All I want for Christmas is more Licenses.

By Mt_Do, in UFS General Discussion

Which Steve, you have managed to get. With the release of Tekken, it only seems natural for another thread about what license you wish to see. These are my top five games, not all fighters, but some of the things I wish to see.

1) Blaz Blue Calamity Trigger. Why? Because for the love of the metal gods, we need a license that has a kick ass soundtrack.

2) Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core. Have you guys seen the fight between Genesis and Sephiroth? type it into youtube if you haven't seen it. I think it is funny that people asume that UFS is just for fighting games when fighting is in every game other than racing games, puzzlers, and some platformers.

3) Guilty Gear X. Yes I am aware that that is beaten to death. This is more of a what if as I am aware that that is one license we will never get.

4) Virtua Fighter 5. Why not?

5) Bleach: Yes I know they loss there game, but UFS would be a far better system for it. But it's anime and I don't want my game ruined by fan boys. Yeah, but some of you ruin it with your negatvie, jaded, emo veiws on our game anyways so it won't matter.

Have fun with this.

Mt_Do said:

5) Bleach: Yes I know they loss there game, but UFS would be a far better system for it. But it's anime and I don't want my game ruined by fan boys. Yeah, but some of you ruin it with your negatvie, jaded, emo veiws on our game anyways so it won't matter.

Have fun with this.

the emo part must be refering to me lengua.gif

all of these ideas sound great the problem is ufs can't really get anymore licenses because right now it already has too many. with only one set per release it will be hard enough to deal with the licenses that ufs already has let alone any new ones.

Let's go over this list (all of these are my opinions, of course):

1) BY ALL THAT IS HOLY, YES!!!! I WANT TO CRUSH WITH MY GIGANTIC TAGER!!!

2) Meh. Never been a fan of FF, do what you will. I'll buy any singles I like and/or need from it (which is unlikely, as I don't really see any guy in FF7 besides maybe Barret who can fit the Earth resource symbol), but you're not getting me to buy a box of that fruit(cake) salad.

3) *sheds tear* It's too bad we'll never get it, it would be a blast.

4) D00d, that game is boring as all the hells to me. I would LOVE to see it spiced up in a card game (maybe I could finally get into it).

5) NO. NOT BLEACH. PLEASE, NOT BLEACH. OR NARUTO EITHER. NO NO NOOOOO!!!

I would SO love it if Arksys would grant them a BlazBlue License. I want to dancing kitty Taokaka all across my opponents face when they try to hit me with a gigantic Tager. Also, I want a 'Bang's Theme Sound' asset. :D

Here is my opinion on these ones.

1) Blaz Blue Calamity Trigger.
--I think I would die from happiness of this came into UFS (but never happening :-( )

2) Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core.
--I personally do not want to see FF games in UFS (HUGE fan of FF though). I just don't see them having a part in the over feel of the game.

3) Guilty Gear X
--Again...death by happiness ( but again...never happening :-( )

4) Virtua Fighter 5
--The only reason I can think of for not wanting this...is I don't like the game much...but seeing as that is not a good reason, I don't think I would actually mind if it entered the ring.

5) Bleach
--No anime sets. I think I would be OK with a battle box of some kind though.

Now, as much as I would love new licenses, are this game is right now, the game we have will barely see the light of day. The game needs to get back to 2 games a set and holo cards before we can truly think about adding in something new.

Mt_Do said:

2) Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core. Have you guys seen the fight between Genesis and Sephiroth? type it into youtube if you haven't seen it. I think it is funny that people asume that UFS is just for fighting games when fighting is in every game other than racing games, puzzlers, and some platformers.

NO. EVER.

I think I rember hearing from some FFG staff about a year ago about looking into expanding their options into V.S. area (ie. Capcom vs Street Fighter vs SNK vs etc). This would be cool because they wouldn't necessarily need to really overly expand their licensing rights.

Plus I have always been hoping they might expand beyond KOF 2006 and SS5 so we could get access to some of the other characters in those games. This shouldn't be too hard either per the reason I listed above.

I think it's funny, we get a million threads about what new license FFG should try to get and what license we would like to see in UFS. And everytime they get a new one we get people complaining about. "I refuse to buy Shadowar because it's not a figting game" or "they just want to make more money so they are going to make Shadowar cards over powered" and "Tekken sucks boycott it". Ah the UFS community.

