The Lancer's role would be to exclusively provide an anti-fighter screen to the larger star destroyers, much liker the smaller escort destroyers that provided anti-aircraft screens for the carriers in WW2, and as such would be deployed in a tight formation with the star destroyers. It would be almost totally useless against even corvette level capital ships, with that in mind I could see it having 3, even 4 anti-fighter dice. Like the Strike Cruiser, I think the Lancer and the Gunship are an inevitable release.

I'm predicting the Strike Cruiser for wave 2 along with the Dreadnaught for the Alliance (though the Dreadnaught is slightly larger, the Strike Cruiser is much more modern), and the Lancer no later than wave 3.

Wave 2 was spoiled a little while back. ISD and MC80.

And MC30c Frigate and Raider.

And a bunch of 1-ship squadrons, like the Falcon.

It seems like a given the Lancer-class Frigate will show up in this game eventually. It is the perfect anti-squadron ship, so it will have a very high dice roll. To balance this, it will have really bad anti-ship armament, because most of its weapons were fast-firing turbolasers meant to shoot at X-wings and the like. Therefore, you will have to cover it well. Suggestions? Comments?

Actually, the only armament it had were quad laser cannons specifically designed for starfighters, I don't believe it had any defense against capital ships.

I know this, but I think that they would be able to shoot capital ships, at least at range 1, with like one or two dice.

The Lancer's role would be to exclusively provide an anti-fighter screen to the larger star destroyers, much liker the smaller escort destroyers that provided anti-aircraft screens for the carriers in WW2, and as such would be deployed in a tight formation with the star destroyers. It would be almost totally useless against even corvette level capital ships, with that in mind I could see it having 3, even 4 anti-fighter dice. Like the Strike Cruiser, I think the Lancer and the Gunship are an inevitable release.

I'm predicting the Strike Cruiser for wave 2 along with the Dreadnaught for the Alliance (though the Dreadnaught is slightly larger, the Strike Cruiser is much more modern), and the Lancer no later than wave 3.

Wave 2 was spoiled a little while back. ISD and MC80.

And MC30c Frigate and Raider.

And a bunch of 1-ship squadrons, like the Falcon.

Please, we all know the only ships that matter are STAR DESTROYERS!

We are not likely to see many ships from the EU unless they were in EaW I am thinking. Hell, we are what, 6 waves into X-wing and we have not seen any of the missile boats or whatever from the x-wing series and they are closer to cannon than any book is. By the same token we will not see Neb-bs for the Empire because it is all EU that the empire had them.

Armada has the Gladiators which were EU ships not in Empire at War already.

The Lancer first appeared in WEG as a buggy limited number anti-starfighter ship To make players sith bricks when they see it. it might be better to look at the new FFG RPG for ships that might be included. Empire at war seems to be a safe bet For material.

I doubt we will see the lancer just for the fact It would be hard to include flaws in the curret rules. I hope we dont see it

I doubt think including its flaws would be that hard. Just give it almost no anti-ship dice and a low speed, maybe high wait on commands.

Also the Lancer is already in the RPG but many of the ships announced for Armada are not. Neither Assault Frigate model or Gladiator class Star Destroyer model has appeared in the RPG and the Mon Calamari Frigate hasn't either.

Vigil looks too much like the Raider to the average player. I'd be very shocked if we see it appear purely for that reason, which is a damned shame!

Actually it's quite a lot different from the Raider... Raider is a very, very narrow, thin craft that makes you think of agility and speed, while Vigil to me looks more like improved Acclamator design without the bridge tower and rear "fin" (not talking about the size, tho).

We are not likely to see many ships from the EU unless they were in EaW I am thinking.

The Victory class Star Destroyer and the Assault Frigate are both from the EU.

It terms of the X-wing game, we have the E-wing, Tie Defender, Tie Phantom, HWK-290, Z-95 Headhunter, YT-2400, and the Star Viper, which are all from early 90s EU sources. Not to mention almost everything from the Scum faction.

