Path of the Master - Thoughts

By Ryken2, in UFS General Discussion

Bloodrunstrue said:

My only gripes with the card are acessability ( FFG as per usual, dropped the ball on that one.) and the Infinity symbol although it makes sense to have it on this card.

I do not live in iether Europe or America (New Zealand in fact) and I still have a playset. So do 3 other players in my play group. This was provided by FFG without asking us to attend an event. 2K-3K miles from an event and we have promos. What accessibility problem?

Duckman said:

I do not live in iether Europe or America (New Zealand in fact) and I still have a playset. So do 3 other players in my play group. This was provided by FFG without asking us to attend an event. 2K-3K miles from an event and we have promos. What accessibility problem?

Which is not something they'll do for just about anyone, by the way.

Duckman said:

Bloodrunstrue said:

My only gripes with the card are acessability ( FFG as per usual, dropped the ball on that one.) and the Infinity symbol although it makes sense to have it on this card.

I do not live in iether Europe or America (New Zealand in fact) and I still have a playset. So do 3 other players in my play group. This was provided by FFG without asking us to attend an event. 2K-3K miles from an event and we have promos. What accessibility problem?

FFG gave you guys copies of the card? Really?

I believe the only people in atlanta who have copies are ben shoemaker and myself/generalreaction but I could be wrong. Just because we have them doesn't mean we can't acknowledge a distribution problem in that no one else in our area has any kind of access to them. The only way for a new player to get their hands on them is through trading, and its not like anyone has extras. Maybe if ffg could stick some copies in prize support for regional events and the pro tour, they would still get the whole idea of "go to a big event to get this fancy card", but make it more accessible for those of us who don't have the money to fly several hundred miles to an event that only happened once.

Of course, if FFG is just giving these things away without asking to attend an event, why don't more people have them? FFG hasn't "provided" our play group with any copies.

Makingsenseofus said:

Duckman said:

Bloodrunstrue said:

My only gripes with the card are acessability ( FFG as per usual, dropped the ball on that one.) and the Infinity symbol although it makes sense to have it on this card.

I do not live in iether Europe or America (New Zealand in fact) and I still have a playset. So do 3 other players in my play group. This was provided by FFG without asking us to attend an event. 2K-3K miles from an event and we have promos. What accessibility problem?

FFG gave you guys copies of the card? Really?

I believe the only people in atlanta who have copies are ben shoemaker and myself/generalreaction but I could be wrong. Just because we have them doesn't mean we can't acknowledge a distribution problem in that no one else in our area has any kind of access to them. The only way for a new player to get their hands on them is through trading, and its not like anyone has extras. Maybe if ffg could stick some copies in prize support for regional events and the pro tour , they would still get the whole idea of "go to a big event to get this fancy card", but make it more accessible for those of us who don't have the money to fly several hundred miles to an event that only happened once.

Of course, if FFG is just giving these things away without asking to attend an event, why don't more people have them? FFG hasn't "provided" our play group with any copies.

uh hard to do when they have no copies. winners of the events got all extra copies. also New Zeland is on the other side of the world so probibally over a grand USD to travel vs local travel costs of $500 CDN.

griffinman01 said:

Antigoth said:

Plus, with regards to the 100 mile radius comment I made. I've been to other play groups and they don't have them either. Those other play groups have been to other playgroups with no luck. Makes me wish I DID live in Singapore. Apparently that's what we're expected to do to get these cards because nobody in the LA area has them.

Well I personally have 4 with 7 more on the way.... so thats not exactly true

they really are not that hard to get ahold of. I traded some character exclusive UR for them, yeah you have to give a lil more but its definatley not impossible.

To be completely honest if Im not Ivy or King I dont even use PotM. Christie can make use of it sure but I still dont think shes cery viable.

Any other character has other options and huge damage pumps in the forms of attacks and foundations

A few pieces of information to add to the debate on accessibility.

Tuesday won the UK event, and therefore has a large number of this card that I'm sure he's be happy to trade, as do numerous other players over here.

