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By Doc, the Weasel, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

Allegedly George told Dave Filoni that Fett survives, I'd say that trumps a game trailer.

At this point I don't think it does. Lucas doesn't really have any say over Star Wars anymore. Even if Lucas told Filoni that he wanted Boba Fett to survive, the only that really matters is whether it ends up in a story.

If it appears now in a comic, novel, movie or TV show, that would be definitive but until then it's just speculation, isn't it?

I'm pretty much with you, but (in some cases unfortunately) it's a case of "if it comes out of George's mouth, then it's 'real'". This leads to (imo) ridiculous nonsense like "Stewjon" being Obi-Wan's home world.It was said pre-Disney, when he was still in charge.

But by the story group's new, set in stone laws, it was never in a movie, TV show, official book or comic. So yes, hearsay until it's not. (But I'd still rate it higher than a video game screen shot if I really had to) :)

I am leaning to Rey or potentially both of them. Rey is generally rumored to be a Han-Leia child and has a very Padme-like appearance.

For the lightsaber hand-off, I do think it's a younger hand giving to an older, I am thinking someone giving it to Leia but could be way off there.

I think it is a new alien species who is selling the light sabre to her. Luke's lightsaber was obviously recovered by some random maintenance person/droid and it has passed a few hands for big space bucks..

It may be the alien we see walking by JJ in one of those Force for Change vids they released last year... I kind of hope so, but probably not...

Related to Boba Fett,

What I have read, and obviously all of it is rumor, is that there is going to be an anthology movie about Boba Fett. Not, however, Jango Fett's clone son. Instead, it's going to be a friend or acquaintance or someone that Boba Fett knows is going to take up the mantle of Boba Fett after he is killed. And, I don't mean killed in RotJ, before RotJ. What I read was that Disney isn't happy with the way Lucas handled Boba's origin story and so were going to reinvent him as an anti-hero. I think they weren't happy because he's such an iconic character that they would like to develop, but it's difficult to cast someone who is supposed to be a clone of someone else who, for age reasons, can't play a younger clone of himself again. And, I think we can safely assume the sarlaac pit isn't going to be his demise. It wasn't in EU/Legends and it'll change in canon too, I'm guessing.

So... One question came to me, where did you read this???

Related to Boba Fett,

What I have read, and obviously all of it is rumor, is that there is going to be an anthology movie about Boba Fett. Not, however, Jango Fett's clone son. Instead, it's going to be a friend or acquaintance or someone that Boba Fett knows is going to take up the mantle of Boba Fett after he is killed. And, I don't mean killed in RotJ, before RotJ. What I read was that Disney isn't happy with the way Lucas handled Boba's origin story and so were going to reinvent him as an anti-hero. I think they weren't happy because he's such an iconic character that they would like to develop, but it's difficult to cast someone who is supposed to be a clone of someone else who, for age reasons, can't play a younger clone of himself again. And, I think we can safely assume the sarlaac pit isn't going to be his demise. It wasn't in EU/Legends and it'll change in canon too, I'm guessing.

So... One question came to me, where did you read this???

here is a link: http://screenrant.com/star-wars-7-boba-fett-spinoff-new-character/

Apparently screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan, who wrote/co-wrote ESB, ROTJ, and Ep VII, dislikes the clones in the PT. As well Boba's origin being a clone of Jango Fett.

To be honest, I had always thought the Clone Wars(way back in the day before the PT) had involved the Mandalorians and others (hence the name Clone Wars, not Clone War) creating clone armies and laying waste to the galaxy until the Republic and the Jedi stomped them into the ground and rounded up every piece of cloning tech they could find and destroy it. Then when AOTC came out I was astounded that anyone would use cloning technology that took ten years to fully develop a clone and astounded that only 1.2 million units were ordered. I mean really? I don't care how good the clones are but 1.2 million of them is not enough to secure a galaxy.

In one of the OT novelizations it said that the Mandalorians were defeated by the Jedi in the Clone Wars but Lucas apparently changed his mind pre-PT.

However 1.2 million units doesn't necessarily equal 1.2 million clones. For all we know a unit was a squad, platoon, company, or even battalion

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Related to Boba Fett,

What I have read, and obviously all of it is rumor, is that there is going to be an anthology movie about Boba Fett. Not, however, Jango Fett's clone son. Instead, it's going to be a friend or acquaintance or someone that Boba Fett knows is going to take up the mantle of Boba Fett after he is killed. And, I don't mean killed in RotJ, before RotJ. What I read was that Disney isn't happy with the way Lucas handled Boba's origin story and so were going to reinvent him as an anti-hero. I think they weren't happy because he's such an iconic character that they would like to develop, but it's difficult to cast someone who is supposed to be a clone of someone else who, for age reasons, can't play a younger clone of himself again. And, I think we can safely assume the sarlaac pit isn't going to be his demise. It wasn't in EU/Legends and it'll change in canon too, I'm guessing.

