Female Devaronians... What do they look like?

By RodianClone, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

I have done some searching and found e few different results. Some pictures show female devaronians as albino werewolf women and some show them as red elves with dark dots on their foreheads.

They look very different, but I think I actually like that! Why should everyone from the same species look the same? In a way it makes more sense to me that they don`t and have different sub-species and ethnicities.

But male devaronians still all look like red devils, so what is the deal with this species?

I guess it might be as easy as "different sources and artists have described and depicted them differently" or there might be an unnecessarily complicated EU/legends/canon/fan explanation...

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or...

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Or both?

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I was about to say, WHAAAT!? SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET!!!!

And then I went and read the Legends Wookiepedia writeup and was like... "huh! Welp that's as much info as we've been given".

The topmost picture is quite a good example, I think.

The hyperlink for the image keeps breaking, but here http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Devaronian .

I say if it suits your game, use either, or both.

I'm speculating, but maybe some artists were inspired by Dungeons and Dragons, opted to make a Tiefling equivalent female of the Star Wars "devil" race.

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I was about to say, WHAAAT!? SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET!!!!

And then I went and read the Legends Wookiepedia writeup and was like... "huh! Welp that's as much info as we've been given".

The topmost picture is quite a good example, I think.

The hyperlink for the image keeps breaking, but here http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Devaronian .

I say if it suits your game, use either, or both.

I'm speculating, but maybe some artists were inspired by Dungeons and Dragons, opted to make a Tiefling equivalent female of the Star Wars "devil" race.

Even wookiepedia shows both versions.. Who is wrong about what? I am all for multiple interpretations of a fictional universe and have never understood the obsessing over what is canon and what is not.

The old EU legends writers of various sources did not read up on, or deliberately changed, how they look. If you want an official answer, you'll have to wait for a new canon source that finalizes the look.

Until then, choose what you like.

Some sources also depict them as just female humanoids with angular features...

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Yep, I think West End Games originally described the women as furry, with no horns, in Galaxy Guide 4 . Then Dark Horse Comics (as they were often wont to do) made up their own look with no regard for what WEG had said.

The same thing happened to Bothans, Bimms, and, to a lesser extent, Noghri. With Bothans, sources have mostly glossed over the disparities as genetic diversity (West End Bothans look like simians, while Dark Horse Bothans look like horses or goats). For the Bimms, we got a retcon that there are two species of Bimms on the same world (the West End/Decipher near-Humans and the Dark Horse monkey people).

For the Devaronian women, I don't think there's any official explanation. The new canon will likely jettison one or both depictions (I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Devaronian woman down the line who is simply a red-skinned humanoid with horns and boobs). In the meantime, I agree, choose what you like, chalk it up to two subspecies, or say that current cultural norms on Devaron are for women to get electrolysis.

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Keep your Legends material to yourself. We're discussing Canon here.

The Essential Guide to Aliens list the only differences as males have horns and the teeth of a carnivore while the females have no horns and the blunt teeth of an omnivore. No mention of furries.

Is this from an rpg?

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Look's a lot like Wizard of the Coast's work.

Yes, that picture is from one of the Wizards of the Coast versions, RodianClone

The Essential Guide to Aliens list the only differences as males have horns and the teeth of a carnivore while the females have no horns and the blunt teeth of an omnivore. No mention of furries.

Odds are that any "canon" approach to the species will probably take their nod from this version, going more with the look seen in the Legacy comics than the older RPG material.

The Essential Guide to Aliens list the only differences as males have horns and the teeth of a carnivore while the females have no horns and the blunt teeth of an omnivore. No mention of furries.

Odds are that any "canon" approach to the species will probably take their nod from this version, going more with the look seen in the Legacy comics than the older RPG material.

Why can`t both apply? I would be impressed with them if they actually decided on that! Strict and narrow canon only makes me think of Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons.

The Essential Guide to Aliens list the only differences as males have horns and the teeth of a carnivore while the females have no horns and the blunt teeth of an omnivore. No mention of furries.

Odds are that any "canon" approach to the species will probably take their nod from this version, going more with the look seen in the Legacy comics than the older RPG material.

Why can`t both apply? I would be impressed with them if they actually decided on that! Strict and narrow canon only makes me think of Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons.

Probably to keep things simple both for future authors and for the Story Group themselves. If the Essential Guide already dispatched with the "furry female" style of Devaronian well before the creation of the Legends brand, then that's a pretty good indicator of which way they're going to go if/when the matter next comes up.

What to choose? Horney or furry...

I always thought the different sort of sexual dimorphism was an interesting feature of the species.

I feel very sorry for the transgender Devaronians. That level of dimorphism would make any sort of medical transition nearly impossible...

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Actually a really terrible way to distinguish gender.

I feel very sorry for the transgender Devaronians. That level of dimorphism would make any sort of medical transition nearly impossible...

That's actually an interesting concept; I wonder what level of medical technology they have in Star Wars to deal with such situations. I mean, they have holoshrouds (rare and expensive) that allow you to completely alter your appearance, and various people (including Doctor Evazan and the B'omarr monks) have been able to completely transfer consciousness from one body to another. The notion that general medical technology would be capable of biologically altering someone's sex, even in such a dimorphic species, seems not unreasonable. And actually a cool idea for a character.

EDIT: And after mentioning this to my girlfriend, she has suggested that in fact all the red dotted females are Devaronian trans women. Dunno if I agree, but a neat headcanon.

Edited by GAThraawn

My thoughts on female Devaronians are the same I had on female Krogan from Mass Effect.

We've only seen the females. What do the men look like?

But, seriously, why do the different genders have to look different at all in a fantasy setting?

My thoughts on female Devaronians are the same I had on female Krogan from Mass Effect.

We've only seen the females. What do the men look like?

But, seriously, why do the different genders have to look different at all in a fantasy setting?

They don't.

But in this case, we've already been told that they do -- it's just that different sources say that they're different in different ways.

Sexual dimorphism is pretty widespread across the various types of multi-cellular animals on Earth, however, so it's not as if there's no reality upon which to base the presumption.

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Because many species on earth have an interesting dynamic between male and female. Underwater life is the most drastic, with the two genders sometimes not even looking like the same creature at all! While often in Amphibians, the female is larger than the male. Then in the bird world, women are often less colorful and elaborately downed as the males of their species.

Humans and Mammals are usually the ones that differ the least, but even Male goats to female goats (which the Devaronians are based off of) have larger/smaller horns or none at all.

It's a big weird universe we have out there, when I imagine life on other planets, I would not take mammals as my key example as how all life should be.

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My thoughts on female Devaronians are the same I had on female Krogan from Mass Effect.

We've only seen the females. What do the men look like?

But, seriously, why do the different genders have to look different at all in a fantasy setting?

They don`t. But I find it interesting when aliens actually feel alien, and for some reason, most aliens in Star Wars have the same two genders, gender roles and concepts of genders as most human cultures. It is ok, because this is space opera and science fantasy, so alien species are just different cultures and extremes, just like races in a fantasy setting. But isn`t it plausible that aliens could have totaly different gender views, gender roles and even genders than humans? Hutts used to be hemaphrodite and devaronians had two very differently looking genders. Some alien species could have more than two genders or maybe no genders at all.. right? Why make aliens so human in everything else than appearance?

And why the h*** do we need to sex droids?.. :P

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