New teaser

By Doc, the Weasel, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

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To keep up the (blatantly false) illusion of this post being game-focused, please discuss what you think the difficulty of piloting checks should be for a starship being chased through the wreckage of a Star Destroyer.

Oh, for the Millennium Falcon? Silhouette 4, let's say speed 4, so that would be 2 purple and 2 reds, and throw in at least 3 setback dice for good measure.

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That's pretty much how I felt... oh how she laughed at me ... I tell myself it was a good kind of laugh, kind, loving laugh... :ph34r:

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Did anyone else notice that in one of the images posted by Desslok, Finn has a lightsaber suspiciously similar to Anakin's old saber?

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I agree it appears to be a woman handing the lightsaber to Leia. So are we talking about a force-using child of Luke or Han-Leia? The speech and scene seems to imply the later to me.

Luke is making a slightly modified version of Luke-Leia on Endor speech. Is this actually a conversation from the new movie paying homage to Ep VI or is it just a speech made for the trailer? This is very important because.....

Luke sounds as if he says, "My father HAS it"...not..."My father HAD it". WTF? Edit - Ghost Vader is standing nearby during the speech?

Love the idea of a Stormtrooper watching a village burn by Flametroopers then having a morality melt-down and jumping ship.

The crashed Super Star Destroyer. It's apparenlty also flipped upside down before it crashed. Too cool :)

It's the actual episode VI dialogue, slightly reordered. If you play them back to back its obvious. Trailers do thus sort of thing all the time, using dialogue or even whole scenes purely for the trailer that aren't in the finished movie.

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I think it's a woman (possibly Rey) handing the lightsaber to Leia as Luke is saying "my sister has it..." When Vader's melted helmet appears he says "my father had it..." the shot with R2 shows a figure with a mechanical right hand which most likely Luke as he says "I have it...

I'm not convinced. The hand that's receiving the lightsaber looks much younger than the hand that's giving it. But on my eleventh viewing in a twenty-four hour period, it does seem more ambiguous. I'll stand to my guns, though, in the event that I'm right and I score a billion units of nerd cred.

Did anyone else notice that in one of the images posted by Desslok, Finn has a lightsaber suspiciously similar to Anakin's old saber?

I thought it was pretty straightforward that Finn was the favorite to become Luke's student, but it could also just as obviously have been Rey. It could be Rey now, since the concept art might have been done for an earlier version of the script.

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I'm not convinced. The hand that's receiving the lightsaber looks much younger than the hand that's giving it. But on my eleventh viewing in a twenty-four hour period, it does seem more ambiguous. I'll stand to my guns, though, in the event that I'm right and I score a billion units of nerd cred.

Did anyone else notice that in one of the images posted by Desslok, Finn has a lightsaber suspiciously similar to Anakin's old saber?

I thought it was pretty straightforward that Finn was the favorite to become Luke's student, but it could also just as obviously have been Rey. It could be Rey now, since the concept art might have been done for an earlier version of the script.

I am leaning to Rey or potentially both of them. Rey is generally rumored to be a Han-Leia child and has a very Padme-like appearance.

For the lightsaber hand-off, I do think it's a younger hand giving to an older, I am thinking someone giving it to Leia but could be way off there.

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To me the hand giving the lightsaber looks kinda orange-ish, perhaps not quite human.

I would've thought that lightsaber fell onto Bespin when the hatch opened at the bottom of Cloud City but I guess we'll find out!

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All i got to say is HIP-HIP HOORAY!!!!

The Name "New Republic" and all the drivel to come after in the books are officially DEAD!!!

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All i got to say is HIP-HIP HOORAY!!!!

The Name "New Republic" and all the drivel to come after in the books are officially DEAD!!!

Easy there man... some of that "drivel" is what some of us have based our childhoods on and we are still grieving...

Although I agree with you on the name "New Republic" was just odd.. "Republic" would have just fine with me...

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All i got to say is HIP-HIP HOORAY!!!!

The Name "New Republic" and all the drivel to come after in the books are officially DEAD!!!