The UK event had a number of players from other countries (primarily France) who attended in order to get the cards. We also had a number of people redeeming patches on others' behalf, people who put in the effort to get it.

If you weren't willing to take part in the whole "cooperative redemption" process that was going on (and which was fairly well documented at the time) then you're effectively saying that there's NOBODY on these forums that you trust who went to this event. Is that the case, or are you just making excuses for being disorganised?

If you really want copies and can't/won't get them any other way, I have 9 sat in my trade folder that I can't give away right now because everyone I know has a full set. PM me, I'm sure we can come to an arrangement.

As far as the power level of the card goes: powerful, yes; broken, no; ban-worthy, no. Just my 2c.

Besides, given some of the other stuff FFG weren't willing to ban I really can't see this getting the hammer no matter how much people complain.

Basically reposting this but.

IF YOU NEED PATH OF THE MASTERS WE HAVE HUNDREDS FOR TRADE.

HUNDREDS.

AS IN A TON.

drewkasa. Trade Forum, we are NOT asking a arm and a leg for them. Offer us useful block 4 stuff, Profit.

Seriously, that simple, honest to god if I see one more "I can't get them!" or "People can't get them!" post I'm going to explode. Get off your lazy butts and buy some **** stamps and actually INTERACT WITH OTHER PLAYERS.

MY.

GOD.

Heck, at the US tourney, the winner (Jon Herr) had something like 600+ of the silly things. I doubt any of the big winners are going to charge to much for them. It seems kind of odd to claim that you just cant get them.

As is, if you were so outrageously paranoid about the patches that you couldnt get into the various 'Send us your patches!' trades going on, I have no idea how you manage to operate on the internet at all. *BTW Antigoth, thanks again to your group helping me turn in some extra patches. My players appreciated it!*

dshaffer said:

*BTW Antigoth, thanks again to your group helping me turn in some extra patches. My players appreciated it!*

Glad we could help!

failed2k said:

Basically reposting this but.

IF YOU NEED PATH OF THE MASTERS WE HAVE HUNDREDS FOR TRADE.

HUNDREDS.

AS IN A TON.

drewkasa. Trade Forum, we are NOT asking a arm and a leg for them. Offer us useful block 4 stuff, Profit.

Seriously, that simple, honest to god if I see one more "I can't get them!" or "People can't get them!" post I'm going to explode. Get off your lazy butts and buy some **** stamps and actually INTERACT WITH OTHER PLAYERS.

MY.

GOD.

No offense to you or anyone, but many people don't trust trading online without a guarantee of some sort.

It's slightly offense calling people lazy when they have bad experiences with forum trading or some other such thing.

Just saying.

ChaosChild said:

If you weren't willing to take part in the whole "cooperative redemption" process that was going on (and which was fairly well documented at the time) then you're effectively saying that there's NOBODY on these forums that you trust who went to this event. Is that the case, or are you just making excuses for being disorganised?

Hell, the only reason I didn't get mine is that the people I entrusted to go decided not to go instead.

And, by the way... where the **** were you guys when I was protesting the distribution method of this thing a year before it happened? Or did you just now realize that it screwed you and want people to feel sorry for you?

failed2k said:

Seriously, that simple, honest to god if I see one more "I can't get them!" or "People can't get them!" post I'm going to explode. Get off your lazy butts and buy some **** stamps and actually INTERACT WITH OTHER PLAYERS.

MY.

GOD.

Got mine from trading as well. Gave away my precious Ira-Spintas, Lord of the Makais and two of each Chester's Backings and Blood Runs True for these and other cards.

...what? This was way before Worlds lol BUT the point is that you need to give in order to get good things, and that's always the case.

Ryken said:

No offense to you or anyone, but many people don't trust trading online without a guarantee of some sort.

It's slightly offense calling people lazy when they have bad experiences with forum trading or some other such thing.

Just saying.