JDub said:

I think it's funny, we get a million threads about what new license FFG should try to get and what license we would like to see in UFS. And everytime they get a new one we get people complaining about. "I refuse to buy Shadowar because it's not a figting game" or "they just want to make more money so they are going to make Shadowar cards over powered" and "Tekken sucks boycott it". Ah the UFS community.

Aw...why so serious JDUB? look, it is an old ass topic I am aware, but it is a fun topic and one that I feel needs its own spot in the forum directory. But I digress. The reason I did this is b/c there have been so many negatives that it gets me sick. Something fun is needed, so don't be a killjoy. just respond with an answer or don't reply at all.

To be honest, I feel that a random well known anime/Final Fantasy will help the player base. If you are not a fan of the anime such as bleach/naruto or whatever may come, then dont buy that particular set? These sets will only come around once a year or so with the increasing number of licences there will be many other games to make cards for. Yes I as an asian have met many "fanboys" most are actually pretty nice unless maybe you get their favorite character wrong, but who doesn't do that?
PS: Who doesn't want to omnislash their opponent?

Hayamachop said:

PS: Who doesn't want to omnislash their opponent?

I don't.

In fact, FFVII would definitely make me reconsider my choice of playing this game. It wouldn't just be a "oh just don't buy that set." situation. If the character roster for Tekken or any other license had been something I didn't like I probably would have picked up one box just to get some commons/uncommons and that's that (and I did - most of the Soul Calibur sets I don't have a lot of because my favorites tend to be glossed over). We are talking about a license I do not want in the game, period. We are talking about a license that I generally say "anything but that." We are talking about a license that would bring people I do not want to talk to, much less play against, in the game. We are talking about the freaking Twilight of RPGs. We are talking about a license that, by it's simple release, would make me enjoy the game a whole lot less.

tl;dr version - FFVII goes in. I get out.

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You now have your way to get rid of me, people. Work on it.

FFVII will def get me to raise an eyebrow. FF in general though is perfectly fine as long as set 1 isn't all VII chars....

BB, GG, and VF are pretty much my top 3 wanted fighters/liscenses. Last Blade and KOF expansions are pretty high up in my want list too.

Final Fantasy Crisis Core?! seriously no! that is the standard adventure game of Final Fantasy... now saying Dissidia would make MUCH more sense since that is a fighting game of the Final Fantasy franchise.

Guilty Gear/BlazBlue would be solid

Virtua Fighter or Dead or Alive would be good thoughts too

Bleach... true there are anime fighting games but I don't think that UFS is 'appropriate' in a way for them to be part of.

Mt_Do said:

JDub said:

I think it's funny, we get a million threads about what new license FFG should try to get and what license we would like to see in UFS. And everytime they get a new one we get people complaining about. "I refuse to buy Shadowar because it's not a figting game" or "they just want to make more money so they are going to make Shadowar cards over powered" and "Tekken sucks boycott it". Ah the UFS community.

Aw...why so serious JDUB? look, it is an old ass topic I am aware, but it is a fun topic and one that I feel needs its own spot in the forum directory. But I digress. The reason I did this is b/c there have been so many negatives that it gets me sick. Something fun is needed, so don't be a killjoy. just respond with an answer or don't reply at all.

I wasn't trying to rip on your thread or anything. I just thought it was funny that there are two threads right now, one asking for more licenses and one saying boycott the newest license they got. People always want new licenses and every time we get one people complain about it. Doesn't make any sense.

that's cool jdub. I see what you are saying. But what is even funnier is the fact that if we were to get FF VII Crisis Core, we may have a ton of complaints. After all, tis the Twilight of RPG's even though the franchise has been out since the 80's. Hmmm...I guess Crisis Core shook a few of you guys. Lol, eh Homme?

You can put me in the same boat as him; I hope UFS never decides to go for FF.

That being said, BlazBlue and Virtua Fighter COULD happen, and I would love to actually see it in print.

Side Note: If Iron Tager doesn't have the Earth resource symbol, you have butchered the character beyond repair.