Easy there man... some of that "drivel" is what some of us have based our childhoods on and we are still grieving...

Although I agree with you on the name "New Republic" was just odd.. "Republic" would have just fine with me...

LOL trust me.. i rode that boat with you ,40+ here.. and some of it was simply.. Bleah!..IMHO

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So we have a Resistance (Rebellion) and a First Order (Empire)... does this mean the Rebel Alliance failed? If so, doesn't that sort of invalidate the purpose of the Rebel Alliance in the OT?

Why are Han and Chewie home? Did they loose the Falcon?

The previous cnn article said Luke and Leia are't in the trailer but...

"My father has it..." show Darth Vader's helmet

"I have it..." show someone with a new metal hand with R2... Luke or Luke's son?

"my sister has it..." show someone female being handed Anakin's lightsaber... Leia or Leia's daughter?

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Tremayne, i think that maybe after the battle of Endor there was a widespread rebellion and a a sizable part of the galaxy openly joined the Rebel Alliance who restructured itself and started calling itself the Resistance; conversely the Empire changed name to reflect the death of Palpatine.

I wouldn't say that the Rebel Alliance failed,since they managed to kill the Emperor, but they certainly didn't "crush the Empire in one swift strike", and it keeps fighting under a new name.

As for Han and Chewie maybe they retired for a while and now are back in business on their old ship

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I would've thought that lightsaber fell onto Bespin when the hatch opened at the bottom of Cloud City but I guess we'll find out!

The new trailer gives some cloit clout to this opening scene. MAJOR SPOILERS FOLLOW:

http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2015/03/rumor-force-awakens-opening-shots.html

The start of this scene has a lightsaber falling from space to the new desert planet's surface (well possibly not, if there happen to be two desertish planets that Finn ends up upon). Shortly after the saber's fall it passes through a few hands then ends up with BB-8. Later it seems we will see BB-8 meet up with both Rey and Finn. Concept art has Finn holding the Anakin/Luke lightsaber. We see this same lightsaber being handed from one female to another later (Rey to Leia?). So if this opening scene is correct, how did the lightsaber travel from a gas giant, Bespin, to orbit of some new desert-like planet? If it was found and transported there then lost again, perhaps the opening dialogue explains it?

For a bit I had hopes this new planet was Endor until they named it and we got a close look at the lightsaber. Endor?! We see desert, but some vegetation sprinkled with crashed ships (SD's, X-wing), destroyed AT-AT in concept art, and other junk. Imagine the Death Star II exploding along with the SSD sunk into it plus lots of other epic space battle junk all in direct orbit over Endor. Perhaps lots of that massive amount of junk eventually gets pulled into Endor crashing down into its jungles. Thirty years later at least a portion of the planet is a desert filled with all kinds of salvage that has been raining from the sky for years. Then finally one of the lightsabers lost on the Death Star II by Vader or the Emperor gets pulled into Endor's gravity causing the opening scene. I thought that would be fairly cool especially if we also get to see some back story of the junk falling and Ewok's running around bursting into flames. :)

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Per the EA Battlefront panel - spoilers follow!

The desert planet is called Jakku, and some DLC for the new Star Wars Battlefront game will center around the battle that resulted in those crashed ships on the surface.


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Just as a thing, would y'all mind putting actual spoiler tags around spoilers from the movie that don't appear in the trailer? Thanks!

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So we have a Resistance (Rebellion) and a First Order (Empire)... does this mean the Rebel Alliance failed? If so, doesn't that sort of invalidate the purpose of the Rebel Alliance in the OT?

Although it's a good assumption, maybe the First Order is not the EU's Empire Remnant. Maybe everyone formed a singular government, and in the last 30 years it fragmented (again).

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So we have a Resistance (Rebellion) and a First Order (Empire)... does this mean the Rebel Alliance failed? If so, doesn't that sort of invalidate the purpose of the Rebel Alliance in the OT?

