Tower of The Hand - Visual Spoilers.In Spanish-- With an exclusive and very Unofficial Translation!!!

By Nine989, in 1. AGoT General Discussion

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Lars said:

Old Ben said:

For my taste there are too much charachters in the chapter pack that are already existing in the LCG enviroment. I´m thinking about Tywin, Eddard, Robert and Jaime. While i know some may argue that we had some of the main charachters every year in a big expansion back in the CCG time, i don´t think that shouldn´t be the claim for a LCG game where the card pool isn´t developing that fast as it used to back in the CCG time. There are still so many charachters in the books which were only printed once or never - so why should it be a good idea to burden the card pool with already existing charachters over and over again?!

I'm right there with you. In fact i started a thread about this after seeing (and figuring) who would be in this cycle of chapter packs before they even came out. I mean we have 2 Maester Aemon's and 2 Grand Measter Pycell's!!!!

I think maybe people didn't realize the impact until they saw all the 'repeats' in one chapter pack. And honestly if this CP didn't have the event cancel in there i might have become the first CP i only buy one of.

I might buy they need shadows versions of all the main characters, but that doesn't explain jkaimer, eddard, 2 aemon's and pycell's and a few others. We could have just gotten those shadow versions (like tyrion, arya, varys, littlefinger, and mel(?)) without having twyin, jaime, renly, etc. Yeah i know they were IN kings landing, but how does that explain balon and half of the targ characters. Also, Renly was in lots of places and there were 100s of people they could have used that were in and more intergral to king's landing.

I'm agree with both of you.

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I agree that I am none too happy about the main reprints. I play this game because I love the characters, and would love to stick as many of them into my decks as possible.

Someone brought up rotation...I am sorry to say, they won't rotate until they do another base set (hopefully, some major time from now) and then - just trust me on this one - they will be printing the main characters in the new core set :)

Absolutely no reason to print them when a very playable version is already available. As people have said, I could understand if it was something to bring in a major card mechanic (like a Shadows version)...but another kneeling card for Lanni?

I guess it is hard to define - but new Cercei (playable )or Tyrion/Tywin (shadow card) I can understand. But if I see another Arya (effectively 3 of already) in the next 2 years I might puke :) And I don't know who has such a boner for GMP over there, always seems to be two versions playable of him when we don't have a version of a ton of people just as important.

Good to see Arryn!

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Hmmmm. I'm with foxpillow on this. i don't mind the multiples of critical characters. These are all important and memorable personalities, adn i don't mind having a couple of options for my decks with them.

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Pycelle is sort of funny, though...I'll grant that much. But the rest of them seem to make sense to me. And King's Landing sort of has a "base set" feel to me, while the last two chapter pack sets seemed like expansions. So I think we're about in line with what we'd normally be getting reprint-wise.

On a somewhat different note, I really think I like both of these Greyjoy weenies...and the new Robert is very very interesting to me (much moreso than Grimace). I like combo cards a great deal, and he's definitely that.

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Like eddard but i'll miss his deadly.

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Nine989 said:

Tourney Mount

Creature - War Horse

Only Knights.

Attached character gains renown.

Challenges: Unattached this card. Then it becomes a character with strength 2, with military and power crests, and with the following rule text: " as long as the tourney mount attacks alone, more than 1 character cannot be declared as a defender". At the end of the phase, if this card is still in play, return it to its owner's hand.

So I've been giving this card some thought, and I'm left with this question: who, exactly, are you supposed to put this on? Most knights either state "No attachments except Weapon" or already have renown (or something like renown). By my count, the only characters in Baratheon or neutral to put this on are Davos, who dies all the time, and Ser Axel. I'm not running knights OOH just so I give them a pony to play with..

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The Kingsguard neutral knights. Just a thought.

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They all say either No attachments, or No attachments except Weapon. I had the same thought.

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jmccarthy said:

Nine989 said:

Tourney Mount

Creature - War Horse

Only Knights.

Attached character gains renown.

Challenges: Unattached this card. Then it becomes a character with strength 2, with military and power crests, and with the following rule text: " as long as the tourney mount attacks alone, more than 1 character cannot be declared as a defender". At the end of the phase, if this card is still in play, return it to its owner's hand.

So I've been giving this card some thought, and I'm left with this question: who, exactly, are you supposed to put this on? Most knights either state "No attachments except Weapon" or already have renown (or something like renown). By my count, the only characters in Baratheon or neutral to put this on are Davos, who dies all the time, and Ser Axel. I'm not running knights OOH just so I give them a pony to play with..

jmccarthy said:

Nine989 said:

Tourney Mount

Creature - War Horse

Only Knights.