I have been a staunch supporter of the "new licenses are good" theory.

Simply put, any new license will help expose the game to new players, and that is what we call "a good thing".

I'd love to see the game move to a LCG format personally. Every month a new batch of cards for 9.99 just like AGoT and CoC LCGs.
We would finally be rid of the "OMG I GOT TOO MANY/TOO FEW CHARACTERS IN MY BOX" complaints and the "CARD X IS TOO RARE/CARD Y IS NOT RARE ENOUGH CARDS" complaints.

How nice would it be to see 2 or 3 characters + support in a set box that releases monthly? I know for a fact our sales locally would triple, and a lot of players would come back since everyone has their favorite character/license and doesn't necessarily want to keep buying tons of packs for a set they don't care about except for one character.

this would also allow them to release more licenses.
It wouldn't be a massive risk to release a BlazBlue, Final Fantasy, WWE, Penny Arcade, Virtua Fighter, Dancing with the stars, Guilty Gear, Taco Bell Vs Mconald's, or other random set, since if you don't like it, you aren't missing out on a 99 card set, just a few cards. But if there is a hot card within, it is only 9.99 to get that card guaranteeed.

Hey look this month it is a Street Fighter: "Master of Saikyo" Battle Pack (or whatever the LCG packs would be called) Where you get Blanka, Dan, and Sakura with support!
What's that? You hate street fighter? just wait till next month when we get our Darkstalkers "Vampire Saviors" Pack! Lilith, Dimitri and morrigan!
Still not interested?
Well the month after has the Tekken "Juggler Jamboree" Pack! Bruce, Devil Jin and Marshall Law!

So instead of people rage /qutting the game because their favorite license hasnt shown up in a year, or they hate a certain license, they just ignore the pack this month, and get psyched for next month.

Sure the cards individually would not be worth a whole bunch, but people keep touting that it is "about the game not the money" with reference to prizes or singles, so that shouldn't be a problem, right?

Instead of asking what license do you hope to see in the next decade, you could see all of them every year!!

Jypsy said:

I have been a staunch supporter of the "new licenses are good" theory.

Simply put, any new license will help expose the game to new players, and that is what we call "a good thing".

I'd love to see the game move to a LCG format personally. Every month a new batch of cards for 9.99 just like AGoT and CoC LCGs.
We would finally be rid of the "OMG I GOT TOO MANY/TOO FEW CHARACTERS IN MY BOX" complaints and the "CARD X IS TOO RARE/CARD Y IS NOT RARE ENOUGH CARDS" complaints.

How nice would it be to see 2 or 3 characters + support in a set box that releases monthly? I know for a fact our sales locally would triple, and a lot of players would come back since everyone has their favorite character/license and doesn't necessarily want to keep buying tons of packs for a set they don't care about except for one character.

this would also allow them to release more licenses.
It wouldn't be a massive risk to release a BlazBlue, Final Fantasy, WWE, Penny Arcade, Virtua Fighter, Dancing with the stars, Guilty Gear, Taco Bell Vs Mconald's, or other random set, since if you don't like it, you aren't missing out on a 99 card set, just a few cards. But if there is a hot card within, it is only 9.99 to get that card guaranteeed.

Hey look this month it is a Street Fighter: "Master of Saikyo" Battle Pack (or whatever the LCG packs would be called) Where you get Blanka, Dan, and Sakura with support!
What's that? You hate street fighter? just wait till next month when we get our Darkstalkers "Vampire Saviors" Pack! Lilith, Dimitri and morrigan!
Still not interested?
Well the month after has the Tekken "Juggler Jamboree" Pack! Bruce, Devil Jin and Marshall Law!

So instead of people rage /qutting the game because their favorite license hasnt shown up in a year, or they hate a certain license, they just ignore the pack this month, and get psyched for next month.

Sure the cards individually would not be worth a whole bunch, but people keep touting that it is "about the game not the money" with reference to prizes or singles, so that shouldn't be a problem, right?

Instead of asking what license do you hope to see in the next decade, you could see all of them every year!!

