Hey Jason, this is Chris the scout for Amarillo, TX. We have generally anywhere from 8-12 players I can round up. You know you have my support on any endeavor that this comes out to.

I did enjoy BaCon (even though the were 4 Legacy players...) and would like to see something further about this idea. I do see the point in some of the other poster's ideas, however, about maybe considering the size and scope of this. I know that there have been announced both City and Store Championships that are being supported by the company, so getting additional support for this from FFG at this time may be diffcult with the crunch ongoing (hopefully Tekken 6 will alleviate this somewhat as the general concensus is that "many" players are looking forward to this set and the balance the new rotation has enabled). Have you talked to Hata or the others there about this? I know you have a line into them. Keep me posted.

P.S. Have you heard any updates from the Abilene crew on their Regional in October?

As much as I think this is a good idea, I'm also a realist and know that this alas won't happen, or if it does it will not be supported by FFG in any way shape or form.

They barley support this game as is with their lack of advertising, interaction with people, blatant ignoring (appairantly) of other people, or general condisending outlook towards the players (if the World's reports and that video Aslum posted are any indication). There is no way they are going to put up actual stuff, when they feel that a 30 cent piece of cardboard is MORE than enough support for a game.

I haven't heard about the Abaline regional. I know they were wanting to do one. If you find out let me know, I would love to go play!

Okay everyone. I see alot of sceptisism and alot of hope from all of you. First I would like to tell you that I never intended on getting money from FFG to support these events. It would be nice, but I have yet to see them support UFS in this kind of way. They did not even have demo games going on at worlds, which, for a game that is trying to survive, makes absolutely no sense to me. FFG had the largest vending area at GenCon and not one person was advertizing or demoing UFS. That just makes me sad. They could have asked us players to do it and we would have volunteered for free. Anyway, you are all concerned wether or not I can manage something like this. I have run tons of events before, conventions, tournemnts etc. I have been in the gaming business since I was 13 years old. I had my own re-tail store when I was 15, and yes I am only 23 now. I just love this stuff. I do not care if I take a loss on this. I have done it before, because I know that making this move will help in the future and bring in more profits later. I have mentioned before that James and Steve know that I have these plans, they have been too busy at GenCon and preparing for GenCon to really pay much attention to me, which is why I decided to post here. I'm sure that James will see this eventually, and I will get his feed back. I have even considered running this as an indipendent tournament cuircut if I get absolutely no support from FFG, but I don't see that being the case. Basically, I just want this game to live healthily. The prizes for these games do not have to come from FFG's pocket or from mine. We call it sponsorship. People love free advertising, and even at our convention Best Buy, Game Stop, and Hastings were all interested in supplying gaming consels and video games for our players to play on. The game needs an overhall, and there is so much we can do to make that happen. The first step is to take all of your old 4 point shurikens and give them to friends and show them how to play. Play at school, play in front of people, and they will ask you what it is, then show them that it is the greatest card game you have ever played. This helps build a comunity.

Now for my ideas of the tournement cuircut. I plan on charging $25 per entry. this is kind of expensive but not too bad, since magic and other games charge this much. We will also have other events for $2-$5 to play during that weekend. I plan on holding these at hotels to begin with, so people traveling from out of town get a group discount, and we have a place to play. It is usually about 500 a day for their meeting room spaces (and those are fairly large). if we get 40 players that will cover the venue, and the prizes will come from me, and maybe FFG. If it takes off, we will get more people next year, and so on. I am a volunteer, I don't do this for profits, I just want to get enough players to make this work. Anyone who wants to help, I greatly appreciate it, also please contact me directly at jascocollectables@yahoo.com or on my aim at jascosan34. we will not start the events until we are completely ready for them and if we in the end cannot make it work, I will let you all know, and we will come up with something else.

Talk to me guys (and girls), help me get this off the ground.

Jason

I barely have a playerbase of 3-6, and can usually not make my friday events...

between that and playtesting and wanting to start running things for Warhammer Invasion, I am NOT the person you are looking for.

Thing about sponserships is that they are tied to businesses that people buy from. I would tell you that you need to get into the online selling of ufs cards like coolstuff and then do this. So there is a benifit to your philantropy.

Thats really sad that there was no UFS demoing being done at Gencon...I don't see why the don't support the game more. I mean they have had sets completely sell out so I know they have to make some decent money off of this game.

Interesting idea.

I like the idea of some higher-end prizes, most notably the plane ticket to Worlds. I want to go to Worlds badly, but haven't been able too yet (mostly for time reasons, secondarily for money reasons). A ticket there would definitely convince me to take time off. I might actually be willing to play competitively for that.

