Played in a really fun event this weekend at the MM retail store in St Louis. Great event with pizza provided and over $100 of scum ships as prizes all for a $5 entry fee. I had never played in a competitive setting before so I went with the simplest of lists, BBBBZ.

Out of around 30 entrants, I managed third place and scored a shiny new Scyk as well as some alt-art cards. The event was only three rounds with pairings based on record and MoV. Tabled my first two opponents and lost a close one at time in round three.

BBBBZ is a strong (if boring) tourney list. I debated Adv Sensors or Acc Corrector in place of the Z but the old Z-95 seems like the way to go. The Z-95 doesn't attract a great deal of fire and can supply an extra arc when trying to pin down a slippery foe. The lack of control from this list could really hurt against someone who plans on taking out one ship and then running away until time is called but throwing down a list with 36 hit points and 14 red dice can intimidate a lot of lists.

Round 1

Good report and congrates. You should post it in the actual bat rep sub forum, though.

I'm bit low on Bs, got only 1 could something like BXXXA with refit work as well as this?

His Decimator ended up at range 1 of an injured B-wing and rolled 1 hit. Of course I manage to roll an evade triggering gunner and his second roll brings the B-wing down to 2 hull. Vader drops a crit and of course it is the dreaded direct hit depriving me of a four dice attack. After some pretty good flying on both sides, time is called with three hull points left on the Decimator. Result 25-44 loss.

Out of curiosity, how much health did you have left on your 2 B-wings and Z-95?

His Decimator ended up at range 1 of an injured B-wing and rolled 1 hit. Of course I manage to roll an evade triggering gunner and his second roll brings the B-wing down to 2 hull. Vader drops a crit and of course it is the dreaded direct hit depriving me of a four dice attack. After some pretty good flying on both sides, time is called with three hull points left on the Decimator. Result 25-44 loss.

Out of curiosity, how much health did you have left on your 2 B-wings and Z-95?

Z was untouched. One B was down to 2 hull IIRC because he had gotten the PS zero crit. The other B was untouched I believe. If the game played to completion it would have been very close.

Just a little bit of information for future Tournaments. If your opponent wants to concede, they are agreeing to a complete loss, meaning they get zero points destroyed and you get 100 points destroyed (i.e. 200 MOV score for that round). That could have been how the TO was scoring points, so you never know.

Z was untouched. One B was down to 2 hull IIRC because he had gotten the PS zero crit. The other B was untouched I believe. If the game played to completion it would have been very close.

Yup, got to kill that big ship, otherwise you pretty much automatically lose in a timed match. If there were partial points you would actually have been ahead 76 - 60 at that point, assuming his TIE was at full health.

Just a little bit of information for future Tournaments. If your opponent wants to concede, they are agreeing to a complete loss, meaning they get zero points destroyed and you get 100 points destroyed (i.e. 200 MOV score for that round). That could have been how the TO was scoring points, so you never know.

That is not correct.

Conceding is equivalent hitting an auto-destruct button on all your ships.

It does not affect how many points you destroyed before conceding and does not automatically give your opponent an MoV of 200.

If I am playing someone and destroyed 67 points, but am down to 2 injured Academy Pilots against an untouched Bounty Hunter and I concede, I will have destroyed 67 points and my opponent will have destroyed 100 points. This gives me an MoV of 67 and my opponent an MoV of 133.

For reference, the Tournament Rules state: "If a player concedes the match, treat all of his remaining ships as destroyed."

There is no mention of them giving up the points they destroyed before conceding.

Z was untouched. One B was down to 2 hull IIRC because he had gotten the PS zero crit. The other B was untouched I believe. If the game played to completion it would have been very close.

Yup, got to kill that big ship, otherwise you pretty much automatically lose in a timed match. If there were partial points you would actually have been ahead 76 - 60 at that point, assuming his TIE was at full health.

You've got to kill that big ship to win a timed match or an untimed match.

Kidding aside, do you know what your last game's opponent's MOV before you played him? I was at that tournament on the other undefeated table, and I had heard he'd been doing well (he also beat the 4th place player if I remember correctly).

You've got to kill that big ship to win a timed match or an untimed match.

Yes but in an untimed match the optimal way to achieve this is frequently to go after the surrounding ships first. Unless your opponent plants the Fat Ship at range 1 of your entire fleet, then it is a no-brainer decision. In a timed match the Fat Ship can stay at range and play keep-away, drastically increasing the effectiveness of the support ships. There is actually some underlying math here that points to a higher squad-level jousting efficiency if you have a Fat ship in a timed match.

That is in addition to whether or not it is "fair" to get Admiral or Han down to 1HP and lose MoV and the match outright on time because he killed a single Z-95 or TIE Fighter.

I understand. It was a joke, but a bad one I suppose. I think half points for half damage might be okay in the game, but that's not really a discussion for this thread.

I understand. It was a joke, but a bad one I suppose.

Ha ha, yeah. The shortest path being a straight line theory doesn't always work in timed matches.