I wonder if Peter Cushing would play Star Wars: X-Wing or Star Wars: Armada. My money would be on Armada but he does like smaller tactical scale too.
Grand Moff Tarkin not playing Armada? Preposterous idea! 
I bet he would wear stylish grey uniform while playing it...!
Warmahordes is not cheap in the long run. (Still cheaper the GW though.)
Warmahordes would of been my main game if I had more people playing it. When I got it, my LGS was pretty much 40k and MtG. Then I got into Flames of War, which is very fun especially if you are into WWII stuff.
Both of them are cheaper than GW but that's hardly a lofty goal to shoot for.
That said, they are both about on par with the cost of a FFG game, when you consider what it costs to play a tournament legal list.
The same seems to hold true for games like Infinity, Battletech, or even Malifaux. They all run about the same price. Armada and X-Wing also run about the same price, even though the core set is more you need fewer ships in Armada.
The only really reasonable way to judge the cost of a wargame IMO is the cost per list. How many lists can you make by spending $X? In that I think X-Wing is quite a ways ahead of most other games.
Great point about how many lists you can make by spending $x.
I wonder if Peter Cushing would play Star Wars: X-Wing or Star Wars: Armada. My money would be on Armada but he does like smaller tactical scale too.
Holy crap! Tarkin was a war-gamer!
You have no idea how gleeful that makes me!
I wonder if Peter Cushing would play Star Wars: X-Wing or Star Wars: Armada. My money would be on Armada but he does like smaller tactical scale too.
Holy crap! Tarkin was a war-gamer!
Not only that, but he got his best friend Sir Christopher Lee into it as well.
Now if Grand Moff Tarkin and Count Dooku and playing The Imperial faction, don't you traitorous Rebel holdouts want to rethink your suicidal position?
Since we are on this topic, the most interesting man in the Galaxy (and Middle Earth).
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I wonder if Peter Cushing would play Star Wars: X-Wing or Star Wars: Armada. My money would be on Armada but he does like smaller tactical scale too.
Holy crap! Tarkin was a war-gamer!
Not only that, but he got his best friend Sir Christopher Lee into it as well.
Now if Grand Moff Tarkin and Count Dooku and playing The Imperial faction, don't you traitorous Rebel holdouts want to rethink your suicidal position?
Since we are on this topic, the most interesting man in the Galaxy (and Middle Earth).
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My week. . . has been made so much better after all this. . .
I wonder if Peter Cushing would play Star Wars: X-Wing or Star Wars: Armada. My money would be on Armada but he does like smaller tactical scale too.
Holy crap! Tarkin was a war-gamer!
Not only that, but he got his best friend Sir Christopher Lee into it as well.
Now if Grand Moff Tarkin and Count Dooku and playing The Imperial faction, don't you traitorous Rebel holdouts want to rethink your suicidal position?
Since we are on this topic, the most interesting man in the Galaxy (and Middle Earth).
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Technically, Dooku was supporting the CiS possibly at the behest of Darth Sidious. He did not live long enough to support the empire 
otherwise, thank you for this amazing contribution 
I was debating using the term "proto-Empire" or Sith Empire, but we are all friends here.
Some actors play at being Jedi Knights, Sir Christopher Lee IS a Knight, and has the blood of Charlemagne running through his veins.
to be fair, FFG deserves to be defended (relative to the quality of most game companies, including that particularly notorious one
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While I feel the price is a bit prohibitive (before online discounts), I don't understand why people would want two coresets anyway until we get to a 400 point cap. The cards coming in the Wave 1 expansions are incredible (as is the idea of wave 1 expansions for anyone who wants to purchase select ships) and you can't fit two coresets + expansions worth of capital ships within the 300 point limit.
maybe it's the dice, but I bought the app a long time ago and never looked back (I've got a wild throw)
This. It's not like X-wing, at all, where 3-4 core sets at launch got you enough TIEs for a swarm and as many X-wings as you can fit at 100 points for less than the ships themselves would cost. Two Armada core sets and you're at more TIEs and X-wings than you can actually field at 300 points, which makes 1/4th of any further Wave 1 Fighter expansions you buy pointless(outside of Wedge and the other named TIE), and while you may get mileage out of the extra corvette and Frigate, the odds you'd ever want to field 3 VSD(and you'd probably have to wait till we hit 400 point lists to do it reasonably) seems like it would be pretty low, so the third you'd be getting in Wave 1 for the different cards would pretty much be just for the cards.
Even if the price were lower, I just don't see the value in buying more than one Armada core set.
I think it's funny that a complaint that maybe the prices are a bit too high has turned into arguing about what counts as a wargame.
The trouble with comparing games like that is that what counts as "worth it" is inherently subjective. I don't spend hundreds of dollars on unpainted minis anymore because it wasn't worth it to me personally to sink so many hours into making my soldiers look passable on the table when my opponents always just field gray plastic units. Neither me nor the person who does enjoy painting units are wrong, we just appreciate different things, and so we're drawn to different games.
When y'all decide if Armada is a miniatures game, a wargame, a boardgame or a dice game let me know.
I'll be putting a nuln oil wash on my Nebulon.
Yeah, I don't know what purpose having such distinctions serves. I'm going to compare XWM and Armada to other games that vie for the same time & money in my entertainment schedule, so to speak, and those games are usually called miniature games and/or wargames.
Also, don't forget that Christopher Lee served in WWII and has probably killed a Nazi in hand to hand combat. Apparently his performance of Saruman dying is based on personal experience.
When y'all decide if Armada is a miniatures game, a wargame, a boardgame or a dice game let me know.
I'll be putting a nuln oil wash on my Nebulon.
Nailed it.
to be fair, FFG deserves to be defended (relative to the quality of most game companies, including that particularly notorious one
While I feel the price is a bit prohibitive (before online discounts), I don't understand why people would want two coresets anyway until we get to a 400 point cap. The cards coming in the Wave 1 expansions are incredible (as is the idea of wave 1 expansions for anyone who wants to purchase select ships) and you can't fit two coresets + expansions worth of capital ships within the 300 point limit.
maybe it's the dice, but I bought the app a long time ago and never looked back (I've got a wild throw)
This. It's not like X-wing, at all, where 3-4 core sets at launch got you enough TIEs for a swarm and as many X-wings as you can fit at 100 points for less than the ships themselves would cost. Two Armada core sets and you're at more TIEs and X-wings than you can actually field at 300 points, which makes 1/4th of any further Wave 1 Fighter expansions you buy pointless(outside of Wedge and the other named TIE), and while you may get mileage out of the extra corvette and Frigate, the odds you'd ever want to field 3 VSD(and you'd probably have to wait till we hit 400 point lists to do it reasonably) seems like it would be pretty low, so the third you'd be getting in Wave 1 for the different cards would pretty much be just for the cards.
Even if the price were lower, I just don't see the value in buying more than one Armada core set.
I disagree. I played 40k not for the competitive side of things but for the massive Armageddon battle. Where my hundreds of Gaunt models and such were fun and a blast to use.
In Armada, I might not be able to use ALL my fighters right away but in a no holds bar game. Well I can do just about anything now cant I!
It's an Awsome Game!When y'all decide if Armada is a miniatures game, a wargame, a boardgame or a dice game let me know.
I'll be putting a nuln oil wash on my Nebulon.
Nailed it.
I am debating on what wash I want. . . I am thinking a Secret Weapon Miniatures Armor Wash or something. . .
http://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=54
I would first add a pigment to give the model some age. . . Maybe some Exhaust Black and some Metallic Iron.
http://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=37_19
