Red Viper: kill 'em all ability

By Stag Lord, in 1. AGoT General Discussion

Awesome, thanks! My new favorite red viper! I just have to get some dupes for my renown characters in my deck.

flightmaster101 said:

So I had this situation where I was playing with two others, Player 1 draws Valar Morghullus (sp?), I have the Viper w/o dupes. Player 1 has Renly w/ 1 dupe, player 3 has Robb Stark and Quoran 1/2hand w/ 1 dupe. So does:

A) Valar kills all characters simultaneously, they use dupes to save Robb, Q, and Renly, then Viper's text takes place and he kills Robb, Renly and Q.

or

B)Viper's text happens simultaneously with Valar and Renly, Robb and Q only need 1 save and survive?

We played it A after some discussion, I just wanted to see what the opinion out there was, thanks.

a) definintely a)

Whether it happens simultaneously or after (I'm not getting into the intricacies of the framework for the purposes of this answer), there is still now a second kill effect on the stack. If they can only save their characters once, then p1 and p3 lose all characters.

So, did that crazy insane martel player ever used this viper??? was it as bad as the other one with lost oasis and cyvasse???

Francisco G. said:

So, did that crazy insane martel player ever used this viper??? was it as bad as the other one with lost oasis and cyvasse???

I believe this viper was out before either of those cards came to the pool. Bear in mind, this thread was started almost 3 years ago.

stormwolf27 said:

Francisco G. said:

So, did that crazy insane martel player ever used this viper??? was it as bad as the other one with lost oasis and cyvasse???

I believe this viper was out before either of those cards came to the pool. Bear in mind, this thread was started almost 3 years ago.

Cyvasse entered the card pool before the Kill'em all Viper. Not quite sure about Lost Oasis, but judging from this thread, it came shortly after.