UFS needs to reobtain some testicular fortitude.

By Tagrineth, in UFS General Discussion

We need more Blazing Cadenza/ Buffalo Headbutt/ Low Dash-esque attacks, basically, attacks that allow you to play more attacks easier.

I don't quite see how a person uses Hilde. I don't see how her character card helps anything. What am I missing?

you reduce your own damage, then double speed and dmg based on dmg reduced

i thought you could only do the enhancement on her card once. That would only give you +2 speed and damage.

darklogos said:

i thought you could only do the enhancement on her card once. That would only give you +2 speed and damage.

Yes, but that's only if you just use HER ability. You pack your deck so full of damage reduction cards that serve two purposes, keeping her fragile self alive by reducing her opponent's attack damage, then used in tandem with her ability to reduce her own attack then double boost it back up to ridiculous levels of damage/speed.

darklogos said:

I don't quite see how a person uses Hilde. I don't see how her character card helps anything. What am I missing?

Generally speaking, what people do is they use Lynx Tail. Reduce it to teh negative sauce, use Healer to return it to printed damage, Cobra Blow it high, Hilde for the finishing touch.

first turn 23 high 17dmg is not only possible but easy

I didn't think her symbols had damage reduction on that scale.

Just look at Amy's Assistance and other such cards ^^ Good and Order are pretty good at that kind of game :P

darklogos said:

I didn't think her symbols had damage reduction on that scale.

....you didn't think Good had damage reduction? That's kinda most of what that resource does, historically.

Cascade said:

We need more Blazing Cadenza/ Buffalo Headbutt/ Low Dash-esque attacks, basically, attacks that allow you to play more attacks easier.


+1. You had me at Blazing Cadenza (where have all the awesome 1-checks gone?), but Headbutt as well.

I'd love to see a new versionof Strong Punch (Swooping Hawk Lunge does not count).

Second controversial opinion: I'd like to see a return of really good character-only attacks, on the level of Bird of Prey, but not quite on the level of Suzaku. For example, what if Chain Throw, arguably the best attack ever printed (Ira-Spinta wins it in MY book, but that's me) had been Cody Only?

Other noteworthy attacks in this line of thought:
Dread Carnival
Hellcat
Crystal Rose
6 Swallow Flash
Hyper Bomb (this card was nuts; HYPAH BAHM)
My Tanegashima (this attack was always underrated, imo; but with The Unbeatable and vanity gone, Sankuro's uttter garbage ;_;)
Mega Slash (I SAID IT)
Rage of the 8 Maidens
Buster Wolf
Turning Suicide

Twilight Embrace and Rage of the Dragon are good starts, but we need more.

And ****, do I miss being able to play Sankuro =(

MegaGeese said:

Cascade said:

We need more Blazing Cadenza/ Buffalo Headbutt/ Low Dash-esque attacks, basically, attacks that allow you to play more attacks easier.


+1. You had me at Blazing Cadenza (where have all the awesome 1-checks gone?), but Headbutt as well.

I'd love to see a new versionof Strong Punch (Swooping Hawk Lunge does not count).

Second controversial opinion: I'd like to see a return of really good character-only attacks, on the level of Bird of Prey, but not quite on the level of Suzaku. For example, what if Chain Throw, arguably the best attack ever printed (Ira-Spinta wins it in MY book, but that's me) had been Cody Only?

Other noteworthy attacks in this line of thought:
Dread Carnival
Hellcat
Crystal Rose
6 Swallow Flash
Hyper Bomb (this card was nuts; HYPAH BAHM)
My Tanegashima (this attack was always underrated, imo; but with The Unbeatable and vanity gone, Sankuro's uttter garbage ;_;)
Mega Slash (I SAID IT)
Rage of the 8 Maidens
Buster Wolf
Turning Suicide

Twilight Embrace and Rage of the Dragon are good starts, but we need more.

And ****, do I miss being able to play Sankuro =(

Yes- yes -yes MORE CHARACTER ONLY ATTACKS, why is Gen doing a Psycho Crusher, even without a multiple?!?!

- dut

I don't care about the mix and match attacks thing so much, I just miss really good character only attacks.

Those were just the more aggressive ones that I could think of. I'm sure I missed some. God knows Turning Suicide and Surreptitious Punch of the Thundergod would be welcomed by me. Hell, I'd wouldn't even mind something like Final Destruction, so long as it's not ALSO accompanied by Mancles >_<

MegaGeese said:

I don't care about the mix and match attacks thing so much, I just miss really good character only attacks.

