Making foundations suck does not mean gray wars ends

By vermillian2, in UFS General Discussion

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Bloodrunstrue said:

B-Rad said:

Bloodrunstrue said:

Attacks are still required to win, and making 4 attack decks to OTK is a nigh impossible task, even in astrid.

I beg to differ here good sir. Depending on what comes out in Tekken control wise, I may be running a 4 attack Astrid deck off stapling the promo in order to commit all my weapon assets. To top it off a lot of her useful support (Relentless and Envoy to the Queen) have weapon on them, and that coupled with up to 20 weapon assets (a bit steep I know, but I'm still learning b4), and multiple Dual Wieldings (it's good in folks other than Hilde guys :P ) could me hella huge Cleaves.

Good to see someone is in the same boat as me man. indeed Astrid can OTK if built correctly, as can Hilde and ragnar ( notice how all these charcters are really top tier?)

The point being is OTK in one shot form is possible when backed by grey, not good.

Its still kinda early to say someone is or isnt top tier though.

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This isn't control wars. Come back when they reprint Experienced Combatant.

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My Fire James Hata** rips through grey walls.

It's nice to see my term NEWFS has been popularized. Finally, something I do is actually appreciated as opposed to bashed.

As far as grey wars goes, I HATE Torn Hero. Stun is very prominent, and while that may make Torn Hero seem balanced, Torn Hero can commit ANYTHING, and cannot otherwise be negated since it's a static.

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I agree somewhat -- Torn Hero really smells like the old silver bullet style answers like Curse Broken. Great stats, virtually unstoppable ability with no activation cost, Earth symbol...

However, you don't need Stun to win (or at least, I should hope you don't...), and there are certainly enough decks that don't play Stun (anything playing symbols from Yi Shan, Astrid/Paul or Zi Mei; and Earth decks with Tiger Claw can still beat it, too).

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Wafflecopter said:

However, you don't need Stun to win (or at least, I should hope you don't...), and there are certainly enough decks that don't play Stun (anything playing symbols from Yi Shan, Astrid/Paul or Zi Mei; and Earth decks with Tiger Claw can still beat it, too).

Honestly, I fail to care about Torn Hero. If I stun you, I'm killing you this turn, period. Go ahead and commit anything in my staging.

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I see you're not playing Astrid or Hilde then :b

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Homme Chapeau said:

Wafflecopter said:

However, you don't need Stun to win (or at least, I should hope you don't...), and there are certainly enough decks that don't play Stun (anything playing symbols from Yi Shan, Astrid/Paul or Zi Mei; and Earth decks with Tiger Claw can still beat it, too).

Honestly, I fail to care about Torn Hero. If I stun you, I'm killing you this turn, period. Go ahead and commit anything in my staging.

That's the way I view it...

...except I run Rashotep, so I'm blanking the f--k out of your Torn Heros, then Stunning their blank asses with C®ock Grasp and Close Throw.

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MarcoPulleaux said:

Homme Chapeau said:

Wafflecopter said:

However, you don't need Stun to win (or at least, I should hope you don't...), and there are certainly enough decks that don't play Stun (anything playing symbols from Yi Shan, Astrid/Paul or Zi Mei; and Earth decks with Tiger Claw can still beat it, too).

Honestly, I fail to care about Torn Hero. If I stun you, I'm killing you this turn, period. Go ahead and commit anything in my staging.

That's the way I view it...

...except I run Rashotep, so I'm blanking the f--k out of your Torn Heros, then Stunning their blank asses with C®ock Grasp and Close Throw.

the way i see it ...is torn hero is needed right now as stun is probably more prominent then any other keyword in the game right now every deck ive played against with the exception of maybe astrid has some sort of stun

So when your playing against a cassie deck or agaisnt that tira weapon, even robes of the grandmaster....your not blocking since all your foundations are commited and speed is up and ridiculous