One starter box or two?

By Orsonius, in Star Wars: Armada

Is this a sort of game where its advisable to purchace two box set? Had to do that in X wing but added it later on, would love to avoid having to wait for a reprint...

If you are asking this question, you want a second starter. In the words of the Emperor "give in"

Depends on a few things.

Do you want multiples of the Same ships from the Core set?

Do you want to be able to play with someone who doesn't have his own game.

It's not advisable to, not advisable not to either, up to you and you gaming situation really.

Since I'm the primary purchaser for things like this in my playgroup, and the tournament format was revealed to be 400 points, I realized buying two core sets was the way to go. I could feasibly see myself running 3x VSD in a list at 400 points, even after the wave 2 stuff.

Now the problem for me will be figuring out how many of each small ship expansions to get. I could run 7-8 CR90s in a list, but that doesn't mean I ever will.

I've decided I'm only getting one, because the ships in their expansion packs add more, which is what I'll get. I don't anticipate running more than two VSD's in a fleet.

After getting one I broke down and bought a second when I shouldn't have. If you can wait out Wave 1 release, do it. I couldn't. Really I don't think the monetary savings outweigh what you get from 1 core. Dice, 2 manuever template, squads, upgrades..... Alright!!!! Yes! Just buy a second if you can afford. Waiting definitely sucks hahaha.

Curious for an update on whether you did.....

I will not be getting a second. That $100 will go into buying wave 1 ships that will add more depth and variety to the game for me. I would not be able to get all of wave 1 if I get a second starter.

I've decided I'm only getting one, because the ships in their expansion packs add more, which is what I'll get. I don't anticipate running more than two VSD's in a fleet.

basically this more me as well

though I can imagine running two VSDs once the point limits increase, the different upgrades offered in the expansion skew my funds towards buying Wave 1 rather than multiple copies of the core

My personal opinion,
even when playing with someone who does not have the starter... NO.

It makes no sense since you might want to buy an extra VSD, Corvette and Nebulon from the Wave 1 packs.

Reason is, different cards.

If you now buy a 2nd starter you will not have the diversity later with all the cards (X-Wing sends its greetings), and might end up buying the ships seperat anyway.

That being said you end up with 3 VSDs 3 Corvettes and 3 Nebulons wich you simply cant field....

So for me that means.. i wait till the boat arrives and drops the Wave 1 at my FLGS....

This is my 2 cents.. :)

I made the same conclusion. Better wait for the wave 1 expansions. Different cards, and the ability to buy the amount you want. Otherwise you will just buy more anyway.

Edited by Wes Janson

My personal opinion,

even when playing with someone who does not have the starter... NO.

It makes no sense since you might want to buy an extra VSD, Corvette and Nebulon from the Wave 1 packs.

Reason is, different cards.

If you now buy a 2nd starter you will not have the diversity later with all the cards (X-Wing sends its greetings), and might end up buying the ships seperat anyway.

That being said you end up with 3 VSDs 3 Corvettes and 3 Nebulons wich you simply cant field....

So for me that means.. i wait till the boat arrives and drops the Wave 1 at my FLGS....

This is my 2 cents.. :)

Except you can field 3 of each ship, with 130+ points to spare with either faction.

My personal opinion,

even when playing with someone who does not have the starter... NO.

It makes no sense since you might want to buy an extra VSD, Corvette and Nebulon from the Wave 1 packs.

Reason is, different cards.

If you now buy a 2nd starter you will not have the diversity later with all the cards (X-Wing sends its greetings), and might end up buying the ships seperat anyway.

That being said you end up with 3 VSDs 3 Corvettes and 3 Nebulons wich you simply cant field....

So for me that means.. i wait till the boat arrives and drops the Wave 1 at my FLGS....

This is my 2 cents.. :)

I disagree, you can field this which is why I went with 2 cores.

Or if you don't care and can afford it. Do it. Otherwise, wait for Wave 1. Simple

I did it for my friends as well. Charitable I know but all the same it helps build a community when players can play with zero risk of loss in investment. I will be buying two more cores as prize support in our upcoming event, what's better than winning a core for a game you were on the fence about?