So... One question came to me, where did you read this???

here is a link: http://screenrant.com/star-wars-7-boba-fett-spinoff-new-character/

Apparently screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan, who wrote/co-wrote ESB, ROTJ, and Ep VII, dislikes the clones in the PT. As well Boba's origin being a clone of Jango Fett.

To be honest, I had always thought the Clone Wars(way back in the day before the PT) had involved the Mandalorians and others (hence the name Clone Wars, not Clone War) creating clone armies and laying waste to the galaxy until the Republic and the Jedi stomped them into the ground and rounded up every piece of cloning tech they could find and destroy it. Then when AOTC came out I was astounded that anyone would use cloning technology that took ten years to fully develop a clone and astounded that only 1.2 million units were ordered. I mean really? I don't care how good the clones are but 1.2 million of them is not enough to secure a galaxy.

It is when half of the galaxy thinks your clones are heroes and the other half's droids have been flipped off like a light switch.

In one of the OT novelizations it said that the Mandalorians were defeated by the Jedi in the Clone Wars but Lucas apparently changed his mind pre-PT.

However 1.2 million units doesn't necessarily equal 1.2 million clones. For all we know a unit was a squad, platoon, company, or even battalion

It was implied in both the Film and Novelization of AOTC. And unit is an appropriate term in the POV of factory worker making a useful product..

That's the first batch of combat ready, remember we also see tweens in training, and embryo tubes, so I'm pretty sure the 1.2 mil was the tip of the iceberg. It's likely there was 10 years worth at various stages of production, and there is no mention of scale. I doubt it's intended the 1.2 mil were going to be it, that's just what Palpatine kicked things off with. I'm sure he scaled up production during TCW itself to a much higher level.

A Star Wars underworld idea for one of those anthology movies would be fun, just use Fett and Jabba as protagonists.

fixed that for you.

A new "extended" trailer :)

Oh the burden this man carries. . . .

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Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

I wonder if the "New Republic" (by whatever name) exists and is backing the "Resistance" against an Imperial remnant known as the "First Order"... Or some such.

I wonder if the "New Republic" (by whatever name) exists and is backing the "Resistance" against an Imperial remnant known as the "First Order"... Or some such.

90% sure an earlier release said "There is no New Republic" so I'm expecting it's going to essentially be Rebellion 2.0 vs. Empire 2.0.

I can't blame them really, it seems they went to some lengths to cut the EU cord, including the New Republic, even if only the name, would have just applied some of that EU baggage to something that clearly wants to avoid EU baggage.

I wonder if the "New Republic" (by whatever name) exists and is backing the "Resistance" against an Imperial remnant known as the "First Order"... Or some such.

90% sure an earlier release said "There is no New Republic" so I'm expecting it's going to essentially be Rebellion 2.0 vs. Empire 2.0.

I can't blame them really, it seems they went to some lengths to cut the EU cord, including the New Republic, even if only the name, would have just applied some of that EU baggage to something that clearly wants to avoid EU baggage.

They better wrap up this war quick then. Part of that EU baggage was superweapon this, Second Imperium that. Even the Dominion War in Star Trek had a resolution and that was that franchise's greatest conflict in terms of Audio-Visual Media. The Prequel Trilogy saw the rise of the Empire, the Original Trilogy saw the rise of the Rebellion. Now the Sequel Trilogy must see the end of either one.. or both.

Part of that EU baggage was superweapon this, Second Imperium that.

That's kinda my thought too. It's more weird that Rebels AND TFA are pulling from McQuarrie, resulting in a really similar looking aesthetic... it's almost like the universe is folding over on itself.... I'm all for visual consistency, but theres a point where it starts being some kind of weird visual design meta....

I've been thinking about a couple of things, with the First Order, Resistance and who the has the force of the new characters.

First off, I believe that the rebellion succeeded in destroying the death star throwing the empire into chaos but was put down off screen. The survivors of the open rebellion went behind the scenes and rejoined the empire to form the resistance - a movement that still wishes to overthrow the empire, but can't do it openly - the rebel alliance lost too many ships and people during Endor.

This defeat led to the first order - a group that, tired of the manipulations of force users, such as starting the clone wars by the Jedi (which palpatine put down with order 66) and the paranoid super weapons of palpatine and the sith. The first order intends to wipe out ALL force users and eradicate then. They paint the Jedi and Sith as one and the same, and wipe out any force users as they will try to manipulate people and take power.

This is why Finn is so upset during the first teaser - he has just escapes being executed my Captain Phasma, who is the in charge of hunting down the force using monsters.

I believe during all this Jedi and force user purge, Luke took the Falcon from Han (either loaned or "borrowed") taking his Han and Leia's daughter Rey (Kira) into hiding. This is why Han says "we're home". After all this time looking, Han has tracked down his ship and family.

A good hypothesis but there are some flaws..

Palpatine was behind the creation of the Clone Army and instigated the Clone Wars, not the Jedi.

