I really want to try some proxy cards to see if I care about the new Advanced cards and pilots.

I don't think there can be any good X1 lists until Juno Eclipse's pilot ability is spoiled.

Vader, predator (or outmaneuver), engine upgrade, advanced targeting computer (37)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Vader ATC, Vessery and two named ties( Backstabber&dark cure or night beast). Maarek steel fits well also

3x Tempest + X/1 + Accuracy Corrector + Cluster Missiles

2x Academy Pilot

Second Fiddles

Squint Screen

Don't know about good... but:

Colonel Vessery (35)

Tempest Squadron Pilot (21)
Fire-Control System (0)
TIE/x1 (0)

Tempest Squadron Pilot (21)
Fire-Control System (0)
TIE/x1 (0)

Tempest Squadron Pilot (21)
Fire-Control System (0)
TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 98

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Vader, predator (or outmaneuver), engine upgrade, advanced targeting computer (37)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

This will be the first thing I try (it's really the most obvious list). I have about a million other ideas as well.

I just can't wait to see what Juno Eclipse's ability is!

Vader, predator (or outmaneuver), engine upgrade, advanced targeting computer (37)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

This will be the first thing I try (it's really the most obvious list). I have about a million other ideas as well.

I just can't wait to see what Juno Eclipse's ability is!

I am on pins and needles waiting for raider to drop, and I don't even want the raider. For me, Juno Eclipse just happens to cost 80 dollars, and somehow I'm okay with that. On the bright side she comes with this big useless model of a pseudo-star destroyer. Guess that's something.

Almost any list that Vader is central to should be pretty good. He's going to be pretty bonkers post-buff.

I call this "Missiles, Missiles ^*@(ing Everywhere":

Tempest + Title + FCS + Cluster Missiles x 4

It has the potential to roll 24 modified red dice in a single round. It might be the first squad were you don't want to focus fire. If you have 4 enemy targets, attack each with the Alpha, then mop up whatever is left.

Vader, predator (or outmaneuver), engine upgrade, advanced targeting computer (37)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

I flew a handful of games with this right after the Raider was spoiled and really liked it. It performed very predictably because between having an Accuracy Corrector and being able to take Defensive actions it minimized variance from the dice.

I have a couple here:

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/131310-new-player-quick-start-list-guide/

6 TIE Vader Swarm

• Darth Vader + TIE/x1 + Adv. Targeting Computer + Engine Upgrade
• Howlrunner
• 4x Academy Pilots

Points: 100
Difficulty: (3/5) Medium. Good damage output, and Vader with Engine Upgrade is an Ace.

The Three Amigos (Vader / Soontir Fel / Turr)

• Darth Vader + Predator + TIE/x1 + Adv. Targeting Computer + Engine Upgrade
• Soontir Fel + Push the Limit + Royal Guard TIE + Autothrusters + Targeting Computer
• Turr Phennir + Veteran Instincts + Autothrusters

Points: 99
History: Vader / Fel / Turr combination popular during wave 2. Updated here with new upgrades.
Difficulty: (5/5) Very Hard. Extremely low hit point list, unforgiving to errors.
Alternate options: Downgrade Predator to Lone Wolf on Vader, and Upgrade Targeting Computer to Hull Upgrade on Soontir Fel (still 99 points).

Whisper / Vader / Soontir Fel

• Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device
• Darth Vader + TIE/x1 + Adv. Targeting Computer
• Soontir Fel + Push the Limit + Autothrusters

Points: 99
Difficulty: (4/5) Hard. Another all PS9 list but with Whisper instead of Turr for more firepower. Vader is less maneuverable.

Vader / Soontir Fel / Jax

• Darth Vader + TIE/x1 + Adv. Targeting Computer
• Soontir Fel + Push the Limit + Autothrusters + Royal Guard TIE + Hull Upgrade
• Carnor Jax + Push the Limit + Autothrusters + Royal Guard TIE + Hull Upgrade

Points: 99
Difficulty: (4/5) Hard. Jax flies in close at range 1 to disrupt enemy action economy.
Alternate options: Equip Stealth Device instead of Hull Upgrade on Soontir Fel.