X-wing ran out of on-screen ships to produce after Wave 3, all they have left to make are EU related ships. By the time Wave 2 hits, (baring the Executor) FFG will have covered every capital ship shown in the Original Trilogy.

Its not a matter of if they produce the Lancer, Gunship and Strike Cruiser, its a matter of when. I believe we'll see one, or all of those in wave 3 or 4.

And depending on how far FFG wants to take squadrons in Armada, we'll start to see more exotic fighters like the Defender, Phantom, E-wing, Scimitar Bomber, Assault Gunboat, and the Skipray Blastboat. I could see the Assault Gunboat, Missile Boat, and the Skipray Blastboat being single unit ships like those we're seeing in the wave 2 Rogues and Villains.

Skipray maybe...but why the Assault Gunboat? it's just a normal fighter, not even bigger than other fighters.

Skipray maybe...but why the Assault Gunboat? it's just a normal fighter, not even bigger than other fighters.

Not bigger, but it has traditionally carried several times the ordnance than other fighters. It would depend on what direction FFG would want to take with it; depending on the source media, they hold between 10 and 40 concussion missiles. I could see the X-wing version having 4 missile slots, don't know how they would do it for Armada.

The Assault Gunboat & Missile Boat are the only two fighters I'm really on the fence about FFG producing in either game, but if they keep producing waves & don't venture into the prequel or sequel trilogy, then the odds are decent that we'll see them.

I dont see it being a problem...i imagine they'd be somewhat similar to the B-Wing in Armada. heavy firepower against both fighters and capital, but slow and quite vulnerable in return.

The Missile Boat is a whole different monster of course....that thing was ludicrous.

Yeah, pretty good bet we'll see the gunboat and tie avenger, but the missile boat would be quite the longshot

I dont see it being a problem...i imagine they'd be somewhat similar to the B-Wing in Armada. heavy firepower against both fighters and capital, but slow and quite vulnerable in return.

The Missile Boat is a whole different monster of course....that thing was ludicrous.

The Missile Boat was so ludicrous that, after TIE Fighter, it never appeared in another EU source again, except in the multiplayer/sim mode for Alliance. I loved flying that **** thing but I don't think we will ever see it in FFG games.

I think we might see a Lancer eventually, but I think the Raider will fill the role of anti-starfighter ship for the Imperials for a while. It will likely have at least 2 anti-starfighter dice and perhaps similar anti-capital dice to the Corvette.

I hope we never see a Phantom squadron in this game. Leave the Phantom in X-wing.

They said the Lancer was too big for epic so they created the Raider. If we see a Lancer it could work as a Neb equivalent.

One cool thing about the scale of Armada is that it lends itself well to using unique models as proxies for existing ship classes. For example, a Nebulon B2 from Shapeways (it'll happen) could easily stand in for a standard Nebulon. I somewhat doubt we will see an official Lancer but someone will make a model and you can always do the "counts as" game.

I could see us having some GR-75s (cheap, weak firepower, support abilities tied to titles) since they were in the movies as well. Especially if it comes with ship specific objectives. That being said, FFG kind of pigeon holed themselves with the objective cards since they are the same size as fighter cards and if they want to include additional objectives in expansions, they would need to print a different size card just for that.

Maybe some fighter sized Imperial assault transports (boarding actions perhaps).

Quick question, besides the ISDs and the MC Cruisers, what in Star Wars would fit the large size base? According to the wiki, victories are 900m long, Gladiators are 500m long, ISDs are 1.6 km in length. Looking at the model, it would be hard to fit a larger model than the VSD on a Medium stand, but I could see something as long as 1000m fitting on it. I could also see 1000m being large.

Most Separatist capital ships would probably be larges and ditto for the Venator Star Destroyers and most other Star Destroyer designs. The Dauntless class Heavy Cruisers for the Rebs and several ships from the New program and later if they decide to use craft from that era of the EU.