The general population had no idea that the Emperor is a Sith Lord, in the eyes of the general population that mantle solely belonged to Vader. I also highly doubt most of the Imperial Officers realized that the Emperor was a Sith except some of the higher ranking ones.

At the end of Return of the Jedi there are only two potential Force users, Luke(now a Jedi) and Leia(just learned about her heritage). So far everything released indicates that there are very very few Force sensitives beyond those two and none of them know about that sensitivity.

The general population had no idea that the Emperor is a Sith Lord, in the eyes of the general population that mantle solely belonged to Vader. I also highly doubt most of the Imperial Officers realized that the Emperor was a Sith except some of the higher ranking ones.

This point is emphasized in Lords of the Sith. Even though there are times when the Emperor uses his powers he openly comments at one point don't assisting because of to many witnesses.

Also the super weapon concept is from the Tarkin Doctrine. It is part of how Tarkin sees using Fear to create Order. Something we learned in Tarkin. Also that he was someone Palpatine had sought out to be apart of his plan even before the Clone Wars.

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A good hypothesis but there are some flaws..

Palpatine was behind the creation of the Clone Army and instigated the Clone Wars, not the Jedi.

The general population had no idea that the Emperor is a Sith Lord, in the eyes of the general population that mantle solely belonged to Vader. I also highly doubt most of the Imperial Officers realized that the Emperor was a Sith except some of the higher ranking ones.

At the end of Return of the Jedi there are only two potential Force users, Luke(now a Jedi) and Leia(just learned about her heritage). So far everything released indicates that there are very very few Force sensitives beyond those two and none of them know about that sensitivity.

As to the officer thing, I'm sure after palpatine's death, someone went through his stuff and the jedi temple and could find out what he was, some high ranking individuals could have known what vader was as well. After all, he had a propensity for chocking officers on the deathstar and his flagships. Killing anyone with force sensitivity would be easy enough to figure out, even without being checked for the hated midichlorians. Aresko Cumberlayne flagged a couple of students Ad being "too good"

And sent it to the inquisitor.

Heck, the inquisitors Coulsnhave staged a coup to generate force user hate.

I always thought that was stupid. The people were supposed to believe that the Jedi somehow got close enough to cause the damage Palpatine claims they inflicted on him while trying to kill him and he not only somehow survived but was on his feet by the next day at the latest?

I always thought that was stupid. The people were supposed to believe that the Jedi somehow got close enough to cause the damage Palpatine claims they inflicted on him while trying to kill him and he not only somehow survived but was on his feet by the next day at the latest?

Fortunately Darth Vader was there to save him. I heard the Emperor was so grateful he made Vader his primary enforcer. ;)

I've been thinking about a couple of things, with the First Order, Resistance and who the has the force of the new characters.

First off, I believe that the rebellion succeeded in destroying the death star throwing the empire into chaos but was put down off screen. The survivors of the open rebellion went behind the scenes and rejoined the empire to form the resistance - a movement that still wishes to overthrow the empire, but can't do it openly - the rebel alliance lost too many ships and people during Endor.

This defeat led to the first order - a group that, tired of the manipulations of force users, such as starting the clone wars by the Jedi (which palpatine put down with order 66) and the paranoid super weapons of palpatine and the sith. The first order intends to wipe out ALL force users and eradicate then. They paint the Jedi and Sith as one and the same, and wipe out any force users as they will try to manipulate people and take power.

This is why Finn is so upset during the first teaser - he has just escapes being executed my Captain Phasma, who is the in charge of hunting down the force using monsters.

I believe during all this Jedi and force user purge, Luke took the Falcon from Han (either loaned or "borrowed") taking his Han and Leia's daughter Rey (Kira) into hiding. This is why Han says "we're home". After all this time looking, Han has tracked down his ship and family.

From what I can tell, Kylo Ren (spl?) is a Force user and he's the leader of the First Order and he's a Sith.

A good hypothesis but there are some flaws..

Palpatine was behind the creation of the Clone Army and instigated the Clone Wars, not the Jedi.

The general population had no idea that the Emperor is a Sith Lord, in the eyes of the general population that mantle solely belonged to Vader. I also highly doubt most of the Imperial Officers realized that the Emperor was a Sith except some of the higher ranking ones.

At the end of Return of the Jedi there are only two potential Force users, Luke(now a Jedi) and Leia(just learned about her heritage). So far everything released indicates that there are very very few Force sensitives beyond those two and none of them know about that sensitivity.

Palpatine was behind the Clone Army and he instigated the Clone Wars, but... he set it up in such a fashion that he can very easily place the blame on the Jedi. Who created the Clone army? Jedi Master Sifo Dyas. Who led the Separatists? Jedi Master Dooku. The threat of the Sith was simply a red herring the Jedi used to plunge the galaxy into war in their reckless quest to secure power over the Republic and usurp the power of the Senate and Chancellor.

No idea on the story other than beating the Empire and restoring the Republic wasn't as easy as everyone thought.

For those that would like to keep track of how long.

http://www.starwarsepisode7-movie.com/release-date