Perhaps one of the least amusing, yet most important bits he's done to date. I strongly encourage a watch, especially if you're American. Note the interruption of the congresswoman for 'breaking news' about Bieber; it's the only time in my entire life that I can recall actually face-palming, and audibly at that.
So, should be resume a public debate about government surveillance, or are we simply content to not care anymore?
"Breaking news about Bieber" is a paradoxical statement.
I think if Snowden had just explained it that way to begin with, there would be a lot more people who would be upset about the invasion of privacy. Though some patriots will continue to do it, regardless, because in the off chance that an NSA guy scrolling through pictures of junk happens upon a terrible plot that can be prevented, I feel that it is still a net positive for the collection of data. Considering that so far ( from what we know) only the NSA has seen our (collective) junk while snooping out the bad guys they haven't violated the trust of the American public.
Unlike those dudes behind the fappening, which basically proved that no matter how secure your junk pictures are, someone will find them and they will post them, like a junk crazed Liam Neeson.
I used to be a supporter, butI have a hard time taking his word after that sham Putin interview.
The NSA will watch your junk, The TSA will touch your junk...
I think for a lot of us born after about 1980 we just assume that NOTHING we ever wrote down or say loud is really safe from being overheard or copied and sold and used to exploit us for monetary or political gain in the future. Could we stop the government from doing it? Maybe. Can we stop the private sector and our more tech-savvy kids from doing it to us? Probably not.
That's why the reaction is so underwhelming I think. It's the information age. We just expect it. Heck I even like targeted ads.
I think for a lot of us born after about 1980 we just assume that NOTHING we ever wrote down or say loud is really safe from being overheard or copied and sold and used to exploit us for monetary or political gain in the future. Could we stop the government from doing it? Maybe. Can we stop the private sector and our more tech-savvy kids from doing it to us? Probably not.
That's why the reaction is so underwhelming I think. It's the information age. We just expect it. Heck I even like targeted ads.
i kind of agree as i was born way before that and think that ANYTHING you put on the net or air can be intercepted and overheard. including cell phones. I have an older Scanning radio and it would pick up older cell phone conversations. was fun o listen to them on friday nights..lol what baffles me are the folks that get on FB and other sites and literally post every second of what they are doing and where they are doing it with GPS precision and pictures and live time stamps. makes for easy targeting of info or worse. Folks need to realize that future employers can also access that net and see what your doing and or have done.. Unless your Hillary Clinton of course..lol
I think for a lot of us born after about 1980 we just assume that NOTHING we ever wrote down or say loud is really safe from being overheard or copied and sold and used to exploit us for monetary or political gain in the future. Could we stop the government from doing it? Maybe. Can we stop the private sector and our more tech-savvy kids from doing it to us? Probably not.
That's why the reaction is so underwhelming I think. It's the information age. We just expect it. Heck I even like targeted ads.
Rage, rage against the dying of the ligth.
Besides, the arrogance of the US in spying on their allies is maddening, I don't care what your government does to you, but they'd better keep their filthy dictatorial hands out of my stuff.
Keep tabs on your enemies, keep more tabs on your friends.
Obama can see my d*ck pics if he wants.
So can Putin. He sais he's not into that but if you keep posting pics of yourself topless and then bash on homosexuals, then you are not fooling anyone...
Woul'd Kim Young Un want to see our d*ck pics tough?
Edited by Robin GravesI think for a lot of us born after about 1980 we just assume that NOTHING we ever wrote down or say loud is really safe from being overheard or copied and sold and used to exploit us for monetary or political gain in the future. Could we stop the government from doing it? Maybe. Can we stop the private sector and our more tech-savvy kids from doing it to us? Probably not.
That's why the reaction is so underwhelming I think. It's the information age. We just expect it. Heck I even like targeted ads.
Rage, rage against the dying of the ligth.
Besides, the arrogance of the US in spying on their allies is maddening, I don't care what your government does to you, but they'd better keep their filthy dictatorial hands out of my stuff.
I think the spying on foreign parties is the most concerning revelation and we should take steps to stop it. But I 100% expect that foreign powers will continue to spy on each other.
Edited by TasteTheRainbowUS intelligence practices can best be described as the acquisition of needles through the mass collection of haystacks.
They're there, allegedly, and we'll never have the time to look through them all, bit I assure you we have all the needles to stop an attack.
I think for a lot of us born after about 1980 we just assume that NOTHING we ever wrote down or say loud is really safe from being overheard or copied and sold and used to exploit us for monetary or political gain in the future. Could we stop the government from doing it? Maybe. Can we stop the private sector and our more tech-savvy kids from doing it to us? Probably not.
That's why the reaction is so underwhelming I think. It's the information age. We just expect it. Heck I even like targeted ads.
I too always assumed that phone conversations and such could be monitored. I had always thought that the government had scrubbers that would catch on key words, allowing them to follow terrorists or other threats. But maybe I watched too much James Bond.
I think when this Snowden leak broke it was news to the mainstream population causing an uproar.
That's why the reaction is so underwhelming I think. It's the information age. We just expect it. Heck I even like targeted ads.
I'll take a targeted ad over "<your state here> driver saves hundreds with this one simple trick!" banners any day.
But do I care if someone monitors and reviews my entire life? Of course not. I'm not special. Do I think there will be times the monitor abuses their power? yes, but nothing is perfect. Eventually it will lead to even more analytics to filter out 99.99% of the useless information anyways.
I'm not sure you understand just how much information you're leaking and how much about you and your family can be inferred from it.
Why do I care? If the US government goes really, really bad then us stopping them from mass data collection in 2015 won't change the end result. I won't lose any sleep over a database somewhere listing my preferences in sushi.
What am I leaking electronically? Almost everything. So what?
Political views for instance.
My political views are extremely public. A government knowing my political views is only bad in a situation where they start yanking rights from minority parties or some such awfulness. If the government goes that bad no possible amount of secrecy will make any difference.
Heck I email my political views to the government regularly. Everyone should.
Where you are and what you're doing at all times, for instance. I get that you think your life is boring, but what if the government decided to begin cracking down on speeding tickets, and now suddenly your travel records that your phone company tracked are being used to prove you owe like fifty tickets or whatever.
I believe in laws, so that wouldn't really bother me. If probably gripe a bit, but I would survive.
Man, that is an awful lot of trust you're putting into the government. Why not concede all of the other rights you're not presently using, while you're at it?
Speeding is the most banal of things I could think of. Let's say you're running for office and the challenger has your porn history? Or the government is reading your intimate communications with your wife?
My political views are extremely public. A government knowing my political views is only bad in a situation where they start yanking rights from minority parties or some such awfulness. If the government goes that bad no possible amount of secrecy will make any difference.
Well, looking at the history of just your country we see that in the past 100 years people have been deported and imprisoned without trial for their political views, that careers and lifes have been destroyed. You also see a (voluntary or not) political segregation ( http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/29/opinion/age-of-political-segregation.html ) and political parties in power restructuring voting districts to ensure they get the most votes no matter what, thereby invalidating your vote.
It leads to laws such as Indiana has just implemented, allowing people to discriminate against you because you don't think the same.
Man, that is an awful lot of trust you're putting into the government. Why not concede all of the other rights you're not presently using, while you're at it?
I don't trust them at all. I just don't see how it makes a difference. They're either going to get up to some shenanigans and we're screwed or they're not and them knowing where I buy my pancakes won't matter.
Speeding is the most banal of things I could think of. Let's say you're running for office and the challenger has your porn history? Or the government is reading your intimate communications with your wife?
I'm all for knowing the porn history of everyone seeking office.