The Best Around

By knew_b33, in UFS General Discussion

I usually am persistant and annoying about asking what's best and what's all going on for the groups of UFS, but this isn't one of those 'updating things'

I am wanting to know from ourselves what are the best cards from the groups

Character
Action
Asset
Attack
Foundation

They don't all have to be connected from one to the other however, examples would be wondrous to hear from players for their reasons.

I believe the best character is Algol for definitly both his abilities to draw cards after anything. Pitch hand and redraw it all or just play around the entire turn to draw and cycle down a card (unfortunately at random).

Best action ... a tie between Frantic Search, drop two draw three. Compared to Overconfidence where you draw for the amount of non-blocks in your hand after hitting.

Asset I'll go hands down on with Devil Gene. Nothing your opponent can really do about your attacks now.

Attack Paul's Ultimate... 'nough said

Foundation... I'm gonna go on and say Open Road... if that's what it's called. With, what I've seen, characters are being used again as blocks and six control again and if you want that made then go for it on top of your deck. Also I've comboed it with Researching the Past to recur those six controls for attacks.

Wow, you get props for acknowledging Open Road's rigging of your checks =)

Character
-Jin Kazama. He's simply too reliable, and with Kazuya's support, can tutor characters at will. He can potentially turn 1 by going second, F with Jin, Unnatural Grace-Crushing Embrace-Midnight Launcher-Knight Breaker

Action
-Not sure, but Destruction in His Wake is definitely going to see lots of play. The Combo F ought to be enough to slow the opponent's turn to kill them next turn.

Asset
-Path of the Master. Everybody knows why I feel this way.

Attack
-Knight Breaker. Insanely reliable killswitch with 2 top tier symbols

Foundation
-Stand Off, the other card I want to see banned.

Characther: Astrid, and her promo stacker. starter astrid is insanly good on her own, and even better if you stack with the promo.

Attack: Well Execution rites is alot of fun so going for that one, and Pommel smash

Action: Hunger For Souls or The Paul action that let's you draw equal to non blocks..

Asset: Eiserne Drossel, Free speed is free..

Foundation: Paying Respect to your ancestors, damage pump is ok but it is also great for quick board set up

Character: On paper I'm going with Astrid as well, her damage pump is ridiculous and her ability to play her ridiculously huge attacks on her opponent's turn (while optionally adding Stun with First Rite or Pommel Smash) is just too good.

Action: It's a short list of things to even consider... Destruction, Dual Wielding, Soul Wave, Proficient Sniper. Hunger for Souls, uhh... Destruction gets the nod from me.

Asset: Path of the Master.

Attack: Knight Breaker is far from insanely reliable... 3spd high is cake to block. It's still mad good, but I think Dragon's Flame might beat it. That's reliability, and it's worth putting a mite of speed pump in your deck to make it 'unblockable'

Foundation: The Man Behind the Mask, because I'm a sucker for 0diffs with insane effects.

MarcoPulleaux said:

Wow, you get props for acknowledging Open Road's rigging of your checks =)

Character
-Jin Kazama. He's simply too reliable, and with Kazuya's support, can tutor characters at will. He can potentially turn 1 by going second, F with Jin, Unnatural Grace-Crushing Embrace-Midnight Launcher-Knight Breaker

Action
-Not sure, but Destruction in His Wake is definitely going to see lots of play. The Combo F ought to be enough to slow the opponent's turn to kill them next turn.

Asset
-Path of the Master. Everybody knows why I feel this way.

Attack
-Knight Breaker. Insanely reliable killswitch with 2 top tier symbols

Foundation
-Stand Off, the other card I want to see banned.

Me having like, the only functioning jin deck on the planet, I assure you, he is really good, but he is not the king of the crop. Astrid still eats him up like she does everyone else not named Rashotep.

MY list.

Char - Astrid and Rashotep tie. Astrid beats up on everything but Rashotep and really limits what even has a chance against her. Rasho can consistantly beat astrid and can hang around with just about everyone else.

Actions

Going with The Devil Within, compeltely shuts certain decks down, all while sporting a nice 5 check and 1 mid block.

Asset

IT is really hard to call this. POTM is the obvious one, but I actually think Hilde's Weapon, glimmfereadua and shizzlefratz or whatever is the best asset in the game right now. 2/5 with a good block and Speed Pump+Card Draw??? It is a really crazy card, with throws it is basically unstoppable but even without them it is amazing.

Attack

If we go Char only. It is Twilight Embrace, Period, not even debateable. Away from Char only I think Knight Breaker is the best, but Menuette Dance is a close second.