Although it's a good assumption, maybe the First Order is not the EU's Empire Remnant. Maybe everyone formed a singular government, and in the last 30 years it fragmented (again).

My first instinct is the Alliance was able to carve out a sizable portion of the galaxy because the Empire splintered after Palpatine's death. The First Order could easily be one of those factions, or maybe a reunification faction that's been pulling together the disparate parts of the Empire. That would make the new rebels the Resistance to the First Order specifically.

Alternatively, the Alliance was crushed after the Battle of Endor, but I don't see why they would change from the Rebellion to the Resistance. Obviously they're supposed to be two different things, otherwise they wouldn't have changed the name, but the exact reasons elude me.

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The fact people are interested and speculating rather than discussing which part of the EU is best sounds like new life breathed into the franchise imo. Mission accomplished to a certain extent.

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So we have a Resistance (Rebellion) and a First Order (Empire)... does this mean the Rebel Alliance failed? If so, doesn't that sort of invalidate the purpose of the Rebel Alliance in the OT?

Although it's a good assumption, maybe the First Order is not the EU's Empire Remnant. Maybe everyone formed a singular government, and in the last 30 years it fragmented (again).

My first instinct is the Alliance was able to carve out a sizable portion of the galaxy because the Empire splintered after Palpatine's death. The First Order could easily be one of those factions, or maybe a reunification faction that's been pulling together the disparate parts of the Empire. That would make the new rebels the Resistance to the First Order specifically.

Alternatively, the Alliance was crushed after the Battle of Endor, but I don't see why they would change from the Rebellion to the Resistance. Obviously they're supposed to be two different things, otherwise they wouldn't have changed the name, but the exact reasons elude me.

Anything is possible (which, as 2P51 stated is great). In the 30 years before RotJ, there were two civil wars. Another one afterwards isn't so unlikely.

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I think it's likely to be a nice realistic take on the outcomes post Battle of Endor. The emperor had turned control over to local governors and after his death it's likely they all turned on each other vying for supremacy.

The rebels might simply have not been prepared for the speed of the collapse or been able to govern well. They wouldn't be the first revolution that did very well at the revolution and then sucked beans at actually ruling. After all it's senior leadership were old Republic people and they weren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed for good governance.

So at some point the various Imperial factions are brought under a single new leadership, 'the first order' post war, and the 'resistance' to that grows out of the rebellion.

Just my guesses, but again, fun to be able to guess.

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Per the EA Battlefront panel - spoilers follow!

The desert planet is called Jakku, and some DLC for the new Star Wars Battlefront game will center around the battle that resulted in those crashed ships on the surface.

Pure awesomeness with a side of blue milk. I recently upgraded to XBox One primarily in anticipation of this game.

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My first instinct is the Alliance was able to carve out a sizable portion of the galaxy because the Empire splintered after Palpatine's death. The First Order could easily be one of those factions, or maybe a reunification faction that's been pulling together the disparate parts of the Empire. That would make the new rebels the Resistance to the First Order specifically.

Alternatively, the Alliance was crushed after the Battle of Endor, but I don't see why they would change from the Rebellion to the Resistance. Obviously they're supposed to be two different things, otherwise they wouldn't have changed the name, but the exact reasons elude me.

The Battlefront release page gives us more clues:

.......be among the first players to experience the Battle of Jakku, the pivotal moment when the New Republic confronted key Imperial holdouts on a remote desert planet in the Outer Rim. Taking place in the aftermath of the Rebel victory in the Battle of Endor, players will experience the events that created the massive, battle-scarred landscape of Jakku shown in Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
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So the "There is no 'New Republic'" line they gave a while back was apparently in reference to the actual new film...

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ROFL

Those little jokes are awesome.

As for Resistance vs First Order i agree with the idea that the Rebellion conquered some (big?) chunks of space from the fractured Empire, then the imperials reunited, perhaps under the leadership of one or more Sith, and put up a good fight, maybe even defeating the New Republic and reconquering the lost territory. Then the defeated New Republic turns into the Resistance, and the fight goes on.