New Player; Elena (Fire, Good)

By saraneal, in UFS Deck Building

I've been playing UFS for a while, but I just got an account here on the forums. I guess I'm finally starting to get serious about the game, since a few of my friends and I are going to Worlds.

I've been working on my Elena deck for a while; thought I'd post it on here and see what suggestions you guys have. I'm still a pretty new player, so any advice I can get is appreciated.

Characters:
1x Elena (Fire, Good)

Foundations:
4x Amy’s Assistance 2/4 +1M (Fire, Good)
4x Commitment to Excellence 2/6 +1L (Fire)
2x Savage Fighter 2/5 no block (Fire, Good)
2x White Magic 1/5 +3M (Fire, Good)
4x Wind Dance 2/4 +3M (Fire, Good)
4x Cursed Blood 1/4 +3M (Good)
2x Empire’s Ruin 1/5 +2M (Fire, Good)
4x Healer 1/4 +1H (Fire, Good)
4x Manifest Destiny 1/4 +1L (Fire)
3x Torn Hero 1/5 no block (Good)

Assets:
2x A Tradition of Fighting 2/4 +2M (Fire, Good)
3x Lynette's Shop 3/6 +1M (Infinity)

Attacks:
3x Dragon’s Flame 5/3 +1M (Fire, Good)
3x Knight Breaker 5/3 +0H (Fire)
4x Midnight Launcher 4/3 no block (Fire)
4x Sweeping Tail Strike 3/3 +2M (Fire, Good)
4x Mark of the Beast 5/3 +2M (Fire, Good)
4x Swooping Hawk Lunge 5/3 +2M (Fire, Good)

Things I’m thinking about:
Fight or Flight 2/4 +2M

I also plan on adding a fourth Dragon’s Flame and Knight Breaker before Worlds.

There are a few problems I'd like to try and fix, like the fact that only 2 of my attacks have both of Elena's symbols. I'd also like some higher control checks, which is one of the reasons I'm thinking of adding the Lynette's Shops. I'm also not running any Actions, or Terrains, nor do I have any way of dealing with my opponents Assets.

Help?

I'm not sure if this will help you out alot but consider switching out swooping hawk lunge or the other attack to put in a ichi no tachi. I know it doesn't share 2 symbols with Elena but with her support you can make it work. Ichi no Tachi is just so helpful putting away a problem foundation when you go for the kill or blocks multiples defensively and its a 3 check with 2 mid block.

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KawaiiMistress said:

I'm not sure if this will help you out alot but consider switching out swooping hawk lunge or the other attack to put in a ichi no tachi. I know it doesn't share 2 symbols with Elena but with her support you can make it work. Ichi no Tachi is just so helpful putting away a problem foundation when you go for the kill or blocks multiples defensively and its a 3 check with 2 mid block.

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I don't know how useful this would be. I have Mark of the Beast to deal with Multiples, and both Manifest Destiny and Torn Hero to commit foudations.

The 3 check is definitely nice though. If it had both good and fire, I'd probably run it instead of Mark of the Beast.

Oh I had no idea since you didn't list Mark of the Beast in your original deck list.

KawaiiMistress said:

Oh I had no idea since you didn't list Mark of the Beast in your original deck list.

My bad. Somehow I managed to leave it off the list.
It's on there now.

I would seriously consider running some of Sigfried's new support so that you may continuously give yourself (and your opponent, should you choose) a new symbol for your turns. This would serioiusly help you activate her 3rd ability, which is quite good, imo.

RockStar said:

I would seriously consider running some of Sigfried's new support so that you may continuously give yourself (and your opponent, should you choose) a new symbol for your turns. This would serioiusly help you activate her 3rd ability, which is quite good, imo.

yeah but what abilities would you suggest using? Multiple isnt really that great when your attacks arent more then 5 damage stun 1? id rather spend the momentum on something else.....

as far as powerful there isnt enough momentum generation for that and what else is there.......

Da_ghetto_gamer said:

RockStar said:

I would seriously consider running some of Sigfried's new support so that you may continuously give yourself (and your opponent, should you choose) a new symbol for your turns. This would serioiusly help you activate her 3rd ability, which is quite good, imo.

yeah but what abilities would you suggest using? Multiple isnt really that great when your attacks arent more then 5 damage stun 1? id rather spend the momentum on something else.....

as far as powerful there isnt enough momentum generation for that and what else is there.......

Uhm...running Spinning Beat and then giving it an extra instance of Multiple seems pretty darn good to me. serio.gif

RockStar said:

Da_ghetto_gamer said:

RockStar said:

I would seriously consider running some of Sigfried's new support so that you may continuously give yourself (and your opponent, should you choose) a new symbol for your turns. This would serioiusly help you activate her 3rd ability, which is quite good, imo.

yeah but what abilities would you suggest using? Multiple isnt really that great when your attacks arent more then 5 damage stun 1? id rather spend the momentum on something else.....

as far as powerful there isnt enough momentum generation for that and what else is there.......

