So last night the humans were backed against the wall at destination 6. 2 base stars were on the board. every raider was on the board flanking a square that contained all the civvie ships. It was grim for humanity...then legendary discovery occured.

My question is this: since you resolve the skill check first, then cylon icons

This would mean that you resolve any treachery cards, then you place the 1 on the destination pile, bringing you to new caprica.

As a result you clear the board, before the raiders get to activate, yes?

Is that the crisis with one distance on it? As I understand it, you are correct.

Interesting situation and I don't think anyone would complain about how you played it.

Although from a strict rules perspective, I don't think you'd get a board reset. When you get to New Caprica the only thing that happens is to move all humans to Resistance HQ and all revealed Cylons to Occupation HQ on the new board. You then ignore all symbols but jump preparation until Galactica returns, so raiders would not activate from that crisis (though from memory I thought Legendary Discovery launched rather than activated raiders). Then when Galactica does return, sooner rather than later as you're probably still half way up the jump track, you would add the end game vipers and base stars, current player choosing where to put them if you are now out of plastic peices.

However, until Legendary Discovery gets some errata, you should probably remove it from the game entirely. Since as currently written, you place the successful Crisis Card beside the Kobol Objective card, which will be safely tucked away in the original game box.

My group joked we had just gone to so much effort to turn the ship around and fly back to Kobol when searching for New Caprica.

Good point on it saying Kobol.

the rules say you keep the centurions on board, and any ships placed by a destination card, so i imagine that you clear the rest.

As I understand it, you do not get a board reset when Legendary Discovery appears; it merely adds to the distance you have gone. The board is cleared when the fleet jumps, not when the distance traveled increases.

Errata aside, if it is allowed use with New Caprica, the board would probably not clear. The intention seems to be to leave ships that would have existed after the fleet jumps. If they don't jump (because of Legendary Discovery), it does not seem like the board should clear.

I've been thinking about this situation for a while, and I think the best solution is NOT to go to New Caprica right away, but instead errata the rules so that you only land on New Caprica after a proper jump. This would completely eliminate the issue of what to do with existing ships on the board, where the jump track should be set, etc.

+1. I think going straight after the rules, you instantly go to NC without clearing the board, but that doesn't make much sense. So I would either wait for a proper jump, for which no destination card is drawn (like the old jump to Kobol), or to sweep the board.

Sinis said:

good point.

Thanks, all!

I disagree with some of you. Here is what the rule state

MainGameBoard:Leaveanycenturiontokensonthe Boarding Party track in their current position, as well as any Cylon ships placed in a space area by the Destination Card. These will remain in place and are unaffected by any game mechanic until Galactica returns to orbit.

regardless of weather or not your jumping, where the jump track is or anything else you have reached new caprica, the cylons have showed up and Galactica leaves. I can see the confusion but in the case because there is a card and rules that tells you what to do when you reach destination 7 you should do not. Not change what normally happens because it doesn't happened exactly the normal way.

Sorthlador said:

I think the interpretation of the rules I posted makes sense. You clear the board of cylons when the fleet jumps. Legendary Discovery is not jumping. So, the cylons are not cleared. The rules about arriving at distance 7 with the New Caprica Objective (the New Caprica phase) say *nothing* about removing ships, it only says to leave ships that are placed by a destination card.

The rule about leaving ships placed by the destination card (Cylon Ambush) is for clarity more than anything else, when the fleet jumps, you clear the board, then pick a destination, and then place new ships if the destination instructs you to do so.

I think it's pretty clear cut. I think your confusion comes from assuming that what is happening with the New Caprica phase and Legendary Discovery is somehow the same as jumping in a different way, when they aren't the same thing at all (you normally jump to distance 7, with Legendary Discovery, you are not jumping at all).

The only problem is that Legendary Discovery is placed next to the Kobol Objective, and may not count for distance for the New Caprica Objective.