in a previous thread 'the Imperiums Big Lies', member Ordo Hydra asked about the Primarchs, and that got me asking the question also.

Does anybody have any ideas what they could be doing in the current 40K timeline.

Jaghatai Khan went off chasing Dark Eldar, some accounts having him being sucked into a warp portal.

Corax, after locking himself in Ravenspire begging forgiveness, took off in the direction of the eye of Terror. his last recorded words apparently were `never more

Leman Russ, during a Great Feast, said he will return in the End Time and went into the Eye of Terror.

Vulkan, who opposed the Codex Astartes, did a Leman Russ. he`ll be back in the End Time. and was never seen from again.

Lion El Jonson and Roboute are said to be recovering from fatal wounds.

anybody care to throw caution to the winds and make some assumptions

in my minds eye, i see them as looking at what the Imperium was becoming a religious cult steeped in superstition was too much. knowing they had failed to protect their fathers vision. knowing they had failed to protect their father. they decided to leave the Imperium to its own designs, knowing they were powerless to stop what was coming. maybe they fight against the Imperium in their own way. surely they fight their own private war with the Traitor Legions. maybe one of them had met an Eldar Phoenix Lord and found common ground in an intractable common foe, that being the Chaos Powers.

after reading Horus Heresy Legion some time back...that got me thinking once again on Alpharius. and the Alpha Legion. Alpharius was killed by Roboute. even that is suspect amongst the Ultramarines, given the Alphas penchant for deciet. and what of Omegon, the twin. Loyalists or Traitors. it leads me to think of the Legion of the Damned. could they perhaps be Alpha Legion elements or maybe even Fallen Dark Angels....

weigh in

I think they are waiting for the emperor to rise again from his throne for the final battle for the galaxy.

Russ' armour and weapons were apparently found outside a temple of Khorne, but Russ himself is apparently sleeping in the Rock, along with Jonson and Luthor.

Khan was apparently captured by the dark eldar, and is alluded to in a short story as being the greatest prize of a particular haemonculus, and has been tortured near non-stop for several centuries without breaking.

The Legion of the Damned were given an actual chapter of origin a while back- they were Fire Hawks, iirc, part of the 21st Founding (also known as the Cursed Founding), and were lost in the warp, infected by a psychic-plague, and reappeared 20 years later almost looking like zombies, with increased psychic potential, and new black armour (because it's badass). That doesn't necessarily preclude Alpha Legion infiltrators, or bands of the Fallen (or indeed, anyother group of renegades) from posing as the Legion of the Damned.

Alasseo said:

Oooh, now that is interesting. Where'd you stumble across those tidbits?

The bit about Russ' armour is in the 1st Chaos codex for 3rd ed, but the suggestion that Russ is in the Rock is elsewhere- if memory serves it was one of a number of secrets, plots and lies mentioned by a Lord of Change, in either Eye of Terror or one of the old short story anthologies. Unfortunately, I can't for the life of me remember which one. I intend to get all of the ones I've bought over the years and find out, don't worry.

The bit about the Khan is suggested, but not outright stated in a number of short stories, at least one of which was reprinted in Let The Galaxy Burn! There are scenes taking place within the dungeon of a haemonculus, in which there is a bound, bloody and much scarred figure attached to one wall. He is not named, but is described as being incredibly large, even for a space marine, and remaining defiant even after decades, if not centuries of torture. There was some speculation that the figure was either Captain Cortez, or Jaghatai Khan.