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TBH That looks like Dark Heresy stuff for a playtest group or preview stuff for GW staff with quickstart characters and weapon cards so that people can easily get started. Nothing in that pic indicates to me board game.

Kaihlik

to be more precise,

I suppose it could be a fan production, but wow

Kaihlik said:

Very possible. Its still pretty cool and interesting though. Since GW is pusing some "secret project" and something they've never done before, this is even mroe intriguing. Some were guessing a new Space Hulk, but the Dark Heresy connection is curious.

oh my dear emperor...THIS IS HERESY!!! wtf GW gave up DH what are they doing they are taking back their word! alright someone get a flamer squad a preacher and someone to cut the power...or get me a copy. Yes itd be pretty dickish of them to pull something like this out of their bums but id immediately transpose it to DH somehow and go radical on them!

...this is really kinda makin me mad i dont like orginisations that go back on their word...oh well inquisition excluded

Other possibility is that they are making a quick start version of DH to sell in GW's maybe with some models.

I honestly think though that this is just someones stuff that they got from either FFG or DH to have a go and took a photo of it. The visible information matches the current DH rules far too closely to be a seperate board game IMO.

Kaihlik

It doesn't look like some kind of quick start DH to me. Why have all those Armory Cards and on the Guardsmen card, there seems to be a listing of stats wit roman numerals ( I, II, and IV ) down the side wich doesn't jive with anything in the DH rules I know of. What would be in a quick start rule set that would be listed on a character as several "things" that are notated with roman numeral ranging, apparently, from 1-4, but obviously not a numbered list as 1 is repeated twice and then it makes a jump from 2 to 4? If these are quick start rules, why put so much production into individual weapon cards and character cards and then list out some mechanic on said character cards which apparently doesn't appear in the DH rules themselves if they are just meant to be a catapult to the main extensive rules (especialy when such would be the realm of FFG now since they're handleling the extended rules...)? After all, i thought tings like Shattered opes was quick start rules...

The roman numerals are just the ranks, it says I Conscript, II Guard, III Armsman, IV Sergeant. Which are the first 4 ranks of the guard career path. It does actually go in order its just blurred. The autopistol rules show the word Range then the numbers 0,3,15 then highlighted is 30, no prizes for working out what that is for. The other info on that sheet is Solid Projectile and Pistol. So far all of these are Dark Heresy rules. The sheets even say career path on them.

If I had to guess I would say playtester copy, has the info they need to playtest the rules in an easy to access form since they dont have a full rulebook to look it up.

To see for yourself save the picture and zoom in.

Kaihlik

Maybe it is Dark Heresy - the Card Game. For a fast everyday battle against heretics, xenos or daemons. The 4th model from the left looks very similar to the Fenksworld Pit Thing.

Looks nice indeed, but the sheets shown seem to be laminated, all in all making it look semiprofessional. No real clue what this is.

The numbers in the range line also make sense

30m is the weapon range given in the DH rulebook, up to 15m is short range then, 3m point blank and 0 probably indicates that it can be used in melee.

Kaihlik said:

It's always the simple solutions that I have the most problems with :-X

What interests me in that pic are the professional looking Stench Beast of Strank and Fenksworld Pit Thing minis at the top of the image.

If FFG is planning a 40K boardgame I hope it's a relaunch of Space Hulk.

I'm not sure that they're laminated. Perhaps just in card sleeves?

I saw that some of the higher-ups at GW were play-testing Rogue Trader material. Its possible FFG has formed a close, creative relationship with some of the overfiends at GW. This product may represent a 'joint' project, perhaps something to go along with a new scheme for distributing Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader at games workshop stores. Perhaps its a space-hulk-style boxed set with minis, in the DH universe -a kind of a gateway drug for the pliable young minds at the local games workshop. The presence of the miniatures seems undeniable (although some of them look rather like squats). I see two beasties from creatures anethema and the beginings of a couple of acolytes. Although corporate GW made the decision to let Black Industries fold, its hard to imagine that the decision sat well with the myriad progenitors of 40k, who probably relish the prosepct of 40rp as much as we do, and who supported the initial creation of Dark Heresy enthusiastically (even Dan Abnett got involved with the core book). Perhaps this represents a reunification with the folks at FFG and some of the original creative team back in the UK. A space-hulk-style game for Dark Heresy? Yes please. A new line of DH miniatures? Yes please. A re-birth of the 'Inquisitor' skirmish game with a shiny new coat of dark Heresy? Ok...More back and forth between GW products and FFG products...Why not?

