Timing Questions

By Amante, in CoC Rules Discussion

I have a few timing questions that hopefully someone can answer. :)

1> Players go back and forth doing actions, with the active player getting the first opportunity. If you play a response or disrupt in reaction to the other player's action, do you then get your own opportunity for an action, or does the response / disrupt count as your action, causing action opportunity to pass back over to your opponent?

2> I've read that you can't play actions at any time while the three (or however many) stories are in the middle of being resolved. Apparently the unplayable actions include normal (non-forced) reactions, correct?

A few questions semi-relating to #2:

3a> Are you thus unable to use Monster Hunter's response ability right after, say, winning an Arcane struggle 2 icons to 0, forcing you to wait all the way until after all three stories are resolved to use it? For reference, said ability is "Response: After you win an icon struggle by at least 2 icons, pay 2 to choose and wound a character with skill 2 or lower."

3b> Assuming yes to 3a: with said Monster Hunter response ability (and ones similar to it), would you then get a separate trigger to respond to for every time during the three stories that you won an icon struggle by 2+? i.e., if I won Combat by 2+ at one story and Arcane by +2 at another, after all stories had resolved I would be able to pay 2 and wound a character of my choosing TWICE?

3c> Lastly: if he wasn't involved in the resolution of some or all of the stories in question (because he was at home 'uncommitted' or just at a story where no struggles were won by 2+ icons), would he still be able to use his ability? I'm guessing yes but I just want to make sure.

Many questions for sure. Much thanks in advance to anyone who can answer them. :)

Amante said:

I have a few timing questions that hopefully someone can answer. :)

1> Players go back and forth doing actions, with the active player getting the first opportunity. If you play a response or disrupt in reaction to the other player's action, do you then get your own opportunity for an action, or does the response / disrupt count as your action, causing action opportunity to pass back over to your opponent?

2> I've read that you can't play actions at any time while the three (or however many) stories are in the middle of being resolved. Apparently the unplayable actions include normal (non-forced) reactions, correct?

A few questions semi-relating to #2:

3a> Are you thus unable to use Monster Hunter's response ability right after, say, winning an Arcane struggle 2 icons to 0, forcing you to wait all the way until after all three stories are resolved to use it? For reference, said ability is "Response: After you win an icon struggle by at least 2 icons, pay 2 to choose and wound a character with skill 2 or lower."

3b> Assuming yes to 3a: with said Monster Hunter response ability (and ones similar to it), would you then get a separate trigger to respond to for every time during the three stories that you won an icon struggle by 2+? i.e., if I won Combat by 2+ at one story and Arcane by +2 at another, after all stories had resolved I would be able to pay 2 and wound a character of my choosing TWICE?

3c> Lastly: if he wasn't involved in the resolution of some or all of the stories in question (because he was at home 'uncommitted' or just at a story where no struggles were won by 2+ icons), would he still be able to use his ability? I'm guessing yes but I just want to make sure.

Many questions for sure. Much thanks in advance to anyone who can answer them. :)

I'll take a stab at these. A n00b myself, so probably Marius will sort the mess out cool.gif .

#1: Actions are only actions. Response/Disrupt falls within the scope of the action they are related to. Once you complete an action, including all responses and disrupts, only then does the action opportunity pass to your opponent.

#2: Yes.

#3a: Yes. After all the stories are complete, the opportunity to activate responses kicks in.

#3b: Rules say once per trigger. This bit I'm not that sure about TBH. There was a recent thread on triggers/responses. Perhaps that applies here as well.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efid=37&efcid=4&efidt=153601

#3c: I don't see anything in the wording that allows him to do that only when committed to a story.

I'm gonna try this reply again.

As an aside, is there any way to make this worthless editing box into a WYSIWYG mode?

#2) - Correct. While stories are being resolved, only Forced Response and Disrupt can be played. See page 13.

#3a) - Correct. You must wait untill all stories are resolved, then play the Response. This assumes, of course, that the character is still useful ofter resolving all stories.

#3b) - Almost correct. You would have to pay four, and it would have to be in the form of two and two; i.e., two from this domain, and two from that one. Could not play four from a single domain. Additionaly, I would assume that you could use it for each icon struggle at each story, no matter the type. That is to say, if you win all three terror struggles, you can trigger it three times, even though they are the same type.

#3c) - I see nothing to gainsay your interpertation.