Our Resposibility

By lius, in UFS General Discussion

Antigoth is possibly my hero for his collection, just imagine how many binders he has... or the one big binder

anyway, for those complaining about 'wasting' money on a cardgame just buy singles at coolstuffinc or this other website called trollandtoad. the easiest cards you can buy all in one go are definitly the commons and rares plus you get discounted based on a certain amount you are purchasing. my first paycheck will going to that for SoulCalibur and ShadoWar since commons are **** near a quarter each and that a dollar each set and rares are typically the same if not a quarter more.

I absoloutly agree with the guy about the communal playgroup. in madison, WI that is exactly how it is... ShadowDragon, if ever so kindly, will go out of her way to trade, or give, the cards she has no purpose for lightly to others... that's how I practically started my play of this game. for those that are hoarding their cards, yeah that's human, but at least you can 'allow' yourself be a swindle on yourself to help others get progressively better or just show them slowly how a 'good' deck should look like with play-by-play.

All my cards now are useless; FACT. All my cards are heading for the chopblock; FALSE. Why? Because I will use them for what I've posted in another thread "proxy decks and for those I dislike... coasters" and for the people on here that know me decently... or ... um, nevermind. the cards I hate will be typically the ones with Evil on them. True that the cards can be sold right away for some chump change to get a start on the new stack of cards... that HAVE been out for x months... at least you guys should've started on the 5-points anyway so that when the rotation does hit, and it was INNEVITABLE (big word, it hurts) you would already be set out to kick ass again.

ARMed_PIrate said:

info on prize to replace regional winners' dinner was promised but not delivered.

Binder of Tekken set. This has been told.

kraazivaan said:

The point about rotation removing people's legal cards is as follows. When rotation occurs, it should be at a point where people have had sufficient time to get the cards that are going to be legal , and at a point where a sizeable pool of legal cards will still be around. I understand why this rotation happened, but the fact is that the pool of legal cards is much smaller right now than it should be.

It's been 4 months.

guitalex2008 said:

ARMed_PIrate said:

info on prize to replace regional winners' dinner was promised but not delivered.

Binder of Tekken set. This has been told.

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oh what I would... almost give for that

"Legacy is not supported"
"Mini-Block was not supported"

Both false statements.

1) The tournament support for Legacy and Mini-block were both false statements prior to worlds. They were both provided prize support before worlds. At worlds they were both provided prize support. After worlds they will continue to be provided prize support.

2) If you didn't show up at worlds / nationals, then the "extra" support that is given to standard really doesn't matter. Because unless you're willing to travel that prize support is irrelevant.

3) Steve has already openly stated that prize support will be sent in a kit to the stores. How you choose to assign it to your various tournaments in your various formats will be up to you.

"This smacks of what happened to Raw Deal at the end."

God no. What happened to Raw Deal at the end was deliberate and planned out far in advance. If I had more time, I'd show how inaccurate that statement is. Sadly, I don't have time to write a multi-page essay on the death of Raw Deal.

knew_b33 - One binder for each set, each card page holds 3 different cards, one card in each row, 3 on the front, one on the back.

Promos get their own binder up until the start of the 5 points, where the 5 point promos were housed with everything else 5 point. (Which may or may not change along the Tekken set).

Re: Fight Night - "They Took my Money!" <Said like "They took our Jobs" from the South Park Episode>

Uh guys - these kits were designed to help stimulate and kick start play groups into playing tournaments. The fact that you got a box of boosters, and a box of starters, and crap ton of promos for $50, which would normally cost upwards of $200 - seriously - quit complaining. Those cards were destined for legacy right away. There are players out there who still want the three characters in the fight night kit. I'm sure you can get $50 worth of stuff for them in trade of new 5-point cards if you're willing to work for it.

Antigoth said:

knew_b33 - One binder for each set, each card page holds 3 different cards, one card in each row, 3 on the front, one on the back.

Promos get their own binder up until the start of the 5 points, where the 5 point promos were housed with everything else 5 point. (Which may or may not change along the Tekken set).

I just want to see a picture lol... I know of only one of other person with possibly that many cards too

knew_b33 said:

Antigoth said:

knew_b33 - One binder for each set, each card page holds 3 different cards, one card in each row, 3 on the front, one on the back.

Promos get their own binder up until the start of the 5 points, where the 5 point promos were housed with everything else 5 point. (Which may or may not change along the Tekken set).

I just want to see a picture lol... I know of only one of other person with possibly that many cards too

Lol,Thanks?

It's not an exciting picture really. It's just two shelves of binders (Legacy only on one shelf, current block on another). Line up a bunch of binders, take a booster wraper, slide it in the spine of a few of the binders and your good to go. If the Tekken Binders for Regionals winners looks anything like the SCIV/SW binders we got for Top cut at worlds this year, those will look really sweet.

guitalex2008 said:

kraazivaan said:

The point about rotation removing people's legal cards is as follows. When rotation occurs, it should be at a point where people have had sufficient time to get the cards that are going to be legal , and at a point where a sizeable pool of legal cards will still be around. I understand why this rotation happened, but the fact is that the pool of legal cards is much smaller right now than it should be.

It's been 4 months.

I will be more clear. It is not just about the time necessary for the players to get the cards; I completely agree that I could have been buying SCIV and ShadoWar if I felt like it. But it is also about the time necessary for the company to come out with cards (and more specifically, characters) that I want to play. This is something that there has not been enough time for, as only two 5-point sets have been released.

Antigoth said:

"This smacks of what happened to Raw Deal at the end."

God no. What happened to Raw Deal at the end was deliberate and planned out far in advance. If I had more time, I'd show how inaccurate that statement is. Sadly, I don't have time to write a multi-page essay on the death of Raw Deal.

I did say that it was not an exact match in terms of what happened. It is more that when I see companies making changes above a certain magnitude, and especially ones that have an impact on the financial investment players have made or are expect to make, I tend to think about what that can do to a game.

Incidentally, I kind of wish that someone _would_ do a write-up on what happened to Raw, as there is nothing on the Wikipedia article about Raw as to what killed it. It would be useful information for other game companies to have, so they could avoid making the same mistakes.

To the best of my knowledge (which admitedly is just my playgroup of like 15 people), after they stupidly simplified the game and got rid of a LOT of the control elements Comic Images stopped supporting it as playgroups started dying. Though don't quote me, I could be horribly wrong.

Antigoth said:

"Legacy is not supported"
"Mini-Block was not supported"

Both false statements.

If you want to be technical about it, mini-block was never really supported because it didn't have much time in the limelight before becoming Standard.

kraazivaan said:

Incidentally, I kind of wish that someone _would_ do a write-up on what happened to Raw, as there is nothing on the Wikipedia article about Raw as to what killed it. It would be useful information for other game companies to have, so they could avoid making the same mistakes.

I'm fairly certain I've gone into detail on it previously on my site:

http://www.teamcanadaonline.net

The home of Raw Deal, and the virtual sets that are still "keeping the game alive"

However writing a definitive piece I should probably do one of these days. Essentially the ball started rolling hard at SS3.

B-Rad said:

To the best of my knowledge (which admitedly is just my playgroup of like 15 people), after they stupidly simplified the game and got rid of a LOT of the control elements Comic Images stopped supporting it as playgroups started dying. Though don't quote me, I could be horribly wrong.

If you were listening to Pink Floyd's The Wall, this would be Another Brick in the wall part 3.

Really short version, but otherwise accurate.

Dude I was right? Ha!