Vader's Entourage

• Darth Vader + Predator + TIE/x1 + Adv. Targeting Computer + Engine Upgrade
• 3x Tempest Squadron Pilot + TIE/x1 + Accuracy Corrector

Points: 100
Difficulty: (2/5) Easy. A fairly forgiving list to fly, the 3 Tempests should use their actions defensively and attempt to stay at range 2. Vader is the only counter to Aces or arc dodgers, so keep him safe.
Alternate options: Drop Predator (3 points) for Lone Wolf (2 points) on Vader, and save 1 point for an initiative bid.

You could try the old Super Vader that I used to run back in the day.

(37) Darth Vader

-X1

-Adv Targeting Comp

-Dardevil

-Engine Upgrade

He can move like a combination of Psycho Tycho and Whisper. Boost+Daredevil for insane speed, or Barrel Roll + Daredevil for insane repositioning.

Take the old decimator/phantom and replace whisper with Vader. Top tier list.

Vader w/ VI, title/adv computer, proton rocket, EU

Chiranaeu w/ predator,gunner,isard, EU

Done.

Vader, predator (or outmaneuver), engine upgrade, advanced targeting computer (37)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

This will be the first thing I try (it's really the most obvious list). I have about a million other ideas as well.

I just can't wait to see what Juno Eclipse's ability is!

I am on pins and needles waiting for raider to drop, and I don't even want the raider. For me, Juno Eclipse just happens to cost 80 dollars, and somehow I'm okay with that. On the bright side she comes with this big useless model of a pseudo-star destroyer. Guess that's something.

Yeah the only way they will get me to fly the new advanced is to allow me to buy it without the big useless ship for 2 hr games I wont play

Vader, predator (or outmaneuver), engine upgrade, advanced targeting computer (37)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

Tempest, accuracy corrector (21)

I flew a handful of games with this right after the Raider was spoiled and really liked it. It performed very predictably because between having an Accuracy Corrector and being able to take Defensive actions it minimized variance from the dice.

Well I may not be interested in buying a Raider but two more Tie Advanced

I have a couple here:

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/131310-new-player-quick-start-list-guide/

Vader's Entourage

• Darth Vader + Predator + TIE/x1 + Adv. Targeting Computer + Engine Upgrade
• 3x Tempest Squadron Pilot + TIE/x1 + Accuracy Corrector

Points: 100

Difficulty: (2/5) Easy. A fairly forgiving list to fly, the 3 Tempests should use their actions defensively and attempt to stay at range 2. Vader is the only counter to Aces or arc dodgers, so keep him safe.

Alternate options: Drop Predator (3 points) for Lone Wolf (2 points) on Vader, and save 1 point for an initiative bid.

Thanks for posting an easy one, the others are beyond my skill level.

TIE Vader Swarm

• Darth Vader + TIE/x1 + Adv. Targeting Computer + Engine Upgrade
• Howlrunner
• 4x Academy Pilots

Points: 100

Difficulty: (3/5) Medium. Good damage output, and Vader with Engine Upgrade is an Ace.

Ran about the same but gave Vader Predator, and Stealth to the Academy Pilots. Vader with EU in the end game is nice.

The "new" Vader is a beast with ATC. Proxied him, and I can't wait to own those cards.

Thanks for the list list, MajorJuggler, super helpful! And I love the difficulty rating. It's telling me that my goal of Soontir/Turr/Vader was maybe outside my skill envelope.

How many would consider prockets on vader?

Vader with ATC has an effectively 6 dice attack if he can get range one with target lock and focus. Toss in predator for a re-roll....

I want so badly for ordnance to be worth it.

Thanks for the list list, MajorJuggler, super helpful! And I love the difficulty rating. It's telling me that my goal of Soontir/Turr/Vader was maybe outside my skill envelope.

Practice makes perfect!

ATC only works on primary weapon attacks. However, its not horrible with Prockets. You can always just spend the TL to make the Procket attack better if need be. I think 5 dice with Focus + TL is likely better than 3 w/ focus and the added ATC crit.

the new Tie Advance with AC are going to be sturdy fuckers that aren't absolutely gimped on damage, but will struggle against higher agility (guaranteed 2 hits is ******* sweet, but 3 agility especially with defensive tokens will cancel a large portion of it)

ATC aces are going to be very interesting. The Advance is not as maneuverable as your phantoms or interceptors, but it is bulkier and the guaranteed critical is just ******* sexy