assault Missiles - and attacks from certain angles will cause the aft section to block attacks on the fore (and vice versa) - so in those respects the two sections are treated as separate objects.

That said I think your reasoning is the most logical way to interpret this - but I can see it being ruled either way

See, I thought they did count as the same for Assault Missiles etc. If they count as separate there, that's the precedent I'd follow.

I'm not positive, but I think you did it correctly. The fore and aft sections count as the same ship for a number of purposes (notably target locks), so I'd guess they do for Ruthlessness, too.

But they don't count as the same ship for things with area effects like Ion Torps or Assault Missiles - and attacks from certain angles will cause the aft section to block attacks on the fore (and vice versa) - so in those respects the two sections are treated as separate objects.

That said I think your reasoning is the most logical way to interpret this - but I can see it being ruled either way

See, I thought they did count as the same for Assault Missiles etc. If they count as separate there, that's the precedent I'd follow.

Huge ship rules page 4 - only mentions assault missiles but it's safe to assume ion torps are treated the same.

Just before that it also mentions that TLs must be taken on a specific section of the ship - so as far as I remember while a TL taken by a huge ship can be applied to weapons on either section the reverse is not true for ships acquiring a TL on a huge ship - in that case you must choose which section of the ship to TL

I'll be honest - for someone who probably plays more epic than the average player I've been staggeringly lazy when it's come to learning the rules

https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/9a/0a/9a0a01e7-9634-4bb1-846a-c840387f19ba/x-wing-huge-ship-rules.pdf

Edited by Funkleton
Huge ships rules, page 4:


"Assault Missiles: If a huge ship is attacked by Assault Missiles, which damages all ships at Range 1 of the defender, the player measures range from the targeted section. The huge ship’s other section does not suffer damage in this case."


It would stand to reason that all other attacks that result in an area effect would follow the same rule, ruthlessness included.