If you have the Two Weapon Wielder talent you can hold two
weapons, one in each hand, and can make a single attack with
each. This is a Full Action , and both attack rolls blah blah

So I am a bit confused. The Rulebook states, that I can fire 2 Pistols on different fire-modi. So I can fire 2 Autopistols Full Auto, despite one attack being a Full Action?

So what about Dual Shot? Can I fire both Autopistols in Full Auto?

Or even better: Hip-Shooting. Can I move a full action and then fire 2 pistols on full-auto? (I mean it would surely look cool as hell)

I don't have my book here right now. is it possible to pin with the right hand and shoot with the left hand?

So I am a bit confused. The Rulebook states, that I can fire 2 Pistols on different fire-modi. So I can fire 2 Autopistols Full Auto, despite one attack being a Full Action?

You get one attack with each and full auto is a single attack but multiple shots , see where they draw the line? What they are

Or even better: Hip-Shooting. Can I move a full action and then fire 2 pistols on full-auto? (I mean it would surely look cool as hell)

Umm.. yeah I think you can, I believe this was covered before on the forums some where and well, strict rules reading says you can since Hip shooting with 2 weapons lets you make a single attack with each and well as before, full auto is a single attack but multiple shots .

I don't have my book here right now. is it possible to pin with the right hand and shoot with the left hand?

I.... well... I think so. You get one attack with each and well...as long as the targets are withing the required 10m of each other you seem to be good to go. Huh, never thought of that. heh.

So what about Dual Shot? Can I fire both Autopistols in Full Auto?

Nope, the wording of the rules implies a single shot with each even though they don't outright state that. It clearly states at the end though, "On a success, you hit the target with both shots." and that sinches it I think since the other fire modes are multiple shots and they reference them like that throughout the rules.

Hope that clears everything up, a lot of the two weapon stuff can be scetchy but I think it's just about all covered by now ;D

I don't have my book here right now. is it possible to pin with the right hand and shoot with the left hand?

I.... well... I think so. You get one attack with each and well...as long as the targets are withing the required 10m of each other you seem to be good to go. Huh, never thought of that. heh.

Independent Targetting would be a great talent to take if this is possible, then the 10m requirement goes out the window.

karn987 said:

Woah, thats mental... our group has always played it out as single shots with each weapon, never semi- or full- auto. Dunno why though, its not greatly overpowered when you think about it, its an attack action with each hand.

Have you got a source for anything official for this so i can present it to my GM?

2 Autopistols methinks... Matrix here we come..

S.K.

Solomon Kane said:

Heh its all in the book, it's just puzzling out their working since the lack of edditor didn't create a complete list of unified terms or an easy to understand at first glance combat action system ;D

An attack can be any attack action in DH that is relivent to the circumstances you are taking it in. Examples of a single attack with guns: Single shot, semi-auto, or full auto etc. These are single attacks because they make a single test to hit with, see where the key thing pops up? Infact, I think just about every attack action you can make with a gun is single attacks. With melee weapons and having things such as Swift Attack and Lightning Attack you grant yourself multiple attacks but if you were granted a single attack through the use of some special talent (Ex: I have a house version of hip shooting for melee, same basic rules but melee. You would only get one attack with each weapon regaurdless if you have swift or lightning attack).

The real key to puzzling this out is the errated Appendix 1: Combat Talents thing in the errata 3.0 (page 11 of the erata fyi)

"If you have the Two Weapon Widler talen you can hold two weapons, one in each hand, and can make a single attack with each" Pretty self explanitory, you get a single attack with each.

The other super important blurb is in the core rule book, page 197 the second to last dot on the two-weapon fighting entry.

"When firing a ranged weapon in each hand, you may fire each weapon on a different mode": That pretty much answers it right there ;D

Obviously its still a full action to make attacks with both guns and the appropriate modifiers need be applied for two-weapon fighting and what talents you have to it. But a skilled person with 2 autopistols = death for anyone with light armor ;D

Emprah_Horus said:

Well it really all comes down to the wording on page 197 and that second to last bullet under two-weapon fighting, the "you can fire each on different modes". You can make a single attack with each and well Pinning is a single attack and it uses the full-auto mode... so unless there is something saying, no you can't do this specifically... I think you can.