Delirium Question

By Groovin, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

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"Evading Monsters" makes it very clear than an investigator can attempt to avoid combat with a monster, whether: a) the monster moved to the investigator's location; b) the the investigators ends movement in the monster's location, or; c) the monster appears as a result of a location or gate encounter. The Evasion check is made, and, if successful, precludes combat between the investigator and monster involved.

My question is, does the effect of Delirium apply to such an Evasion check. It seems logical that it does, since this Evasion is taking place prior to the combat which would ensue should the check fail. Is this correct?

Note, I am not talking about the evasion check covered under "Combat" option "Flee" which clearly would not be susceptible under Delirium since the card clearly states, "but not [any skill checks made] during combats caused by encounters." [my emphasis]

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Groovin said:

"Evading Monsters" makes it very clear than an investigator can attempt to avoid combat with a monster, whether: a) the monster moved to the investigator's location; b) the the investigators ends movement in the monster's location, or; c) the monster appears as a result of a location or gate encounter. The Evasion check is made, and, if successful, precludes combat between the investigator and monster involved.

My question is, does the effect of Delirium apply to such an Evasion check. It seems logical that it does, since this Evasion is taking place prior to the combat which would ensue should the check fail. Is this correct?

Note, I am not talking about the evasion check covered under "Combat" option "Flee" which clearly would not be susceptible under Delirium since the card clearly states, "but not [any skill checks made] during combats caused by encounters." [my emphasis]

I think maybe it would be better to emphasise different words instead:

"You lose 1 Sanity each time you get no successes on any skill check made during an encounter (but not during combats caused by encounters)."

Moving to a location with a monster, you deal with the monster in the movement phase, not as your encounter. The parenthesis bit IMO nullifies Delirium for "a monster appears", except for the pre-combat Evade.

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Dam said:

Groovin said:

"Evading Monsters" makes it very clear than an investigator can attempt to avoid combat with a monster, whether: a) the monster moved to the investigator's location; b) the the investigators ends movement in the monster's location, or; c) the monster appears as a result of a location or gate encounter. The Evasion check is made, and, if successful, precludes combat between the investigator and monster involved.

My question is, does the effect of Delirium apply to such an Evasion check. It seems logical that it does, since this Evasion is taking place prior to the combat which would ensue should the check fail. Is this correct?

Note, I am not talking about the evasion check covered under "Combat" option "Flee" which clearly would not be susceptible under Delirium since the card clearly states, "but not [any skill checks made] during combats caused by encounters." [my emphasis]

I think maybe it would be better to emphasise different words instead:

"You lose 1 Sanity each time you get no successes on any skill check made during an encounter (but not during combats caused by encounters)."

Moving to a location with a monster, you deal with the monster in the movement phase, not as your encounter. The parenthesis bit IMO nullifies Delirium for "a monster appears", except for the pre-combat Evade.

Yes, that last sentence exactly sums up my take on the matter based solely on logical reading. But, as I've said elsewhere, logical interpretation of a rule and designer intent don't necessarily always agree. This particular point was only briefly discussed elsewhere, and I have no knowledge of it coming up in actual play. Thanks for your comments.