Foundation

Stand Off - The only thing keeping 7 handsizers competitive right now as far as im concerned. Allows decks that want to setup to slow the game down, and in multiple copies late game, basically pull the game to a screeching halt. Also Cursed Blood is like, a little stupid in the block, but whateva

well the way I found the way to use Open Road was on my second turn of the release event when I had a Christie in hand and an Open Road available... 1+1=6?

if we wanted to say character only stuff then definitly my favorite attack is Algol's Combo Attack. It's a little difficult to get the combo... for me some odd reason ... but once it's there after Forming with Algol and then using Body of Souls to scoop back a previously used Algol Combo then there's a lot of hurt comin'.

I'm too lazy to look up Path of the Master... and what's The Devil Within?

Character: Tira, Astrid, 'tep, Hilde, Lu Chen, King...these all are way too close in my mind to pick a single contender.

Action: Hunger for Souls

Asset: Path of the Master. Tower of Remembrance - Encounter, Jimmy Kimmel get honorable mentions.

Attack: Shadow Flare. Lion Slayer gets a nod, as do Menuett, Breaker, and Dragon FRAAAAAAME

Foundation: Stand Off and Man Behind the Mask tie here. Feast of Souls, All Life is Prey, Intimidating Presence also get a big nod.

MegaGeese said:

Character: Tira, Astrid, 'tep, Hilde, Lu Chen, King...these all are way too close in my mind to pick a single contender.

Action: Hunger for Souls

Asset: Path of the Master. Tower of Remembrance - Encounter, Jimmy Kimmel get honorable mentions.

Attack: Shadow Flare. Lion Slayer gets a nod, as do Menuett, Breaker, and Dragon FRAAAAAAME

Foundation: Stand Off and Man Behind the Mask tie here. Feast of Souls, All Life is Prey, Intimidating Presence also get a big nod.

how 'bout we find a way to fuse all those characters together or all those foundations too.

Fusion dance?

Polymerization isn't tournament legal =/

MegaGeese said:

Fusion dance?

Polymerization isn't tournament legal =/

Is Lu Chen that good right now? He was what...like 4 reversals?

I think he has definate potential...but not until more reversals get printed

Smazzurco said:

Is Lu Chen that good right now? He was what...like 4 reversals?

I think he has definate potential...but not until more reversals get printed

His first response to snap a card from opponents hand is quite good :S messes around alot with both their cardpool AND their hand, manage to grab their nice combo attack and their turn is over?

Also the foundations that clog your opponents card pool by blocking.. turn ending indeed

reversals doing dmg is much better than clogging their card pool :( and 4 reversals is quite enough to beat people down. (esp with chi disrupter)

I agree, I'd rather just do damage with a reversal rather than focusing on an ability to muck them up.

though if it's innevitable to have them hit with a reversal then I'd go all out on the abilities, just one thing comes first always.

failed2k said:

Me having like, the only functioning jin deck on the planet, I assure you, he is really good, but he is not the king of the crop. Astrid still eats him up like she does everyone else not named Rashotep.

i have four jins as well and he is a monster. i think he's def 2nd or 3rd best. rashotep and astrid are def up there. rashotep in my opinion matches up the best across the board. astrid and jin are just right behind. jin can beat rashotep better than most.

my new number one after i get him built all the way and tesed will be kazuya, his ability is just too strong. jin can beat him it seems if he has enough dudes stacked.

i agree with the rest of your list. the devil within will be awesome against stun decks.

character: astrid, rashotep, hilde, and jin. they are all really close in power. i would give astrid the slight edge.

action: hunger for souls

asset: potm. path of the master pumps your attacks damage +1 for every resource symbol in your card pool. so if you have 3 attacks in your card pool, it's plus 9 dmg (usually. Are there any 4 or 2 symbol attacks in b4?)

foundation: standoff is good. so are a lot of other foundations. because i can't think of anything different i'm gonna go with standoff.

attack: pommel smash. hands down.

Character: Rashotep. King is more agressive but Rash has the control needed in newfs

Asset: Yimrfang. It gives you the potential to blow up foundations with your throws. It combos with so much stuff its not even funny!

Action: Switching weapon styles for what it does is crazy.

Foundation: Master of Magic. There are characters that don't need momentum to do what they do. Turning effective attacks into foundations is useful.

darklogos said:

Character: Rashotep. King is more agressive but Rash has the control needed in newfs

Asset: Yimrfang. It gives you the potential to blow up foundations with your throws. It combos with so much stuff its not even funny!