Uhm...running Spinning Beat and then giving it an extra instance of Multiple seems pretty darn good to me. serio.gif

that is pretty good but wheres the momentum going to come from to make 3 mulitple copies if 3 attacks are played in a turn its probably 2 attacks pumped by elena and then a dragons flame or a knight breaker and both seem like they would kill pretty much on there own

There's a fair momentum generation foundation with good stats right up your street : White Magic.

Nekuro said:

There's a fair momentum generation foundation with good stats right up your street : White Magic.

what would you sugest taking out for it?

this is my gfs deck so im kinda as much interested in it as she is lol

Personally, I'd either side Torn Hero or White Magic itself and use it depending on the situation '^_^ But my advice isn't really worth much...

-4 swooping hawk lunge

-4 moon shadow

-2 mark of the beast

+1 dragon's flame

+1 knight breaker

+4 lynete's

+4 fight or flight

hope this helps.

Cut Prime Moon Shadow for Sweeping Tail Strike. Throw a Dragon Flame out earlygame, they won't block a 6M6 attack right? Then next turn, play out all the moves you want, but end with a mid weapon -> Sweeping Tail Strike -> Dragon's Flame out of your momentum for free, for plenty of damage

I disagree with trane -- Lynette's might not be a bad idea, but it's a 3diff asset that isn't guaranteed to be anything, and Fight or Flight would only be good defensively for this deck -- most of his attacks, sans Midnight Launcher, would only get +2 or +3 damage compared to simply using Elena's free Es on them.

I would also suggest you cut Swooping Hawk Lunge for Ichi no Tachi -- while Manifest and Torn Hero are commit effects, there are likely to be a lot of different things you want to commit, and you won't always have those cards out beforehand. Having added Multiple protection is just icing on the cake

It's probably a good idea to find room for your 4th Knight Breaker [if you can acquire one anyway lol] but 4 Dragon Flames is IMO too much. It's not an exceptional attack without its combo, and its combo is much harder to setup than Knight Breaker.

one last thing... Unstoppable Conviction is pretty bad. : If you want anti-discard, run Warrior's Path [even though it'll screw up your combos for the E ability], if you want damage pumps run Savage Fighter or Ymirfang or something

trane said:

-4 swooping hawk lunge

-4 moon shadow

-2 mark of the beast

+1 dragon's flame

+1 knight breaker

+4 lynete's

+4 fight or flight

hope this helps.

So if you get rid of all the mid attacks then how do you play the combo enhance on dragons flame?

Also fight or flight doesnt help anymore then any other damage pump because thats what elena is for, fight or flight only would give 2 or 3 damage in most cases unless its a midnight launcher.....and defensively you have healer and amys to deal with high damage attacks

However i do agree with the lynettes shops and adding the +1 dragons flame and knight breaker and im sure if they werent so hard to get then they would be in here as well

Alright, I changed some stuff around before our store tournament earlier today (updated in my original post). I like the White Magics; it's nice having momentum for Torn Hero. I didn't get a chance to use the Sweeping Tail Strike combo though.

The Lynette's Shops really came in handy. But it's definitely true that they're not guaranteed to be anything. More than once I had one in hand that I didn't play because I was waiting for my opponent to play a foundation I could use. I'm going to keep at least 3 though, mainly because of the 6 check.
I know they're going to be very helpful at Worlds.

I miss the Prime Moon Shadows though. They were my only way to gain vitality.

Ditched the Unstoppable Convictions, and it was a good call.

Seriously thinking about Ichi No Tachi now. The only reason I haven't replaced my Mark of the Beasts with them is because I use the MOTB enhance for +4 damage a lot now, since I have momentum from White Magic.

Also, the combo for Dragon's Flame isn't that much harder to set up than Knight Breaker in my deck. All my mid attacks are weapons except Dragon's Flame itself. Plus, the combo is so much better.

Thanks for the suggestions, keep 'em coming.

mysterious stance may be a good addition to help with the blocking

ONe foundation you sould run as a staple in an elena deck: Needs no ally. give yourself extra symbols and then jack damage to kingdom come

^To be fair, giving himself an extra symbol with the current attack lineup would only enable the 2nd E on two attacks, Midnight Launcher and Knight Breaker. Giving himself the 3rd symbol for his other attacks isn't really worth it, because the best he could do is Multiple:1 -- and the best he can get from that is a 5M4 Dragon Flame, and that costs a momentum...