Attached character gains renown.

Challenges: Unattached this card. Then it becomes a character with strength 2, with military and power crests, and with the following rule text: " as long as the tourney mount attacks alone, more than 1 character cannot be declared as a defender". At the end of the phase, if this card is still in play, return it to its owner's hand.

So I've been giving this card some thought, and I'm left with this question: who, exactly, are you supposed to put this on? Most knights either state "No attachments except Weapon" or already have renown (or something like renown). By my count, the only characters in Baratheon or neutral to put this on are Davos, who dies all the time, and Ser Axel. I'm not running knights OOH just so I give them a pony to play with..

But the knights asked for ponies when they were little, and to deny them now would just be cruel!

Seriously, though, you're exactly right. Summer Knight could use them I suppose, but that seems extreme. Just make it Summer. We really need more Knights for this card to work.

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Maybe it's a hint of knights to come.

Granted it would be more nedly to have:

No attachments except white satin.

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jmccarthy said:

By my count, the only characters in Baratheon or neutral to put this on are Davos, who dies all the time, and Ser Axel.

Core Set Brienne, Arena Knight, Summer's Champion. Remember, this thing has some serious use beyond granting Renown. Sometimes, all you really want is someone to put it on so you can detach it and have the additional character. Also, if you pay the gold not to return Davos to hand, his save makes him a pretty good candidate for the horse.

jmccarthy said:

I'm not running knights OOH just so I give them a pony to play with.

What about running the attachment OOH? Lannister has 4 unique knights without Renown or the attachment restrictions in LCG. Throw Compelled by the Rock in there and paying 4 for the Renown (plus a character in a pinch) might be worth it to them.

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So far Nate has impressed me with his ability to look forward as well as back. If this card is in the environment, I can't believe there won't be a several good choices for this card coming down the pike... Perhaps even in this set if we are getting all seven of the Kingsguard.

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might be we'll see some additional treaty agendas as well...

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dormouse said:

So far Nate has impressed me with his ability to look forward as well as back. If this card is in the environment, I can't believe there won't be a several good choices for this card coming down the pike... Perhaps even in this set if we are getting all seven of the Kingsguard.

dormouse said:

So far Nate has impressed me with his ability to look forward as well as back. If this card is in the environment, I can't believe there won't be a several good choices for this card coming down the pike... Perhaps even in this set if we are getting all seven of the Kingsguard.

It would be fun if they did print a Gregor Clegane, so you could attach the War Horse to him. Then... the mountain would ride. I agree with you, which is why this card stood out to me with the currently printed cards...

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foxpillow hit on a fun deck I had made ages ago Baratheon Martell Treaty deck full of knights. It was meant as a control deck against all the BAra Rush decks running Knights of the Realm Bara renown, Martell control, a ridiculous amount of knights and a great icon mix. Super fun to play but in the end it was not as reliable against Stark and Greyjoy War of the Five Kings decks and that utterly insane rush.

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jmccarthy said:

Would any of our Spanish-speaking amigos be willing to share the x3, x1, breakdown with us?

1x

Jon Arryn

Eddard Stark

Tywin Lannister

Ser Jaime Lannister

Robert Baratheon

Juicio de la Mano

Aegon´s Hill

Ser Preston Greenfield

City of Secrets.

The Iron Throne

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Thank you sir.

:)

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Thanks you guys!

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wow so they went with flags and not 'sellers' cool! 9x hand's judgment will be awesome for muliple deckbuilders.

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Juicio de la Mano (in Masi's 1x list) = Hand's Judgment.

so unless you buy more than 3x of the CP, you are getting only just enough of the event canceller for a single house. I'm thinking I gotta buy 4x of this CP just so I can place 2 copies of Juicio de la Mano in two houses.

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Lars said:

wow so they went with flags and not 'sellers' cool! 9x hand's judgment will be awesome for muliple deckbuilders.

hand's judgment is x1

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gah! ~stupid capilist pigs (i'm reading a book set in soviet russia circa 1955)

I really really don't want to buy more then 3x of this CP. between this and the INT location hate i'mgoing to have a event pack that i'm going to have to move around.....

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Does anybody want the kings of the sea to be scanned? I don't know if you already have it there.

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Nine989 said:

Does anybody want the kings of the sea to be scanned? I don't know if you already have it there.

I think that i speak for everyone if I say YES. We would very welcome to see all the cards. And maybe if some one could translated it would be best.

Thanks.

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Yes, please!!! :-) I read spanish spoilers but visual ones will be great!!! thx in advance