As someone who grew up with Star Wars, starting with the original movie? (I was 5-years-old at the time.) I have never seen the franchise as being only about Jedi, lightsabers, and the Force.

The Han Solo trilogy, the Lando Calrissian trilogy, the Marvel Comics series, the "Droids" cartoon, and the old WEG RPG made it clear to me, as a kid, that Star Wars was a combination of western, samurai epic, space opera, WWII dogfight, and - yes - religious philosophy and Arthurian legend.

Unfortunately, because most every video game, novel, comicbook, and film since the 90s has focused on Jedi? That's all the younger generation believes qualifies...

As a much bigger fan of Han and Chewie than Luke, Leia, or Vader? I absolutely adore the EotE setting.

Why are we even still talking about this? If the OP is not a Troll then he is not taking any notice of the many and varied ways people are using to tell him that the system is fine but he may find another system more to his liking.

If the OP is in fact, as is the appearance, a Troll then he has seen that his post has fallen too quiet for his liking so he has poked the ant nest to get things riled up again.

Either way I think that this thread should be allowed to die.

To the OP, in case I am doing you a diservice the best advice I can give is that, as per the advice given in this thread, find a system you like. The WEG D6 system is quite good and is very usable and abusable, alternatively you could try SAGA edition which also has a KOTOR sourcebook if you can find it(it can be quiet expensive on Amazon).

I was thus far giving the guy the benefit of doubt. Then, I found this from 2011:

MEMBER OF THE SWTOR FOUMS: YOU ALL KNOW PROFESSOR WALSH

Plain and simple: He's a Jedi fanatic. A Republic supported and a very unlikable fellow. He's a troll and most of the forum members need him to "Go down" as they would say. This fellow uses fancy words to try and sway the minds of people to join his "Cause" on the repeating cycle of Sith updates rather than Jedi-centric updates.

Yes, this dude is for real: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=258201

Where am I going with this? It would be amusing to see how many people could report him for "Increasingly annoying topic to cause flamingand/or create an unstable thread. He broke the rules and Bioware have gave him warnings, but because he actually emailed them and made a twisted lie about his smaller cousin hacking his profile, they let him through. Is this fair? No. So, everyone who is a member in the SWTOR forum that is NOT in agreement with this fanatical stupidity to the Jedi/lightside/Republic fiction in SWTOR, report Professor Walsh for inconspicious trolling. Thank you, that will be all.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/951199-star-wars-the-old-republic/58018131

I suppose the above post can be written off as just someone else that didn't like him who was completely wrong in doing so. But, it IS showing a track record.

It should perhaps be noted, that the OP hasn't expressed a strong dislike of the system itself - from what I've read anyway. Just the decision to publish a book without his beloved glowstick monks.

I find it humorous that he feels the game is incomplete without Jedi. This was a common complaint back during the EotE beta and core book release. Yet the game line is, by all reports, a rather successful one even though FFG chose to wait on concentrating on the Force. For all his "credentials' it is quite clear that the FFG Star Wars game is successful without concentrating on or having Jedi.

It's too bad he isn't more prolific. Reminds me of my favorite board jester. Every board needs its fool.

To paraphrase the detention cell block officer in E4: "Why are you all talking to this...thing?"

It's a troll. It showed up again as predicted when the thread died. It proceeded to set up and knock down straw men as if countering real arguments. It is only interested in making and defending false assertions, or assertions based on fake ignorance just to goad everyone. It has never asked for actual guidance on how to resolve its "issues", and has ignored all attempts at education.

That quote above from swtor is even more telling: when I was moderator at One Ring (a Lord of the Rings game site) we had a few members who used that feeble excuse..."it wasn't me, it was my irresponsible kid brother".

It's a troll.

I was thus far giving the guy the benefit of doubt. Then, I found this from 2011:

MEMBER OF THE SWTOR FOUMS: YOU ALL KNOW PROFESSOR WALSH

Plain and simple: He's a Jedi fanatic. A Republic supported and a very unlikable fellow. He's a troll and most of the forum members need him to "Go down" as they would say. This fellow uses fancy words to try and sway the minds of people to join his "Cause" on the repeating cycle of Sith updates rather than Jedi-centric updates.

Yes, this dude is for real: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=258201

Where am I going with this? It would be amusing to see how many people could report him for "Increasingly annoying topic to cause flamingand/or create an unstable thread. He broke the rules and Bioware have gave him warnings, but because he actually emailed them and made a twisted lie about his smaller cousin hacking his profile, they let him through. Is this fair? No. So, everyone who is a member in the SWTOR forum that is NOT in agreement with this fanatical stupidity to the Jedi/lightside/Republic fiction in SWTOR, report Professor Walsh for inconspicious trolling. Thank you, that will be all.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/951199-star-wars-the-old-republic/58018131

I suppose the above post can be written off as just someone else that didn't like him who was completely wrong in doing so. But, it IS showing a track record.

I find this a little weird and rather sad. Poor chap.

While I might not agree with "Professor Walsh?" And I do find his opinion somewhat ... well, annoying?

I do believe many of you are displaying a great deal of intolerance, and as someone who has also been called "troll," "douchebag," "child," "idiot," etc. for simply voicing an apparently unpopular opinion? (I believe the first season of "Rebels" failed on many, many levels.) I feel any post that does not simply counter his initial claim/argument is getting way off track and just paints you as exactly the kind of person you seek to avoid.