40 RP devolving into something like what we see in the first images of Warhammer Fantasy 3rd ed...

No thank you...

No thank you very much...

Nullius said:

I'm inclined to agree with you. I hope to god they do not do this.

Yes, amen to that, Nullius.

You know the more I stare at the miniature at the bottom right, the more it looks like a squat holding a storm bolter...

I think Necromunda/Space Hulk style skirmish game - with plastic Acolytes vs. Beast House (the "squats" being scum, dregs and human beast handlers - akin to the overweight Rancor handler in RotJ) in the initial set, intended to cross sell DH players into the mainstream GW games and GW players back into FFGs lines.

Wilfred Owen said:

Why does no one like the look of WFRP 3rd Ed? I think it looks great.

MILLANDSON said:

I agree - looks great but I don't think it's commercially viable: $100 for an rpg - yes the components are probably worth that, it looks amazing and is probably teh ideal product to use to introduce my son to rpgs HOWEVER at the current exchange rates (plus VAT as it contains dice rather than just printed materials) we're looking at £80-85 Retail. I doubt my local store could afford to get many units it let alone me being able to afford to buy it.

Plus who is it marketed at? Does the GM fork out that amount or do the playing group club together to afford it? Who gets it when the group stops playing or splits up?

Great idea but commericially unsound in the current economic downturn IMHO. Anyway - back to ideal speculation about the GW Mystery Box...

MILLANDSON said:

The usual concerns about new editions. Worries about the change of tone, the mechanics, the general style of the game and so on. It's the herald of something new for a setting close to the hearts of many people, as well as signalling the end of support for the previous edition. My own feeling stem from what it might mean for DH/WH40KRP. I enjoy the game a great deal, despite the flaws, and something new and unknown looms on the horizon. I'm worried that the game might become something I don't enjoy, but at the same time I'm hopeful that it might become something even better than what we have currently.

Well, from what I found out about WFRP3 (not the rumblings and "what the hell" comments, but facts and pictures provided by FFG), I am terrified. Terrified that it could be the future of the Dark Heresy. Ok, separate boardgame would be cool, but transforming and REPLACING the roleplaying game system by something like this (30 DICES! 3 HUNDRED CARDS!!!) is far too scary.

From what I saw, I declare WFRP3 Xenos Extermis (with horribly good chances to be switched Malleus and Terminus), becouse this seem to be something dangerously alien to the RPG game. I just hope that somebody prove me wrong.

And that nobody would re-create 40kRP in such way.

And little on topic towards the picture: I think it be the infamous GW "Mystery Box" ... it´s said to be produced by external company, what fits FFG and everybody expect Space Hulk, forgetting that "it is something that GW have never done before".. We will see this Saturday,)

It could just be something in the pipeline for an upgrade to the Character Folio that seems to have dissapeared into the warp lately...

Or they are planning some "super box set" to get a quickstart game out there to reignite interest in DH once RT gets going...

Or maybe it will be something like Cluedo with big guns... "It was the heretic in the cargo bay with the plama gun"?

S.K.

I'm hoping its just that, an attempt to create a joint project with FFG and promote both DH and RT. Like ''My First Dark Heresy" or something. Or, of course, the photo could also be nothing.

The only thing that gives me pause are the miniatures.

since the development of the so-called "3d edition WFRoleplay(more like boardgame)" maybe its a 2nd edition Dark heresy? Yay...