I like game consoles as prizes, because they tie into UFS directly (fighting games), and they're valuable.

I don't like cash as a prize, or anything more valuable than a game console. At that point (as someone posted above) people start to see it as an alternate revenue source (rightly or not), and then you get a variety of players that we currently don't have in UFS (but seem to show up everywhere else): cheaters, douchebags, and a--holes. I think the semi-casual prize support UFS currently gives out is one of the reasons for the A+ community.

Good luck with this.

For reference, Gameology's playgroup here is probably around 16 to 20 total individuals, but we only get 10 per tournament on average.

I never mentioned giving cash prizes, and many states probably wont allow it, since it can be a form of gambling. But I do need to know what state/city you and your play group are from.

I think you are confused about HOW MANY games FFG has (as far as why no demo of UFS at Gencon).

Trust me, we were in the TCG hall and promoting it anytime someone looked at me. We had demo decks. We were demo-ing. FFG just DOES NOT always have room for a bajillion different tables to demo on, cause like... they already HAD a bajillion tables.

Detroit Area Michigan has a consistant 6-8, but runs as deep as 15 michigan players for larger events locally. Also. Ohio is a short hop/skip/jump away.

The midwest in general is very crowded with players and conventions, then everyone else is kind of all over the place, New York has a big competitve playgroup, Canada has a few playgroups scattered, Texas has a few playgroups, and Florida/California both use to have reasonably large playgroups that I have no idea whether they still exist or not. There is lots of players in other places, but they tend to be scattered all around the states.

We have 4-8(when we're lucky) players in Oshawa (hr away from Toronto. Toronto has I think 2 players maybe a couple more idk. Ottawa has at least 3 that ive met. montreal has at least 8 i think

My group in east va is about 10 strong and im on board too let me kno how i can help Aim ryuhoshi13 msn gaia_the_d_champion@msn.com

Seraphiel13 said:

where are you guys in VA? and yeah theres about 6-8 of us in Blacksburg VA there are 3-4 of us that would love to see something like this i know that i would anything to see this game take off

Link said:

Depends on the alignment of the planets and Satan - we can get 4 players much like we can get 16.

Link said:

We (Ottawa) have anywhere from 4-8 on a regular basis. However only 3 of us travel or play competitively the rest are very casual players.

I appreciate everyones help so far! Jeremy from Florida is interested in combining their regional with a Pro Tour event in October. So we may (key word MAY) have our first Pro Tour Tournament in October (11th and 12th). We just got in touch so we will see if FFG is ready to incorperate this into their plans yet.

Scouts, Please keep sending me your numbers, or if your comunity does not have a scout and you are interested in getting an event in your area, just post your player count so we can get a rough estimate on people comming to each event.

Thanks!

Thanks for the help Seraphiel13!

Lafayette, LA scout

16 players

Dayton, OH

We have 9 players total - 3 casual, 3 fairly new, and 3 with character cards.

What do you get for the $25? (Other than tournament entry)

Where would it be?

How many days will the tournament be?

As nice as all of this wishful thinking sounds, it really is just that. I like your ideas, but I doubt FFG will do anything to support you, they don't seem like that kind of company. Good luck with this endeavor though, if it actually happens, well... then I will be proven wrong. 25 is a bit high for a standard tournament, pre-releases at my local store are 20.

FFG is not sponsoring the prize support for this as far as I know. We might get normal prize support from them (maybe) and the $25 is to cover the prize support for the players (such as plane tickets and other cool stuff) that we will supply at each event. I charged $25 for our regional here in Lubbock and we had a great show up, as well as great prizes. Not to mention it was in a convention center for a convention I hosted (BaCon). We do not have locations yet but 3 stores have already responded to me from Fl, VA, and NY showing interest in the events. All we have to have from FFG is their permission, as mentioned before the prize support is from us, and hopefully everyone entering will get something cool, not just the top 16.

Jason

Oh yeah the one prize that we do hope FFG agrees on is the first round By for our winners at worlds. That is being nagotiated at the moment.

jasco games said:

It'd make for a real "Pro Tour" if that's the case. Hope it happens, but as usual, keep something for people who will not be able to go at Worlds ever.

Can anyone give me some insight as to when 4 good dates would be to hold these events each year? Try not to get in the way of Holidays, Super Bowls and other things like that.

failed2k said:

Our group is currently eight strong (we just lost one to school, possibly a second). I think Austin is about that size (or close?), dunno how many you Lubbock lot have, and there's one in Abilene, too, as well as San Antonio.