Simply type your opinions and be done with it. If the topic creator responds, debate him.

Calling him "sad" or "troll" is just counterproductive.

*tosses two cents on the table*

PS - I'm not defending his actions on the SWTOR boards; if BioWare had to get involved, I imagine there was much unpleasantness. But "Professor Walsh"'s posts in this thread have all been focused and civil.

As a much bigger fan of Han and Chewie than Luke, Leia, or Vader? I absolutely adore the EotE setting.

When I was a kid back in '77, we played the hell out of Star Wars on the schoolyard (Heh - RPGs without the game mechanics). Every kid wanted to be the cool guys like Han and Chewie (and eventually Fett) and very very very few wanted to be Luke. Being Luke was the guy who wound up getting picked last for Dodgeball.

... as someone who has also been called "troll," "douchebag," "child," "idiot," etc. for simply voicing an apparently unpopular opinion? (I believe the first season of "Rebels" failed on many, many levels.)

With all due respect (and I do mean that) the reason people called you those things was not because of your opinion on "the first season of Rebels". It was the way in which you chose to voice said dislike and how you antogonised and showed disrespect to everyone that did not agree with it, on top of the fact that your critique of Rebels (to anyone looking at it objectively) would be applicable to all things Star Wars. Don't play the misunderstood role, it is unbecoming.

@Harlock999 (because my quote function isn't working)

I take your point about keeping it civilised and I'm replying because I'm probably among the people you called out. If the quote from the other board is to be believed, then I genuinely feel that HWalsh's behaviour is exactly as I described it - rather sad. I don't know the guy personally, I'm just going off the behaviour. Why go to such lengths to waste other people's time? What's to be gained? Hasn't he got anything more constructive to do? All rhetorical questions, by the way

To paraphrase the detention cell block officer in E4: "Why are you all talking to this...thing?"

It's a troll. It showed up again as predicted when the thread died. It proceeded to set up and knock down straw men as if countering real arguments. It is only interested in making and defending false assertions, or assertions based on fake ignorance just to goad everyone. It has never asked for actual guidance on how to resolve its "issues", and has ignored all attempts at education.

That quote above from swtor is even more telling: when I was moderator at One Ring (a Lord of the Rings game site) we had a few members who used that feeble excuse..."it wasn't me, it was my irresponsible kid brother".

It's a troll.

If all the people who said the OP was a troll had just not replied, this entire thread would consist of the OP's post, a couple of replies from myself and another saying: "sorry - you bought the wrong game. What you want is F&D. But they make a good compliment to each other if that's any consolation". And then it would have fallen rapidly from the first two pages. And if they posted a later reply as they have done, probably neither of us would reply again because we'd said our part.

But what I actually see is six pages of people responding. I get people not thinking it's a troll and replying. I get people thinking it's a troll and not replying. All of you jumping up and down churning out posts saying "troll", I do not get at all. It's like you've never seen the Internet before!

And this is helping how?

When I was a kid back in '77, we played the hell out of Star Wars on the schoolyard (Heh - RPGs without the game mechanics). Every kid wanted to be the cool guys like Han and Chewie (and eventually Fett) and very very very few wanted to be Luke. Being Luke was the guy who wound up getting picked last for Dodgeball.

I was playground-age after Star Wars but pre-Empire, so being Luke was pretty cool because there was a slim chance you might get to kiss whatever girl was playing Princess Leia.

PS - I'm not defending his actions on the SWTOR boards; if BioWare had to get involved, I imagine there was much unpleasantness. But "Professor Walsh"'s posts in this thread have all been focused and civil.

As far as I'm concerned, the first post complaining about a well-known piece of info that is now years old was disingenuous and poisoning the well. Not to mention the ****-measuring he started with people who disagreed with him.

It's like you've never seen the Internet before!

No, it's more like jumping on someone who's annoyed you. By the way, this whole implied "you're all dumb for responding" thing that you've been going on about for pages and pages with references to being new to the internet doesn't make you look clever. If you don't like peoples' response posts, by all means flag 'em or ignore the users. I very much doubt that people on this forum care if they have your stamp of approval on their message or something before they hit post.

It's more the principle that you shouldn't wrestle with pigs - you both get dirty and the pig enjoys it.

There's nothing profound about what I said: a troll is hunting for reaction. When you "jump on someone who's annoyed you" as you put it, then you're giving a troll what they want. In fact, the angrier and more vitriolic your condemnation, the more they're going to think that they've wound you up / justified a persecution complex / whatever. So if you think someone is a troll, ignore them. That's just sound advice on any forum and doesn't have anything to do with my approval or lack.

Star Wars, at the core... Is about Jedi.

Star Wars - Anthologies: Rogue One

Star Wars, at the core... Is about Jedi.

I'm afraid I have just 5 words as direct rebuttal to this statement....

Star Wars - Anthologies: Rogue One

I'll see your Five Words and raise you 17 syllables:

New Star Wars movie:

Plenty of fighter pilots

Narly a Jedi

Of course, the opening ad for Rogue One calls out specifically that the Jedi are gone, so I think that's a weak argument.

Please let this thread die

"Never argue with idiots as they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Heh heh.

So have you guys seen me with Lando?

Did you actually drink the Colt 45? Better yet, did he?

No he did not (although I did offer) - and I had one sip. Holy smokes, that stuff was terrible. It works every time. . . as paint thinner!