Again. Buy them on e-bay if they are that important. I dunno. It seems like an idea.

Cheaper for me to buy them off eBay then it is to go to the closest tournament.

The same goes for a friend of mine, he works the nightshift, so whenever the local gamestore holds a magic prerelease or gameday tournament at 9 o clock in the morning he can never make it.

Casual or hardcore players that are kind and generous should compete in as many tourneys as they like. These players typically pass on rewards they've already won if they win them again. The loot spreads, people are happy, everyone gets a piece of the action, and the general happy reputation of X-wing players would spread.

If someone was hitting up 5 or 6 venues in his general area in an attempt to win prizes just to sell them...well, that kind of undercuts the nature of the game.

I'm still unsure what the specific "problem" is... Is it the fact that players sell the prizes on eBay? Or is it the fact that people win prizes at multiple tournaments?

• Scenario 1) A player often plays at his LGS (both casual game days/nights), has a good attitude, consistently places Top 2 at tournaments but... he sells all the prizes on eBay. Is this a problem?
  • What if he's poor and this is a way to finance future game purchases?
  • What if he then spends the money on Magic cards?
  • What if he needs the money for his mother's healthcare?
• Scenario 2) A player often plays at his LGS (both casual game days/nights), has a good attitude, consistently places Top 2 at tournaments but... he also goes to other stores when they have tournaments with prizes. He keeps all his prizes for himself, and enjoys looking at his collection of promos in his game room. Is this a problem?
  • What if he only goes to other stores within a 15 minute drive?
  • What if he goes to other stores within a 5 hour drive?

I have a feeling some people just had a bad experience with a player showing up and being obnoxious, and said player happened to be from out of time and win some prizes.

@Klutz

That is well put.

I will now add something that might end up being more snotty that I first thought, haha, but I'm bored eating lunch with no coffee in my mug.

Do other competitive games have issues like this? Is it really a bad thing if a good player, who likely just wants to play more X Wing, attends 7 Store Champs, places 1st on more than one occasion, puts 6 of his 7 sets of Focus tokens on eBay, and mounts all his plaques onto his wall to signify his (or her) proficiency at the particular interest he or she has invested so much time into? It kind of sounds like people want the prizes without trying to get the prizes, and instead of blaming their own lack of skill (including meta list building proficiency as a skill), they are blaming the winning player for having the skills to win, which is weird to me.

Especially because keeping up with competition does not cost extra money, like it does in games like Magic, where you'd be crazy to take card B over the basically same, better version, card A, but card A costs $20, and you need 4 copies of it, and card B costs $1, and did I mention Card A will be moved out if Standard play in 6 months?. This is certainly one time I can understand being upset about super competitive players coming in, because you have financial restrictions (either self induced or income restricted).

But X Wing is much easier to mass all the necessary cards, and if you ARE part of a local group, it is easy to share and borrow. People choosing to not take part of the competitive meta, at a competitive event, shouldn't expect to always be competitive, and probably shouldn't hate on people who want to be competitive.

So I'm not saying these people are wrong for making these choices, but rather that grumbling about it is probably not the correct choice. If you choose to dislike bacon (is that even possible?), I better not see you talking badly about people who like bacon!

I also decided that this thread is a likely moot point. From the pages I have read, there are actually no people participating in this discussion who are actually upset about "Prize Snipers" and who actually grumble and complain in the local store to the point of not attending competitive events. All we have are supporters for either side, most of which have not had a first hand issue with this, including myself, and it seems that both groups understand both sides of the argument, and how it could be offensive, there is just a disagreement as to whether it is a correct/acceptable opinion. Drats! That means all my comments, thoughts, metaphors, examples, were probably for no reason!!

How is this thread still going?

Because we really want to see the XG-1 and ARC170.

edit: To those concerned - this was entirely meant as a deadpan throwaway comment.

Pretty sure we are just using this to raise our post count while we wait for new x wing news.

Pretty sure we are just using this to raise our post count while we wait for new x wing news.

I think inflating your post count with meaningless banter is unsportsmanlike and the TO should DQ you.

Posts without any "likes" shouldn't count towards your post count.

Just like tournament wins with OP, broken, boring, unoriginal, play-to-win net-lists shouldn't count as wins.

#trolltotheface

Sometimes those new faces are locals that don't come to the local meet up due to work or personal life. I know quite a few that do that.

Again. Buy them on e-bay if they are that important. I dunno. It seems like an idea.

Cheaper for me to buy them off eBay then it is to go to the closest tournament.

Those combined hit home for me. My preferred lgs doesn't have a game night on the one weeknight I currently could be available, so I play when I can where I can - mostly at home with the gf. When it comes to tournaments; each is a huge time commitment that, as long as I can get the prizes on ebay, isn't necessarily a required time investment to obtain the prizes.

I enjoy the competition when I attend (and I went 4-2 with a Kenkirk/Vessery list last time which put me in the middle of the pack at the giant 46 person SC), but I'm definitely not a familiar face when I do go. Spending 12 hours competing at a store, or spending the day with family/friends, is a personal choice and I don't have to sacrifice the potential for tournament prizes when I choose not to attend because of the people that sell the prizes online. I'm glad for that.

I say keep winning more than you can use so you can sell them to people like me at reasonable prices.

It kind of sounds like people want the prizes without trying to get the prizes, and instead of blaming their own lack of skill (including meta list building proficiency as a skill), they are blaming the winning player for having the skills to win, which is weird to me.

This.

I think this statement sums this thread up nicely.