Those were just the more aggressive ones that I could think of. I'm sure I missed some. God knows Turning Suicide and Surreptitious Punch of the Thundergod would be welcomed by me. Hell, I'd wouldn't even mind something like Final Destruction, so long as it's not ALSO accompanied by Mancles >_<

Hehe, GOOD (not broken) attacks is what we need. Look at that Tekken UR. WTF!?! permanent handsize drop.

I think with Combo the quality of attacks increasing is only an inevitability, granted the draw precedent minimizing their frequency balances them out.

Can't wait for new sets.

- dut

Tagrineth said:

darklogos said:

I didn't think her symbols had damage reduction on that scale.

....you didn't think Good had damage reduction? That's kinda most of what that resource does, historically.

I'm rather noobish. I'm learning different tactics. I got some foresight because I saw the value of death before the nerfs. But I still have rule problems and don't understand how everything works.

dutpotd said:

MegaGeese said:

I don't care about the mix and match attacks thing so much, I just miss really good character only attacks.

Those were just the more aggressive ones that I could think of. I'm sure I missed some. God knows Turning Suicide and Surreptitious Punch of the Thundergod would be welcomed by me. Hell, I'd wouldn't even mind something like Final Destruction, so long as it's not ALSO accompanied by Mancles >_<

Hehe, GOOD (not broken) attacks is what we need. Look at that Tekken UR. WTF!?! permanent handsize drop.

I think with Combo the quality of attacks increasing is only an inevitability, granted the draw precedent minimizing their frequency balances them out.

Can't wait for new sets.

- dut

the combo is king only though, so no perminant hand unless your king (and have a smaller handsize)

Ira-Spinta ought to be Jedah-only. Jedah's abilities aren't bad, especially with Order's insane ability to build (CBlood, Buddhist) and draw (Aqua, Bigger).

No. Jedah is horrible and you know it. Even with A New Low and Liquid Form on the opponent's turn.

MegaGeese said:

No. Jedah is horrible and you know it. Even with A New Low and Liquid Form on the opponent's turn.

Wow, what a creative idea lol.

Eh, don't be so myopic. His R is pretty nifty. Yeah, it's heavily-costed, but it's worth it. It can keep your opponent's BRTs, etc, away from play =).

kiit said:

dutpotd said:

MegaGeese said:

I don't care about the mix and match attacks thing so much, I just miss really good character only attacks.

Those were just the more aggressive ones that I could think of. I'm sure I missed some. God knows Turning Suicide and Surreptitious Punch of the Thundergod would be welcomed by me. Hell, I'd wouldn't even mind something like Final Destruction, so long as it's not ALSO accompanied by Mancles >_<

Hehe, GOOD (not broken) attacks is what we need. Look at that Tekken UR. WTF!?! permanent handsize drop.

I think with Combo the quality of attacks increasing is only an inevitability, granted the draw precedent minimizing their frequency balances them out.

Can't wait for new sets.

- dut

the combo is king only though, so no perminant hand unless your king (and have a smaller handsize)

well its not like they are going to print him with like 8hs or anything that would be pointless hes going to have a 5 maybe 6HS but im pretty sure itll be 5

King's Reverse DDT, jeebus. T1 drop Body of Souls + junk to guarantee check, T2 begin playing Reverse DDT every turn for the rest of the game. You pass that 6, tap 1, and get minimum 4 damage on the board every turn while getting significant card advantage... seems kinda good. I like that it isn't a T2 skullcrusher a la Feline Spike, but still makes some attacks enter the card pool (and some blocks, maybe even some Reversals) every turn.

Body of Souls?

Bishplz. I'm gonna be using Ralf. Simply spam them every turn, and watch as your opponent eventually draws no cards

If I get some, I'm going to build a Makoto All/Good with Body of Souls and Reverse DDT ^^ Should rock house and not be too long to kill :P

Also...

why does it have to be testicular fortitude? Why not...labia fortitude, or cervical fortitude?

Hayamachop said:

first turn 23 high 17dmg is not only possible but easy

Not to mention the turn 1's 28L38 with the PERFECT hand going second.

Lynx Tail + its E (+4 spd, -4 dmg), Dual Wielding (+4 spd, -4 dmg), Hilde small E (-1 spd, -1 dmg), Hilde big E (+18 spd, +18 dmg), Cobra Blow Action side (+25 dmg) = 28L38 turn 1 for topdecking 4, 5 and 5.

Of course, there are way too many answers, some being Healer, Holding Ground, No Memories, Assassination Arts, Spiritual Center, Fight or Flight, Tag Along, Rashotep... but other answers can be more creative, like American Made + low block, KOF2006 + Tira's Contract and other fun things.