signal jam and no more CC's in reinforcements??

By Darkflame2, in Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition

so if you have all you CC's on your race sheet you cant be targeted for diplomacyII or signal jam??

wtf is up with that?

For Diplomacy, you would have to remove a CC from your race sheet.

For Action Cards, you are indeed immune.

Relevant reading: TI3:SE rulebook, page 14; TI FAQ, page 7;

Concur with Joram - for Diplomacy specifically, you must remove one. For all other triggers, you are immune.

note that umpapa's real precise and rule quoting answer is not to be found on this forum gui%C3%B1o.gif

Joram is correct.

It is just another case where the rules do not seem to make sense.

The SC can affect you and take a CC off your board if non are available in reinforcements but the AC or PC's are useless against you if nothing is in your reinforcements.

Tawnos76 said:

Joram is correct.

It is just another case where the rules do not seem to make sense.

The SC can affect you and take a CC off your board if non are available in reinforcements but the AC or PC's are useless against you if nothing is in your reinforcements.

I disagree that they "don't make sense". Diplomacy II, for example, was more intended to protect the Diplomacy user than punish the other player(s). Thus, in order to ENSURE that protection, taking one regardless of circumstances makes more sense.

For the AC case, the action is more intended as a punishment to the player. As such, a player who is able to wisely utilize all 16 CCs should be rewarded for it, and not thrown to the wolves.

Thematically, if you care about such things, the Signal Jamming could be spaghetti-sauced by thinking of "no CC in reinforcements" to imply enough planning to implement redundant communications to your little empire, making a single signal jammed during that time of top-notch logistical power useless.

You are immune from Signal Jam but your Skilled Retreat are useless until you spend a CC from your Strategy allocation and you are also barred from doing any Transfer action.

So that immunity from Signal Jamming come at a price that you should think of before acquiring your 16th CCs.

Excellent point, Ugluk - having all 16 CCs on your race sheet is generally quite a bad thing. Being immune to Signal Jamming is probably the only upside.