Interesting history of the HWK-290

By Hobbyist, in X-Wing

FYI, the HWK-290 is slow compared to space superiority fighters and combat craft. It may well be plenty quick compared to other not-upgraded freighters (the YT series being famous for tweaks, including boosted engine performance and a lot more guns).

That said, I find it very fitting that the Moldy Crow specifically was the particular HWK-290 that so many of the named pilots wound up flying.

Yeah, a business jet can be "fast and agile" and still be hopelessly outmatched in maneuverability by an actual purpose-built war machine.

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I just hope it got cleaned a few times.

Just don't bust out the blacklight and you'll be fine.

I just remembered a Jan and Kyle image I found 10ever ago that is all too relevant to this, and believe me when I say I definitely was not looking for it.

I just hope it got cleaned a few times.

Just don't bust out the blacklight and you'll be fine.

I just remembered a Jan and Kyle image I found 10ever ago that is all too relevant to this, and believe me when I say I definitely was not looking for it.

I might have believed you weren't looking for it if you hadn't told me to.

I just hope it got cleaned a few times.

Just don't bust out the blacklight and you'll be fine.

I just remembered a Jan and Kyle image I found 10ever ago that is all too relevant to this, and believe me when I say I definitely was not looking for it.

I might have believed you weren't looking for it if you hadn't told me to.

I'll give you that, but I was about 10 and looking for images of the moldy crow. I was fairly obsessive.

... and originally (=during some time in the Dark Forces dev cycle) it looked like this:

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Looks like a Baudo-class star yacht.

Huh. The Pulsar Skate is a Baudo class Star Yacht... it would be cool to have one of those in the game. I love those smooth lines.

FYI, the HWK-290 is slow compared to space superiority fighters and combat craft. It may well be plenty quick compared to other not-upgraded freighters (the YT series being famous for tweaks, including boosted engine performance and a lot more guns).

That said, I find it very fitting that the Moldy Crow specifically was the particular HWK-290 that so many of the named pilots wound up flying.

Yeah, a business jet can be "fast and agile" and still be hopelessly outmatched in maneuverability by an actual purpose-built war machine.

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... and originally (=during some time in the Dark Forces dev cycle) it looked like this:

Oldcrow.png

Looks like a Baudo-class star yacht.

Huh. The Pulsar Skate is a Baudo class Star Yacht... it would be cool to have one of those in the game. I love those smooth lines.

Indeed. The Baudo is a sexy ship and if my group wasn't so attached to their Imperial Customs Frigate, I'd suggest the Baudo.

Uh, HWK doesn't look fast though. Then again, neither does the Falcon. I'm so bitter about the Falcon's dial.

Also, medal of honor for educating the masses.

those space freighters are surprisingly maneuverable!

Huh, didn't know Dace stole the Crow. But there it is in the history of that little ship.

Interestingly, the HWK in Dace's card art is most certainly not the Moldy Crow. Indeed, it's far, far cooler looking with the sweet corroded copper look, and is the entire reason I've recently started trying to figure out how to go about learning to paint my own miniatures. Meanwhile, Roark Garnet (who piloted prior to Dace's theft) shows him flying the brown variant seen on basically every other card with the exception of The Moldy Crow title card itself (where it's a paler, whiter color).

However, the planet in the card appears to be Teth, which is where Dace apparently took the Crow (along with his boy IG-72, who we also need in this game!) on a successful hunt.

My conclusion?

I don't care either way, all I want is to one day have the skills to paint a ship that looks like the one on Dace's card.

You know the Millennium Falcon originally looked like this, right?

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There's no reason you have to assume that just because the look different at different times that they're not the same ship. The original hull colors for the Crow might have been that corroded copper look, which was repainted by Roark once it came into his possession so it would be harder to track.

I understand they wanted to make a small base shuttle counterpart for the Rebels.

It seems more likely to me that they wanted to make a large base shuttle counterpart for the rebels but then were caught flat footed when Lucasfilm told them what the official size of the hwk was. Everything about the ship screams "rebel equivalent of the shuttle".

Maybe we should stick it on a large base and give it a whirl?

I understand they wanted to make a small base shuttle counterpart for the Rebels.

It seems more likely to me that they wanted to make a large base shuttle counterpart for the rebels but then were caught flat footed when Lucasfilm told them what the official size of the hwk was. Everything about the ship screams "rebel equivalent of the shuttle".

Maybe we should stick it on a large base and give it a whirl?

GOD NO! Can you IMAGINE? It'd be SUPER vulnerable then! Eugh! That... That would just CRIPPLE it.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090818044557/starwars/images/thumb/d/d3/Pskate.jpg/320px-Pskate.jpgThe

Skate and here's another Baudo http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071225094953/starwars/images/thumb/5/5f/Baudo-class_star_yacht.jpg/215px-Baudo-class_star_yacht.jpg

contrasting versions of the Baudo-class star yacht appear to exist in canon. Probably the better-known version is the design used for the Pulsar Skate in the Star Wars: X-Wing Rogue Squadron comics and Star Wars Customizable Card Game, appearing first in Star Wars: X-Wing Rogue Squadron: The Phantom Affair in 1996.

However, the earlier illustration in the Galaxy Guide 6: Tramp Freighters supplement for Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game (which was used as a silhouette in Pirates & Privateers) show a flatter and smoother starship: this seems to have served as the basis for the descriptions of the vessel in the X-Wing novels, and recently in Legacy of the Force: Exile. No canonical explanation has been offered to resolve the discrepancy.

The Moldy Crow was originally going to be a Baudo-class star yacht.Lol looks like the Baudo has its own problems without the Crow :D :D

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GOD NO! Can you IMAGINE? It'd be SUPER vulnerable then! Eugh! That... That would just CRIPPLE it.

I think the dial is a remnant of the designprocess where it was supposed to be a large base? It makes sense anyway. Of course, the succeeding waves have made it totally unviable, but placed like that in its wave?