I don't think anyone who suggests buying 2 cores is saying don't buy wave one at all, rather we are saying that you get useful stuff in the second core like damage cards and objective cards and a ruler, dice etc, and coupled with the assumption that you will buy one of each of the wave one ships, having 3 of each ship is viable for using them in fleets.

Meh I Would Just get the one then get the individual models from wave 1. I know people who have bought 3 copies of the core! and I don't get why, as I have all of wave 1 prepaid/ordered so Whilst they have their 3 core sets I'll have pretty much everything I need plus all the extra upgrade cards you get from buying the individual boxsets. Also with upcoming waves I can easily see those extra VSD's, Nebs and Corvs just getting dusty on a shelf.

Edited by Neffer

Once I pieced it together that Wave 1 was still likely 1 - 3 months out .. I had to buy a second Core.

As stated in the thread many times, there are a lot of benefits to having the second core, besides the obvious models and cards.

Namely the dice, and the second movement tool, which I've made only as long as speed 2 for the IMP player.

Even when buying the wave 1 releases of the duplicate core set models, you can still field 3 CR90 in a standard game, so it really isn't too bad an investment if the game is something you want to dive into.

When all is said and done though, I can't see the reasoning for buying more than 2 core sets, unless you really want to play massive games now.

Malev

I saw wal-mart had these for sale on pre order for $60, so I couldn't say no to 2.

Since I'm the primary purchaser for things like this in my playgroup, and the tournament format was revealed to be 400 points, I realized buying two core sets was the way to go. I could feasibly see myself running 3x VSD in a list at 400 points, even after the wave 2 stuff.

Now the problem for me will be figuring out how many of each small ship expansions to get. I could run 7-8 CR90s in a list, but that doesn't mean I ever will.

It's 300 point limit on the pdf, did i miss something ?

I've debated a second core, but for the time being I'm just holding on the one. With Xwing it was a no brainer, given that for the costs of less than three ships, you get three more ships, plus extra counters and measuring sticks etc. This time around it isn't as obvious, even though there are some benefits.

I may get a second core, but for the moment, I'm sitting tight.

Since I'm the primary purchaser for things like this in my playgroup, and the tournament format was revealed to be 400 points, I realized buying two core sets was the way to go. I could feasibly see myself running 3x VSD in a list at 400 points, even after the wave 2 stuff.

Now the problem for me will be figuring out how many of each small ship expansions to get. I could run 7-8 CR90s in a list, but that doesn't mean I ever will.

It's 300 point limit on the pdf, did i miss something ?

The tournament rules have a little box on one page that says something along the lines of "The future of Armada". It explains that until Wave 1 is released, the tournament standard should be 180 pts. Then once wave 1 releases, the tournament standard will bump up to 300 pts. Finally, with wave 2 the tournament standard will raise to 400 pts, where it will stay.

This is presumably because of how expensive the ISD and Mon Cal cruiser are.

Even at 400 points, I think the 3 VSD squad is questionable, and if you won't run 3 VSD's then a 2nd core set is not a great value.

You could run 3 VSD's in 400 points, but that's going to be close to your whole list, that mean no ISD, and maybe a Raider or two, or a Gladiator. That might be a viable list, or it may not, but until people know more about how the meta will work out, I honestly think a 2nd core set is not nearly as good of a deal as a 2nd X-Wing core set.

Because you will want the VSD expansion, as well as CR-90 and Neb ones, for the cards, and you can get those expansions for less than the cost of a core set.

Extra damage cards, extra template, ect... are only useful if you are supplying everything for other people.

I am not gonna buy another core set

I am saving my $$ for the wave release because of the different cards and abilities

I bought two, first one from my LGS at retail price, and a second online for $75 (free shipping).

I feel that having only one Imperial ship really limits the tactical feel of the game and I don't/can't wait a month or more for the expansions to come out.

If the Wave 1 expansions were already out, then I would probably not buy the 2nd Core box.