Ghoul, Minstrel and special followers - the second

By RedSimon2, in Talisman Rules Questions

Ok, somehow I can't post in this topic I opened myself named "Ghoul, Minstrel and special followers" (really annoying, tried it yesterday and today):

www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp

So I have to open another thread to answer:

Well, I sent the same question to FFG and the answer I received was totally different than the one katana_one gave in the thread linked above (by the way, the answer came from Mr. Goodenough himself):

Some cards and special abilities allow characters to take cards as Followers even if the card type is not actually listed as a Follower. For example, the Minstrel’s special ability allows him to charm Animals into joining him as Followers. A character that has these Followers in his play area treats them as normal Followers in all regards, except he cannot choose to ditch them. All other characters treat these cards as if their text boxes were blank.

Example: A character cannot cast Mesmerism to take one of the Minstrel’s charmed Animals because it is only considered a Follower to the Minstrel, not to any other characters.

If a character is forced to ditch or leave a card that has become a Follower on a space (such as the Cell space in the Dungeon, getting turned into a Toad, or because the character is killed), the Follower must be discarded instead.

I'm glad about it, this IMO makes much more sense. Otherwise a character with strong followers would be like a walking bomb. Imagine what would happen if the Minstrel for example had 5 animals with the same number on their card. and could drop them on a field. It would also mean killing the Ghoul would set revived enemies free (kinda strange if you ask me).

But as the official answer says these are discarded, everything is fine.

i thought the minstrel could only have one animal follower at a time?

Msrushing said:

i thought the minstrel could only have one animal follower at a time?

You can have any number of them, but can only use one animal per battle.

So I was partly right (about not being able to Mesmerize the Ghoul's and Minstrel's special followers), but even then my reasoning was flawed. :)

This is why a FAQ page is long overdue.

Hi Msrushing,

This is a weird answer you got there preocupado.gif

From my knowledge ( as it was stated month's ago)

A minstrel or ghoul can ditch a animal anytime he want.

If he do that, the animal will become a enemie again.( same for ghoul.

This is also happen when he is forced to ditch because he become a toad..

Did FFG change the rules? Mmm

Velhart said:

Hi Msrushing,

This is a weird answer you got there preocupado.gif

From my knowledge ( as it was stated month's ago)

A minstrel or ghoul can ditch a animal anytime he want.

If he do that, the animal will become a enemie again.( same for ghoul.

This is also happen when he is forced to ditch because he become a toad..

Did FFG change the rules? Mmm

Is Dam trying lead us astray? :)

Minstrel used to be limited to just 1 Animal per game, but he was also immune to the Hag. Current char sheet has no limit on the number of Animals he can have, just limits their use.

I see i have guote the wrong member here..( because ms gushing and red simon has the same avatar.) ( well it can happen..)

anyway.. i have contact Jon about it, but i think that we must wait until the faq is done, so we know if this is the true answer...

It can also be a mistake you know...

For now, i still keep the rule that you can ditch the animal anytime etc ( see my other post..)