Can you use "Dominator" after rolling inital attack dice?

By olafpkyou, in Star Wars: Armada

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I did this the other day in a game and my buddy thought it was unfair. But I tried explaining that under step 3 of attacking

Modify Dice: The attacker can resolve any of its effects that modify its dice. This includes card effects
and the concentrate fire command.
The way I understand that is that adding the extra dice from the dominator card is modifying it dice. It's modifying it by adding dice, correct?
But at the same time I can see how it could have meant to mean that you modify the dice already rolled (rerolls and changing faces)
But the fact that they put the concentrate fire command under step 3 leads me to believe I am correct?
Edited by olafpkyou
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Once you've got past Step 2, you can no longer add dice to the attack.

The focus fire command is the part that lets you reroll a dice, which isn't the same thing as adding more dice. Typically modifying the dice only means that you are able to do things that change the dice that are rolled, not add additional dice to the dice pool.

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Once you've got past Step 2, you can no longer add dice to the attack.

The focus fire command is the part that lets you reroll a dice, which isn't the same thing as adding more dice. Typically modifying the dice only means that you are able to do things that change the dice that are rolled, not add additional dice to the dice pool.

The concentrate fire command lets you add a dice to the attack. The token lets you reroll. The rules state concentrate fire command not concentrate fire token, so that is where our debate comes from.

EDIT: I just found under commands in the reference guide this bit:

Concentrate Fire: Resolve during the “Resolve Attack Effects” step of an attack
So in two spots the refernce guide they say you can use concentrate fire during step 3 of attack. So you must be able to add dice other ways during step 3?
Edited by olafpkyou
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It could be part of step 3 I guess.

But I'm not sure why that would be unfair, now that I'm looking at the correct part of the rules.

It's still done before defense tokens are spent, so the only thing you gain would be knowing what you already rolled.

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It could be part of step 3 I guess.

But I'm not sure why that would be unfair, now that I'm looking at the correct part of the rules.

It's still done before defense tokens are spent, so the only thing you gain would be knowing what you already rolled.

He said waiting to see if I should sacrifice shields or not was unfair, because I would just wait to see if my first roll was good enough to warrant giving up shields to destroy a ship or not.

So to him I was saving shields if the initial roll was really bad.

Edited by olafpkyou
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Yes I believe you can do it after you roll the dice. If you look under Modifying Dice, adding dice is considered modifying dice.

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Yes I believe you can do it after you roll the dice. If you look under Modifying Dice, adding dice is considered modifying dice.

Sure enough! There is a section for modifying dice. Derp. Yeah, it totally says you can add dice when "modifying dice". So I guess case close. ;)

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You add dice after the normal atack. Dominator is pretty situational, not only it costs 12 points but also drains shields quikcly.