Once we all start getting the expansions and stuff who's going to REALLY play 180 point builds?
I feel like 300 is going to be the minimum
And I drool about the day where I plan to find a nice room, clear out any and all furniture and do possibly a 1200-1800 point massive fleet battle of the ages

Once we all start getting the expansions and stuff who's going to REALLY play 180 point builds?

I feel like 300 is going to be the minimum

And I drool about the day where I plan to find a nice room, clear out any and all furniture and do possibly a 1200-1800 point massive fleet battle of the ages

One of the reasons I long for a bigger home.

Once we all start getting the expansions and stuff who's going to REALLY play 180 point builds?

I feel like 300 is going to be the minimum

And I drool about the day where I plan to find a nice room, clear out any and all furniture and do possibly a 1200-1800 point massive fleet battle of the ages

One of the reasons I long for a bigger home.

I'm tempted to go back to my old Highschool when I have enough expansions for this battle and just use the old theater stage for the battle lol

Yeah I'm already (especially with wave 2 coming) finding 300 a bit limiting for what I want to use,

I cannot wait for wave 2-era epic games with my mates. 2 players a side, 500+ a side.

Yup. Already tired of 180 point battles. The game screams for larger engagements.

I want to find a way to combine it with X-Wing, Imperial Assault, and even the Star Wars RPGs (Age of Rebellion most likely)
And make a multipart epic battle with several layers.... oh god if I were to find a way to do that it might just need a full weekend to play....
Okay new goal in a couple of years when a lot of expansions are out and I have the money and ability to do so
Find a place for the "game" to be played
Have several friends help
Record the entire weekend of the greatest game ever played

Edit: But I digress... I feel like 600-1200 point games are going to be the ones played more often, while the 300 point games are going to take the intro games place

I feel like 300 will be well suited for nearly most games. Should be do-able in 2 hours?

I doubt you'll see many low-point games once people have more than a single core set (barring teaching games, of course). Just like X-Wing, Armada is designed with a sort of "floor" for points values. While the basic game mechanics still function (important for teaching games) the higher-level interactions start to break down below a certain point.

The Victory-class Star Destroyer is the perfect example of this. It's the toughest ship currently available by a significant margin. That toughness is balanced in a 300-point game, since the enemy can converge multiple ships against it to overwhelm its defense tokens* and Engineering points with concentrated fire, while mitigating the effect of the other Imperial ships through maneuvering. However, with only a single core set, it is very difficult for the Alliance to overcome that kind of survivability within the round limit, especially since their maneuvering advantage is reduced.

When playing with the core set, in any game in which a ship is destroyed, the Alliance is almost required to kill the Vic to win. Destroying all of the Empire's TIE squadrons will barely make up for the loss of the CR-90, and if they take even one X-Wing squadron with them the balance is still in the Empire's favor.

A comparison to X-Wing would be a 60-point game where the Rebels have Chewbacca with Millennium Falcon, C-3P0, and Determination and a Tala Squadron Pilot while the Imperials have a Royal Guard Pilot with Push the Limit, a Gamma Squadron Pilot with Cluster Missiles, and an Academy Pilot. While the points are even, the Falcon's survivability is exaggerated by the small scale of the game.

*As a side note; I'm very impressed with the elegance of the defense token mechanic in balancing and flavoring the different ships as well as encouraging coordinated fleet actions rather than individual duels.

180 is too low. I think real fun starts at 400.

The official point value is 400 pts when wave 2 is released.

I've already shelved the game just not fun @ 180 points.

I've played a couple 300 point games they are fun but lack variety right now.

My wife is gonna hate Star Wars soon. Not only am I anticipating 500-800+ games of Armada; Our group is salivating for 800-1000+ Epic X-Wing battles when the Raider hits. This is getting bad in a good way. Haha.

Well for the record FFG suggests 180 when you only have the Core Set. After wave 1 hits 300 is the set point level and when wave 2 hits it will be 400 from then on for a standard game.

So if 180 feels too constricting it is becuase the game is to be played at 400 points but due to lack of options they are building the point level gradually.

If I wanted a 180 point game, I'd play X-Wing. Armada is about fleets, or at least big ships.

That's not knocking X-Wing though, but if I wanted to throw down with 3-4 "ships" per game, it's X-Wing, and I still like it. But armada, I'm throwing down with as many ships as I can.

but oh gods the time.

and then you lose a game. And that's just. 3 hours to LOSE? I'd throw a sith rage.

but oh gods the time.

and then you lose a game. And that's just. 3 hours to LOSE? I'd throw a sith rage.

3 hours of good fun though

and besides. from the way this game feels already you're going to know if you won or lost after the first 2 rounds of engagement. as one side will likely have the upper hand and crush the remainder of your fleet in the coming round or 2

positioning and timing is going to be HUGE in large scale battles. 400 point games are going to feel just right, where you can field just enough without going overboard and the game could potentially swing in anyone's favor round to round

I've played several 300 point games and they are SO much better - a lot more going on with harder and more tactical decisions to make.

I've since played a few 180 point games when introducing others to joys of Armada and I definitely notice the difference (but I make the sacrifice for the cause).

If you've not done 300 pts yet, lend/borrow ships with your fellow core set owners and try it - once you do you won't go back

Once we all start getting the expansions and stuff who's going to REALLY play 180 point builds?

I feel like 300 is going to be the minimum

And I drool about the day where I plan to find a nice room, clear out any and all furniture and do possibly a 1200-1800 point massive fleet battle of the ages

I only see myself doing 180 pt games is if I'm teaching someone how to play or if, through upgrade cards from expansions, a highly competitive game comes about from 180 point builds due to certain upgrades for both sides that shine at 180 pts but could be diluted in a 3-400 point environment.

I'll do a couple of 180pt starter games but, I've waited so long for my suff, I'll want to dive right into 700...er, 300 pt games.

at this point a buddy of mine and i are just playing 300pt games between 2 cores.

also i kinda wanna get a 2000pt vs 2000pt game going at like templecon get 3x18 and 5 v 5 with 400pts each. follow character restrictions and only one flagship.

It will be impressive.....most impressive