How very dare you good sir astroth is ta AWESOME i have made an astroth deck which can kill turn 3 and his enhance gets silly i have got plus 10 out of it once

LordAggro - Hey, I like Yi Shan too! However, he just looks sad boasting two amazing symbols (Earth, Life) and having little to show for it in comparison to others.

Good ideas for Earth Shan? Well, depends on how confident you are that your attacks will go through. If you want fail safe face-up momentum, then 4x Embrace and 4x Flooded Nile. If you want to abuse the Hell out of Shan, then try...

4x Tiger
4x Sweeping Leg
3x Thunder
3x either Yi Shan's Thunder Shoryuken (UR attack), or Yi Shan's Dragon Punch

Waffle, Arch came up with the idea. I believe you do not use the E. Rather, you Dual Wielding it (12 speed, 0 damage, -12 to damage), Hilde E (11 speed, -1 damage, -13 Damage -1 Speed total), Shadowar E Commit (11 speed, -3 damage, -15 damage -1 speed), then Hilde E Commit for a 13 high 27 damage, and if that isn't enough, you've got Fire's boosts and Jimmy Kimmel to win games.

Ivy...

Hey, like I said, she works MUCH better in new block than old block.

Just a question for those defending her...

How viable do you think she'll be IF Path of the Master is banned (or otherwise changed so that the damage pump is minimal)?

MarcoPulleaux said:

ivy doesnt need path of the master at all the amount of times i was killed by ivy using astroth cause she has gone off turn 2 or 3 with out path of the master. you also have to remember the lkack of blocks in block 4.

James Hata absolutely dominates this new format, hands down. That's why I main him, and turn everything low. No low-zone attacks with Breaker.

Yeah, Death Hata is stupid good. His free R is going to matter much, and his E is great due to the already crappy blocks.

Also, John Herr is pretty good. Off All, he can do some cool stuff with Researching the Past and Controller of Souls. Off Evil he has some stupid aggroness with the typical Knight Breaker spamnanigans.

You guys are missing out on J.J.

Free damage reduct or a Tag Along ability and 7hs to boot.... instant top tier

MarcoPulleaux said:

And Omar can blank nearly everything that would be problematic to him with one No Forgiveness! in the discard pile with all the throws he can run off of Earth. Not to mention if he's building he can grab anything he checks in the discard pile to help him kill all that much faster the next turn. (Enraged Golem, Hungry for Battle, Unstoppable Warrior, Brooding, Berserker Rage, The Dragon of Mt. Lao, Tien Lei, Iron Thunder)

Omar could have some potential off All if he can get in a lot of attacks to use with his E.

So far I'm thinking Chaos Omar.

Earth IMO has better characters. Off Chaos he has access to plenty of Stun cards, and that aside, he makes plenty of use with either the Rites or Fury of the Ancients.

NintendoMan said:

What does JJ do? I've never seen the card.

You could see one here => cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll

I would like to see Omar's card too !

Astaroth is totally sideboard tech for how amazingly stupid Jin is.

Dams said:

WAIT... you are selling JJ's card on Ebay expressly against his wishes?

His instructions were - for anyone to get his card they had to get him from him, with the promise not to trade it or sell it.

You sir, are a jerk.

Especially since he's giving his card away for Free to anyone who asks.

NintendoMan - I never recieved your envelope, but I haven't been home in some time due to Uni. I'll make sure to send off your copy of the card when I get home if you drop me an e-mail with your address to [email protected] . The same goes for rulemonkey and Scott Mence & friends. I believe those are the only outstanding people I owe cards to.

While I'm flattered that I fetch that much at auction, I made it very clear while sending my character cards out FOR FREE that profit was not to be made from them. So you can thank this French gentleman for the end of the distribution of my character cards.

I'm not really much for emo-fits, but people using my personal gifts to them (and these cards are extremely personal to me, I might add) to make money? Go **** yourself to be honest.

Thanks for jumping on him, Antigoth, but forget it. It was bound to happen eventually - it was just a matter of time. Human nature and all that.

Meh, and yes I realise that this will inevitably benefiit the seller by raising the price of the character card, but it equally punishes the idiots who were bidding on it rather than e-mailing me for a free copy. But I guess you were all bidding on that signed Athena (it's not even the good version, haha), right? Rofl.

Zzasikar said:

I kept forgetting to get that email you asked for written ( I'm terrrible at writing things about myself so its hard to start)

Zzasikar said:

Well Crap I never knew you wee even giving away your cards for free until last week and I had not gotten a Chance to send an Email yet...

That sucks...

Ryken said:

Lol omar is always hungry for battle.

Dams said:

Thank you for giving every single one of us French speakers a bad name. No, really - What you did there was probably more damaging to our reputation than anything I ever did, and coming from me, that's a lot.

I'd slowclap, but that'd still involve granting you any sort of merit for your action.

Homme Chapeau said:

LOL @ irony, right?

But seriously, to the eBay seller: it doesn't cost you much to take the listing down, and it would put a lot of people's minds at ease, including JJ who is quite obviously upset. I'm sure he'd be glad to see you retracted the listing, and while it would be difficult to regain the same trust, I'm sure it will show you are a good person, and that you didn't mean any harm and I'm sure JJ would forgive the mishap eventually.

What are the abilities on JJ i can't tell =/ Cool art style though.

I believe JJ is...

*JJ*
7HS 18V
Evil/Order/Void

First F Commit: Until the beginning of your next turn, attacks get -2 damage when played.

R Commit, commit 2 foundations: After your opponent plays an ability printed on their character, cancel that ability's effects. The canceled ability may not be played until the end of their turn.

Wow, rough control character

guitalex2008 said:

If I was in any mind to laugh, I would savor it like one savors a fine wine.

MarcoPulleaux said:

Pretty much, but it's worth noting that his first ability is minimum 1.

That being said, he works really well with HIlde's support. Especially nobility of the Wolfe.

Of course getting a JJ now that someone had to go ruin it for the rest of us..........

But yeah, all the champ card are really good in the new format.

Umigame