Maybe someone hasn't gotten the news about rotation? Hard to fathom, but a possibility. Reanimated jankness is pretty obvious, but then again, Reanimated with just about any card balanced around single usage gets pretty crazy.

ShadowDragon said:

LordAggro said:

You'd still be bankin' on havin' higher vitality then your opponent, unless you had some kinda life gain...which, I guess Legacy would have.

But B4? No. I'm with Dani on this, I got nothing.

...

I love Mini-Wheats too, but not as much as this guy.

If he's doing this in legacy..there's MANY answers to stopping it. He clearly said there wasn't any ways to stop it. So I'm awaiting this..unstoppable burn madness deck.

TripsEX said:

Trips wins.

You're right about needing more vit that your opponent, and you can only bounce it once per attack anyway. Victor is not really the kind of guy to bust out an attack rush, but hey, weirder suggestions have worked in this game. But I think it's safe to say we can ignore the troll, there's nothing to be had in B4 (which has no lifegain, no bounce, and little recursion) as far as Tablet janksauce is concerned. Good night.

I second Ryken, and award Trips the thread.

I already told you guys, I am not going to spoil the deck for you guys. If you think you're so good at the game where you can figure everything out, then when you do I don't doubt you won't be running.

Oh, and TripsEX very funny. I can already see that you're a bad player just trying to get a joke in.

0/10 would not read again.

Except for the Mini-Wheats shoop - that was good.

I find it particularly funny that people go "ZOMG A TROLL!" - Guys, you're just killing our fun here by pointing out that fact. Let him try and get even bigger rises!

Like many people here, I am unsure if the original poster was being serious, but after looking at the two cards he mentioned, he has something of a point. Kazuya nukes opponents' board, then drops Tablet. With no foundations out on their turn, the opponent is unlikely to play an attack, since it will likely fail, thus costing them life. Even on their next turn, they are not going to have many foundations out, and a bad check on an attack played to avoid loss of life could commit them out, making them lose even more tempo. By this point, this asset has cost the opponent 4 life, thus making it comparable to a medium strength unblockable attack.

kraazivaan said:

All right, I'll bite co-conspirator.

AND THEN YOU COMBINE IT WITH TOWER OF REMEMBERANCE - ENCOUNTER!

Yeah, we figured that one out already, and Seeking Treasure will bring it back to you IN CASE you check it.

PROBLEM THE ONE :
Kazuya can only blow himself up 3 times per game (sans cycle), and will RfG the Tablet/ToR:E by blowing himself up - oops I don't get it back, and my Seeking Treasure goes bye-bye too!

PROBLEM THE TWO :
Have to play Chaos/Death (Chaos for the Treasure, Death for the vit loss effects), which isn't a great spread in B4 (Zhao Daiyu/Kazuya and that's it, and Zhao's cards are so-so for people who are not her, exception of the Scroll of the Abyss)

PROBLEM THE THREE :
You still get facerolled in three turns by most aggro decks in Standard because you have to sacrifice so much for a bad combo.

Well, for what it's worth, Kazuya's support does include ways to get his characters back from the discard and straight to his staging area (I played against Steve Horvath's Jin/Kazuya deck at GenCon). I don't remember specific card stats though...

HEY GUYS

CHECK OUT THIS INCREDIBLE COMBO I DEVELOPED WITH UKYO'S APPLE

WAIT ON SECOND THOUGHT, IT'S SO DEGENERATE AND COMPLETELY UNSTOPPABLE THAT WE DON'T WANT YOU TO RUIN YOUR LOCAL META WITH IT

(plus we're jerks and want our super-secret tech to win the coolest prize in gaming )

Tower of remembrance is not bad here either, although I had not originally considered it. I would expect a good kazuya player to be rather conservative with his foundations, and not spamming them. If your opponent is playing as many foundations as they can, tower can punish them for that. And if they are not playing a lot of foundations, that will slow their game down considerably.

I don't mean to say that Tower / Tablet make Kazuya win instantly, but they are fine additions to his deck.

OH MY GOD BROKEN COMBO DOES THREE WHOLE DAMAGE

/yawn

Wafflecopter said:

Ukyo's Apple is broken how don't you guys get that

Luckily for the current environment, it has a three-pointed shuriken rather than 5. The game would be in serious trouble if that was playable now.

Wafflecopter said:

Ok then now lets explain this awesome combo, kazuya plays the mini wheat (go trips love that name for it) they lose 2 then erm erm erm erm erm erm erm oh dear lord noooo i dont believe it is going to destroy the world and everyone in it. or not you might as well play it with some one who plays lost of despo abilities LIKE RAGNARRRRR

I want to play this card with victor and reanimated :[

kraazivaan said:

You didn't, but OP did.

It's a fine strategy sure, however if you play that here in B4 Standard you'll find that it'll backfire. Everyone has ways to toss an attack first thing in the round. It gets even worse when it's Target X's Nightmare deck, where he is likely to toss the Knight Breaker combo Turn 1.

I got it

step 1- Play Kazuya's character card

step 2- blow up the staging area

step 3- play Tablet of Gilgamesh

step 4- ????

step 5- PROFIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

frehocc said:

Oh MY Geee I am so amazed by this, I mean I actually didn't get the combo till now!!

step 4 is get milk for your mini-wheats. obvs.

I fail to see any degeneracy from this card.... Pairing it with Reanimated (as has been posted already) seems to be the only credible threat......