Action: Switching weapon styles for what it does is crazy.

Foundation: Master of Magic. There are characters that don't need momentum to do what they do. Turning effective attacks into foundations is useful.

forgot an attack budd-eh

Tifer said:

MegaGeese said:

Fusion dance?

Polymerization isn't tournament legal =/

I don't even know what to say to this Wakeen..


On Lu Chen: yes, this is me tooting my own horn, but I don't care - he's obviously not BAD, given that he made top 8 at a regional during the block 3 format, Spiral Arrows, Spintas, and all. Maybe it's just me being territorial, since *I'M* the one who played him. Who can say? But yes, Lu Chen is a BEAST. It's too bad that final podcast didn't make it up, or you'd have heard all my thoughts on him. In short, yes, he's a fscking nightmare to go up against, given that he pulls cards from player's hands without activating anti-discard, messes with card pools/combos, throws off progressive, can screw over attack strings by grabbing an attack, can nail blocks/important other cards, AND can then abort turns and prematurely commit foundations in their staging area.

All he needs is a spot of momentum, and I guarantee that you won't ever question Uncle Grandfather/Dumbledore ever again.

Character : Sure, Astrid rocks, but we've got a lot of competitive AND fun characters around now. I still need to get a Nightmare though (we're out of starters), but he's also among the best.

Action : Umm... What a choice! Hunger for Souls, Dual Wielding, Berserker Rage, Destruction in his Wake...

Asset : Path the Master when you have some '-_- Otherwise, quite like Gianzende Nova und Frischer Himmel, and Eiserne Drossel. Haven't seen many others yet.

Foundation : Umm... I have yet to get my hands on a Stand-Off, so it's NOT in my list. Love Financial Troubles, though... Honorable Mention to Lu Chen's nifty "Know When to Talk...", or "Alright, you've got 3 face down cards in your card pool. Wut? Progressive Difficulty? Too bad mate!" XD

Attack : First Rite and Shadow Flare combo, Pommel Smash, Wheel Kick (I love Stun 3 :P ), AND... Razor's Bite! Honestly, a 4 speed low attack which enables you to know your next checks? In the same symbols as Researching the Past? Quite a nasty little thing there, and sets up an amazing number of combo shenanigans if you look around at the cards in the set...

Nekuro said:

Razor's Bite! Honestly, a 4 speed low attack which enables you to know your next checks? In the same symbols as Researching the Past? Quite a nasty little thing there, and sets up an amazing number of combo shenanigans if you look around at the cards in the set...

Shhh.... My Algol deck seriously abuses this tech. After my pre-releases this weekend I will post up what I think are the 'best around', I think everyone is providing some really nifty responses ^^

- dut

dutpotd said:

Nekuro said:

Razor's Bite! Honestly, a 4 speed low attack which enables you to know your next checks? In the same symbols as Researching the Past? Quite a nasty little thing there, and sets up an amazing number of combo shenanigans if you look around at the cards in the set...

Shhh.... My Algol deck seriously abuses this tech. After my pre-releases this weekend I will post up what I think are the 'best around', I think everyone is providing some really nifty responses ^^

- dut

YA an other algol player!

can't wait to see your thoughts on the best around.

Algol Chaos is a nice one, but heck! Do I need a block!

And recently, Enemies now Friends has given a new meaning to damage reduction and damage pump in Astrid... Use it on your first attack along with any other redux you can get your hands on, E with Astrid for damage and speed pump, then play a nasty little low attack or something as a finisher... *drools*

Character: Jin Kazama is really fun, and dangerous. Heihachi is another Aggro beast, but Jin is my favorite.

Action: Destruction in his Wake

Asset: Reavers Ax or Drossel, though Kings Mask and Tekken Forces get an honorable mention.

Attack: Shadow Flare for me. Spinning Demon is fun too. Najm is really nice as well in a good Algol deck. Try him off of void, he does wacky things with Nina support. Wipe the Floor has potential, too.

Foundation: Stand Off is good, as is Paid to Protect. All Life is Prey is a great common. F-ing Troubles is good, though as an Algol player, I get to shut it down fairly well. Need to Destroy is an interesting utility card that could be abused (Multiple 11 FotA?).

-Tinman

Nekuro said:

Algol Chaos is a nice one, but heck! Do I need a block!

And recently, Enemies now Friends has given a new meaning to damage reduction and damage pump in Hilde ... Use it on your first attack along with any other redux you can get your hands on, E with Astrid for damage and speed pump, then play a nasty little low attack or something as a finisher... *drools*

Fixed.