Yet another endless final battle

By Cim2, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

Innsmouth does seem to be drawing these out of the woodwork, though this one was possible - though nowhere near as easy - since CotDP.

Ithaqua is really not in good shape vs spell casters with a Heal spell that manages to survive the equipment destruction who have some way to offset the sanity cost (Agnes can pay it out of stamina, and will generally get 2-3 back per casting; Harvey can pass their PS and similarly regain stamina fast; Dexter likewise, and Daisy starts out that way).

Harvey can pull the same trick vs Yig, even more easily, at least once the Curse is removed.

The Feeding the Mind spell from CotDP, of course, lets you convert 1 stamina to 2 sanity. You can then use one of those sanity to cast Heal and get several back. Again, it's just a useful combination during the game, but Yig stands no chance vs a strong spellcaster with those two spells.

It's not too bad - you have to obtain the spells, and either clear the Curse quickly (Yig) or have them survive into the fight (Ithaqua), so it's by no means as guaranteed as Roland vs Nyarlathotep or Michael vs uncorrected Rhan.

Hastur vs Feeding the Mind+Heal, on the other hand: a Lore 6 character can on average spend 2 stamina for 4 sanity. They can then on average regain 2 stamina from Heal at a cost of 1 sanity, lose 2 more from Hastur's attack, and still come out in profit. Harvey has a much easier time - with a passed PS, Heal doesn't have a sanity cost, and Hastur only does one damage, so only a single success (on a 7 die Lore check) is needed for each spell. Dunwich's weaker Cloud Memory spell would be sufficient here.

(and yes, I know, Epic Battle fixes these)

I'll throw in a couple I came across as I was browsing the KH Allies:

Ithaqua vs Michael McGlen or Vincent Lee + Herbert West. Unless Vincent has a weapon or skill to boost Fight, it will never end. Michael of course gets to roll 3 dice.

Hastur vs Carolyn Fern + Terrible Old Man. Take 2, heal 2, rinse repeat. Hastur can have a -4 mod even if Carolyn is bare naked gui%C3%B1o.gif and Hastur will lose.

EB fix these as well. Guess they needed to put EB into KH as it added allies that break the final combat lengua.gif .

Lets just house rule that any investigator that fails to roll at least one success in an attack is instantly devoured (in addition to all normal FB rules) and be forever done with all this little nit-picks.

One solution fits all.

- Mariana the ex-nun cultist

Dam said:

I'll throw in a couple I came across as I was browsing the KH Allies:

Ithaqua vs Michael McGlen or Vincent Lee + Herbert West. Unless Vincent has a weapon or skill to boost Fight, it will never end. Michael of course gets to roll 3 dice.

Hastur vs Carolyn Fern + Terrible Old Man. Take 2, heal 2, rinse repeat. Hastur can have a -4 mod even if Carolyn is bare naked gui%C3%B1o.gif and Hastur will lose.

EB fix these as well. Guess they needed to put EB into KH as it added allies that break the final combat lengua.gif .

That's another one of those things that bugs me. The Dunwich allies that prevent sanity/stamina damage also must be discarded when the AO awakens. I don't know why they didn't do the same for the two healing allies in Kingsport.

Tibs said:

That's another one of those things that bugs me. The Dunwich allies that prevent sanity/stamina damage also must be discarded when the AO awakens. I don't know why they didn't do the same for the two healing allies in Kingsport.

I can hazard a guess. Heavily clouded opinion of course gran_risa.gif .

Mariana the Ex-Nun Cultist said:

Lets just house rule that any investigator that fails to roll at least one success in an attack is instantly devoured (in addition to all normal FB rules) and be forever done with all this little nit-picks.

One solution fits all.

- Mariana the ex-nun cultist

Or you could just lose the Epic Battle deck. That "you lose" card kinda puts a crimp on the endless part.

Dam said:

Tibs said:

That's another one of those things that bugs me. The Dunwich allies that prevent sanity/stamina damage also must be discarded when the AO awakens. I don't know why they didn't do the same for the two healing allies in Kingsport.

I can hazard a guess. Heavily clouded opinion of course gran_risa.gif .

Yeah, yeah. But don't forget that those two allies can be paired with the investigator of the other healing type, making the investigator immune to Yig's attack.

Or, imagine...

...

having BOTH allies???? sorpresa.gif

Or just Leo Anderson + one or the other against Yig, the right one vs Ithaqua/Hastur. And Leo gets a random one at start.