We cannot trust a World Champion (Drewkasa - Singles & Teams / Failed2k - Teams), or national Champ (Jon Herr) - because they might "Screw you over" despite their numerous refences from trading here online, their Ebay references, or the fact that if they screw people over, they won't be able to trade their cards online, and they will get lynched at any of the shows they travel to across North America?! Folks like Jeremy, Andrew, and Jon (The North American folks with the cards) have more incentive to ensure that trades go through then others do, just because they need to keep that market place open.

I understand being concerned about trading online. I've personally had more problems with UFS deals then with any other CCG I've played, but there are still some folks you can trust. I mean if you don't trust a player to trade - go buy them off of CSI, or Turtle Terror on Ebay - They'll only cost you $9.99

failed2k said:

Basically reposting this but.

IF YOU NEED PATH OF THE MASTERS WE HAVE HUNDREDS FOR TRADE.

HUNDREDS.

AS IN A TON.

drewkasa. Trade Forum, we are NOT asking a arm and a leg for them. Offer us useful block 4 stuff, Profit.

Seriously, that simple, honest to god if I see one more "I can't get them!" or "People can't get them!" post I'm going to explode. Get off your lazy butts and buy some **** stamps and actually INTERACT WITH OTHER PLAYERS.

MY.

GOD.

Quoting for Truth.

failed2k said:

Basically reposting this but.

IF YOU NEED PATH OF THE MASTERS WE HAVE HUNDREDS FOR TRADE.

HUNDREDS.

AS IN A TON.

drewkasa. Trade Forum, we are NOT asking a arm and a leg for them. Offer us useful block 4 stuff, Profit.

Seriously, that simple, honest to god if I see one more "I can't get them!" or "People can't get them!" post I'm going to explode. Get off your lazy butts and buy some **** stamps and actually INTERACT WITH OTHER PLAYERS.

MY.

GOD.

Straight from the Drewkasa Thread:

Please don't ask me to check lists my wants that are listed is all I need

Wants

English Gundam War cards

3x menuett dance

xx Paid to protect

xx Shadowar

3x Bloodline rebellion

So Yeah....Unless you have Gundam cards, hard to get URs, or Promos Then you are **** out of luck.

If you prefer to spend cash, there is some on thE Bay site for a reasonable amount of cash.

Ryken said:

failed2k said:

Basically reposting this but.

IF YOU NEED PATH OF THE MASTERS WE HAVE HUNDREDS FOR TRADE.

HUNDREDS.

AS IN A TON.

drewkasa. Trade Forum, we are NOT asking a arm and a leg for them. Offer us useful block 4 stuff, Profit.

Seriously, that simple, honest to god if I see one more "I can't get them!" or "People can't get them!" post I'm going to explode. Get off your lazy butts and buy some **** stamps and actually INTERACT WITH OTHER PLAYERS.

MY.

GOD.

No offense to you or anyone, but many people don't trust trading online without a guarantee of some sort.

It's slightly offense calling people lazy when they have bad experiences with forum trading or some other such thing.

Just saying.

I've been trading within the UFS community for over 2 years now, and have NEVER had a problem! Perhaps others have had mishaps when trading outside the UFS Community and for other CCG's? IDK, i can't comment on that.

But, seriously, it irks me to no end when someone, like failed2k posts a definitely answer to your so-called lack of distribution problem, and then people whimp out and continue to whine because they don't want to utilize said answer to their problem.

No offense, man, but grow a pair, lick some stamps and start trading!! UFS doesn an EXCELLENT job of keeping Trade Refs current and accurate. I've never traded with anyone with a negative rating, and i've never gotten burned...go figure.

Sol Badguy said:

failed2k said:

Basically reposting this but.

IF YOU NEED PATH OF THE MASTERS WE HAVE HUNDREDS FOR TRADE.

HUNDREDS.

AS IN A TON.

drewkasa. Trade Forum, we are NOT asking a arm and a leg for them. Offer us useful block 4 stuff, Profit.

Seriously, that simple, honest to god if I see one more "I can't get them!" or "People can't get them!" post I'm going to explode. Get off your lazy butts and buy some **** stamps and actually INTERACT WITH OTHER PLAYERS.

MY.

GOD.