The LCG would kill this game. Period. Each individual set would only emphasize 2-3 symbols at most, and would limit the amount or versatility a symbol could have. We would get into strict definitions of Death only doing discard, Chaos only messing with momentum, ect... Something like a base set would be great for the game though. Like MTG with thier editions, it would be great to continue a mini block format while having a base set. It would encourage Brick and Mortar stores to carry the game again, because it would be back stock that sells. Someone new to the game could get most of the staples out of one set and build a strong deck, then modify it with the expansions. We currently have a system like this, but the base sets are still individual liscences so there are a lot of specialized cards for the starter characters and very few generic(though SW did have some) cards that make thier way into the game in some way or another. This would also eliminate the need for banning certain power cards since they should be well rounded tried and true cards that nobody should complain about and are still staples. Just my opinion. But I do agree we need a Taco Bell vs. McDonalds battle pack or Rick James vs. Charlie Murphy.

caligulus said:

Jypsy said:

I have been a staunch supporter of the "new licenses are good" theory.

Simply put, any new license will help expose the game to new players, and that is what we call "a good thing".

I'd love to see the game move to a LCG format personally. Every month a new batch of cards for 9.99 just like AGoT and CoC LCGs.
We would finally be rid of the "OMG I GOT TOO MANY/TOO FEW CHARACTERS IN MY BOX" complaints and the "CARD X IS TOO RARE/CARD Y IS NOT RARE ENOUGH CARDS" complaints.

How nice would it be to see 2 or 3 characters + support in a set box that releases monthly? I know for a fact our sales locally would triple, and a lot of players would come back since everyone has their favorite character/license and doesn't necessarily want to keep buying tons of packs for a set they don't care about except for one character.

this would also allow them to release more licenses.
It wouldn't be a massive risk to release a BlazBlue, Final Fantasy, WWE, Penny Arcade, Virtua Fighter, Dancing with the stars, Guilty Gear, Taco Bell Vs Mconald's, or other random set, since if you don't like it, you aren't missing out on a 99 card set, just a few cards. But if there is a hot card within, it is only 9.99 to get that card guaranteeed.

Hey look this month it is a Street Fighter: "Master of Saikyo" Battle Pack (or whatever the LCG packs would be called) Where you get Blanka, Dan, and Sakura with support!
What's that? You hate street fighter? just wait till next month when we get our Darkstalkers "Vampire Saviors" Pack! Lilith, Dimitri and morrigan!
Still not interested?
Well the month after has the Tekken "Juggler Jamboree" Pack! Bruce, Devil Jin and Marshall Law!

So instead of people rage /qutting the game because their favorite license hasnt shown up in a year, or they hate a certain license, they just ignore the pack this month, and get psyched for next month.

Sure the cards individually would not be worth a whole bunch, but people keep touting that it is "about the game not the money" with reference to prizes or singles, so that shouldn't be a problem, right?

Instead of asking what license do you hope to see in the next decade, you could see all of them every year!!

The LCG would kill this game. Period. Each individual set would only emphasize 2-3 symbols at most, and would limit the amount or versatility a symbol could have. We would get into strict definitions of Death only doing discard, Chaos only messing with momentum, ect... Something like a base set would be great for the game though. Like MTG with thier editions, it would be great to continue a mini block format while having a base set. It would encourage Brick and Mortar stores to carry the game again, because it would be back stock that sells. Someone new to the game could get most of the staples out of one set and build a strong deck, then modify it with the expansions. We currently have a system like this, but the base sets are still individual liscences so there are a lot of specialized cards for the starter characters and very few generic(though SW did have some) cards that make thier way into the game in some way or another. This would also eliminate the need for banning certain power cards since they should be well rounded tried and true cards that nobody should complain about and are still staples. Just my opinion. But I do agree we need a Taco Bell vs. McDonalds battle pack or Rick James vs. Charlie Murphy.

I don't see how it would kill UFS. you know that the LCG packs release monthly right? So in 3-4 months we would have a good portion of the symbols covered just like we do now in a full set.

Isn't one of the huge complaints about the game that we keep hearing is too many symbols are too versatile? until recently evil did whatever the heck it wanted, and order right behind it (or switch those around depending on your style).