Straight from the Drewkasa Thread:

Please don't ask me to check lists my wants that are listed is all I need

Wants

English Gundam War cards

3x menuett dance

xx Paid to protect

xx Shadowar

3x Bloodline rebellion

So Yeah....Unless you have Gundam cards, hard to get URs, or Promos Then you are **** out of luck.

We JUST got our tekken stuff Wednesday, Give Andrew a few days to update once we figure out what we are actually going to need, and that list is going to Exponentially increase, I actually know for a fact were going to need.

Hammer of the Gods

Gut Drill

Blazing Fist

Destruction in his wake

Paul's Gi

The Ultimate Team

and many more, plus I have a list of our updated old set 12 "needs" which is about 10 cards deep.

So yeah, Just keep checking back on the list and stuff we need that you'll have will pop up, and Path of the masters will appear in your mailbox, promise.

RockStar said:

Ryken said:

failed2k said:

Basically reposting this but.

IF YOU NEED PATH OF THE MASTERS WE HAVE HUNDREDS FOR TRADE.

HUNDREDS.

AS IN A TON.

drewkasa. Trade Forum, we are NOT asking a arm and a leg for them. Offer us useful block 4 stuff, Profit.

Seriously, that simple, honest to god if I see one more "I can't get them!" or "People can't get them!" post I'm going to explode. Get off your lazy butts and buy some **** stamps and actually INTERACT WITH OTHER PLAYERS.

MY.

GOD.

No offense to you or anyone, but many people don't trust trading online without a guarantee of some sort.

It's slightly offense calling people lazy when they have bad experiences with forum trading or some other such thing.

Just saying.

I've been trading within the UFS community for over 2 years now, and have NEVER had a problem! Perhaps others have had mishaps when trading outside the UFS Community and for other CCG's? IDK, i can't comment on that.

But, seriously, it irks me to no end when someone, like failed2k posts a definitely answer to your so-called lack of distribution problem, and then people whimp out and continue to whine because they don't want to utilize said answer to their problem.

No offense, man, but grow a pair, lick some stamps and start trading!! UFS doesn an EXCELLENT job of keeping Trade Refs current and accurate. I've never traded with anyone with a negative rating, and i've never gotten burned...go figure.

No, that makes tons of sense. I mean, jezzus, I never thought of that. You're saying that all I need to do is grow a pair and lick stamps and THAT will get the desired results of getting the cards I want? WOW!!

You obviously missed the point of the post. Forum Trading isn't a guaranteed form of getting what you need. And being a jackass and saying 'grow a pair' makes me wanna trade there even less.

Just because you've had the ideal trade experience doesn't mean everyone else has. And just because you've never traded with someone with a negative rating doesn't mean that ONE TIME won't be the time you get burned.

And when it does? Well...go figure.

I'd just like to point out that burnings do happen, and as such I haven't traded on the internet since the dread Phoenix whoever saga that went on for like two months. So with all due respect to the person who told the other guy to "grow a pair," piss off.

On the actual topic, Path of the Master is a real good damage pump, unfortunatly there aren't too too many decks that can truley utilize her. In fact the only real ones I can think of would be Tira (using Vibrator and Minuette Dance) and Ivy (with all her pokes). The draw is nifty, but how many character specific cards are there in block 4?

B-Rad said:

The draw is nifty, but how many character specific cards are there in block 4?

It's Character Symbol abilities, meaning the SSS loop, some Tekken and ShadoWar stuff.

failed2k said:

We JUST got our tekken stuff Wednesday, Give Andrew a few days to update once we figure out what we are actually going to need, and that list is going to Exponentially increase, I actually know for a fact were going to need.

Hammer of the Gods

Gut Drill

Blazing Fist

Destruction in his wake

Paul's Gi

The Ultimate Team

and many more, plus I have a list of our updated old set 12 "needs" which is about 10 cards deep.

So yeah, Just keep checking back on the list and stuff we need that you'll have will pop up, and Path of the masters will appear in your mailbox, promise.

Do you have the list posted somewhere? I wouldn't mind trying to get a playset so our playgroup has at least one to use.