A base set would not encourage B&M stores to carry the game any more than the current crop of cards does, as far as they are concerned it is "just another set of a game that we didn't sell before"

Let me counter that statement though, As a store owner, why would you carry a box of cards that retails for 95.76 a box (MSRP), you paid about $45-50 for it, and then you have players come in that won't buy any since they can go online and buy it for $55-60 a box. That is a $50 average risk per box. Sure some will sell but much like most B&M stores, but there is no point in ordering more than a box or two at a time unless you have a dedicated playgroup. If they don't stock it now, they don't have a dedicated playgroup.

Let's say they switch to the LCG format. A retailer's cost per monthly pack is going to be about $6, and it will be sold for $9.99. That is a $6 risk per pack. If you want to go online and buy those packs, you are only going to be saving about $2-$3 each. Hardly worth buying online then, eh? Retailers see this, and are willing to take a chance since if it doesn't sell, they aren't out 50$ per box.

Locally we have found the LCG format to be a much better alternative to a player looking for a "secondary" game. Most people play one game heavily and others only casually. If a player is playing a game like magic, where you have to invest a decent portion of cash every 4 months for the newest product, they really aren't going to spend as much on their Secondary Game. Then what happens when both games get released close to each other? One will suffer, and I guarantee you it will be UFS.

everyone that is on these forums that plays in local events can afford a 10$ pack of cards per month. that is $120 for every card released in a year. I know some of you, and some of my players have spent that much on one set chasing after a few key cards. (spike, spinta, Kinght breaker, addes, etc) This guarantees sales for the local retailer and return business every month when they come to see what the new UFS cards are.

Also traditionally, Core Sets are some of the weakest selling Magic sets on record. Why? because the regular players already have everything in them. Now the new one, Core Set 2010 did it right, a smaller core set (249 cards) with half of the cards within being reprints, but the other half all new cards. This was a phenominal idea and product is selling very steadily. A set of reprints is a great idea, but the excitement of getting something "new" in a pack is much more thrilling than getting cards you have seen before.

Can't we ever go a day without this coming up? =/

G-Force needs its own expansion.

People seem to have a hate on for Final Fantasy. Would that include Dissidia? That's a fighting game, isnt it? :)

I wouldnt mind a switch to the LCG system myself, although I think they would have to change the formatting a bit to make it work. In my perfect word, they'd be a replacement for the Battle Boxes, and give use two new Character Packs per month. One month could be Fatal Fury time, with a Terry pack and a Geese Howard pack. A character pack whould have around 18 cards: The character, 1-2 Assets, 1-2 Actions, and the rest a split of Attacks and foundations. Basically two 'sheets' worth of cards. You get a decent array of cards per month, you can rotate properties faster, and you have a constant set of new cards rotating in every month to keep interest up. For Prize support, along with the normal promos they'd get a form where the winner can vote on the next set of characters to get released in a couple months. Base Sets would be 'Key' characters in each license, and include additional support cards for ideas common to that license or for reprints.

dshaffer said:

People seem to have a hate on for Final Fantasy. Would that include Dissidia? That's a fighting game, isnt it? :)

Oh, just the 7th installment.

The rest I wouldn't care. But that one? I'm outta here. Even if Dissidia features the two characters I hate the most from that game.

I'm just not a fan of the whole series (I've always thought The Elder Scrolls games p0wn them so hard, I don't even know why I would consider playing them). If Dissidia is a bona-fide fighting game, and they feel like bringing it in, ehhh... I'll buy singles I like from the support of whomever happens to be handed the Ear th and Good resource symbols.

I would kind like to see if UFS bring back some of those classic arcade characters, ie.

Bloody Roar Series

Psychic Force Series

Rival Schools

Mortal Combat

Zero Divide

IF UFS is going toward the capcom vs or like super bro brawls theme, maybe some special characters like;

Snake and Raiden in Metal Gear solid, Rikimaru from Tenchu, Jill from Resident Evil or others that are known for their combat skills in games rather than in anime.

Homme Chapeau said:

dshaffer said:

People seem to have a hate on for Final Fantasy. Would that include Dissidia? That's a fighting game, isnt it? :)

Oh, just the 7th installment.

The rest I wouldn't care. But that one? I'm outta here. Even if Dissidia features the two characters I hate the most from that game.

Fine, would you like to lionheart everyone to death instead >_>;