We'll wait for Rogue One to come out, then we'll see real X-Wing action and what Ties are really like.

Mind you I am not argueing the power of the SD's, (though it should have taken longer to get through the shields) the rebels were way out matched, but the Tie fighters were just silly good and it was done in an over the top Anime style, which is not Star Wars.

It's a good video but the Ties are not protrayed accurately.

Ties didn't look too bad in the Battle of Yavin. Only a handful of Rebel Starfighters made it back. They were only engaged by a SINGLE Elite Tie Fighter squadron.

Ties didn't look too bad in the Battle of Yavin. Only a handful of Rebel Starfighters made it back. They were only engaged by a SINGLE Elite Tie Fighter squadron.

In the Battle of Endor the Rebel fleet is out numbered 10 to 1 and they managed to not only survive but pull off a victory by the skill of their fighter pilots. Their Capitals were way out matched.

Ties didn't look too bad in the Battle of Yavin. Only a handful of Rebel Starfighters made it back. They were only engaged by a SINGLE Elite Tie Fighter squadron.

Their mission wasn't to destroy the fighters. They were trying to blow up the Death Star as quickly as possible, which meant they had to put themselves into positions they wouldn't have in a straight-up dogfight.

Ties didn't look too bad in the Battle of Yavin. Only a handful of Rebel Starfighters made it back. They were only engaged by a SINGLE Elite Tie Fighter squadron.

Their mission wasn't to destroy the fighters. They were trying to blow up the Death Star as quickly as possible, which meant they had to put themselves into positions they wouldn't have in a straight-up dogfight.

The Rebel Starfighters outnumbered the Imperial Ties above the Death Star. Tarkin was foolish and did not commit any of the thousands of Ties the Death Star had to the battle. The only group of Ties was Vader's personal squad for 12 plus his Tie Advanced.

And they wouldn't have completed that job if it wasn't for the Falcon.

Endor is also another example of Imperial hubris. The Emperor wanted to display the power of the Death Star, when he could have easily just sent in his massive Imperial fleet and wiped out the Rebels easily enough. Had he committed all his Star Destroyers, the Rebel fleet would have lasted only a couple of minutes.

Got it I thought I just saw a clip from this a couple years ago, I didn't know it wasn't finished. Though I heard Lucus Films gave the artist a CD for this film. Is he ignoring it now Disney owns the rights?

Just thought I'd remind you too that Tie Fighters are not that good at all compared to a X-Wing and a Tie Bomber does not have antisquadron weapons that can take out 6 ships in one shot. LOL. Don't be sad when your ties start dying like flies. But that is why you brought a lot of them, right?

Cluster missiles have been a thing since the first Rogue Squadron game. And they were very good at killing half a dozen ships in seconds.

But the video games are not Canon. It's a video game. That's like saying all our Soldiers are super soldiers becuase there are first person shooter games where they Kill hundreds of enemys on solo missions. No offence to any service men out there, but you should understand the most.

The entirety of this clip was based on the TIE fighter game. It's an ode to Star Wars and its video games in particular.

We'll wait for Rogue One to come out, then we'll see real X-Wing action and what Ties are really like.

Mind you I am not argueing the power of the SD's, (though it should have taken longer to get through the shields) the rebels were way out matched, but the Tie fighters were just silly good and it was done in an over the top Anime style, which is not Star Wars.

It's a good video but the Ties are not protrayed accurately.

Yeah, yeah. Anything that portrays the Imperials as anything but faceless cannon fodder for the rebels to carve through by the dozens is terrible.

Excuse us for liking something that has the Imperials shine for once, we'll just return to our corner of shame while you mock us for lousy stormtrooper accuracy and how dreadful Imperial ships are.

The Rebel Starfighters outnumbered the Imperial Ties above the Death Star. Tarkin was foolish and did not commit any of the thousands of Ties the Death Star had to the battle. The only group of Ties was Vader's personal squad for 12 plus his Tie Advanced.

And they wouldn't have completed that job if it wasn't for the Falcon.

Endor is also another example of Imperial hubris. The Emperor wanted to display the power of the Death Star, when he could have easily just sent in his massive Imperial fleet and wiped out the Rebels easily enough. Had he committed all his Star Destroyers, the Rebel fleet would have lasted only a couple of minutes.

The Rebels are quick to flee in the face of Imperial power.

The Rebel Starfighters outnumbered the Imperial Ties above the Death Star. Tarkin was foolish and did not commit any of the thousands of Ties the Death Star had to the battle. The only group of Ties was Vader's personal squad for 12 plus his Tie Advanced.

And they wouldn't have completed that job if it wasn't for the Falcon.

Endor is also another example of Imperial hubris. The Emperor wanted to display the power of the Death Star, when he could have easily just sent in his massive Imperial fleet and wiped out the Rebels easily enough. Had he committed all his Star Destroyers, the Rebel fleet would have lasted only a couple of minutes.

The Rebels are quick to flee in the face of Imperial power.

apparently not quick enough

I'm just saying its lousy propaganda. It does a far better job of inspiring the oppressed to rise up against such a barbaric, and cold blooded regime. This is a battle that will inspire cries of "remember the lost convoy!"

Make no mistake, those ships will be avenged. For the Republic!

Hehe. Admiralcrunch!

While I love your Space Station work and worship it with fanatical admiration! I think you've got the Imps all wrong!

Guys, if you actually clicked on OtaKing77077's note section on his Youtube clip, you'll see some links to:

Poster:

Repudiator Squadron's: Character Bios

Rofl...I especially like TIE Bomber pilot 'Flight Lieutenant Ada''s bio: That scar over her left eye? That was sustained from opening a closet. But she tells people it happened when she took down 12 X-Wings. :lol:

I think it is awesome! And guys, don't forget it's anime. It HAS to be a bit over the top.

Animation is nice enough. But the magical anti-proton torpedo button and TIE bomber destroying much more agile fighters jars the experience and turns it Evil Sue. Also, faceless TIE pilots is more or less the point. Just as with Stormtroopers, they embody Imperial might and their approach to military organization over the more individualistic Alliance, in the universe and as a cinematic portrayal. Team Rocket Tie pilots just don't do it for me.

Guys, if you actually clicked on OtaKing77077's note section on his Youtube clip, you'll see some links to:

Poster:

Repudiator Squadron's: Character Bios

Rofl...I especially like TIE Bomber pilot 'Flight Lieutenant Ada''s bio: That scar over her left eye? That was sustained from opening a closet. But she tells people it happened when she took down 12 X-Wings. :lol:

I like the random note that Commander Gaunt offers fruit to his subordinates, and that somehow old man Rosh gets more fruit than anyone else for sheer coincidence.

yet for all this character we're supposed to outwardly assume the Empire has hoards of cheap, faceless evil dudes who are supposed to fly their evil starfighters.

First and foremost, I have to say that this video was very well made, and has a lot of nice nods to the old games.

That being said, I'm not impressed with the content.

The Empires glorious victory is 2 Imperial SDs and a cruiser vs. A lightly defended Rebel convoy. Wow. That is like 2 Seniors beating up a group of kindergartners. Come on. A 300 meter Nebulon B and a CR90 are not in the same weight class as a pair of Imperators.

What is the Empire going to do next, kick a kid with crutches?

Welcome to the harsh reality of the Galactic Civil War, where 'fair' fights are exceptionally rare.

If you want engagements where both sides have roughly equivalent resources, well, that's what the Prequel Trilogy and The Clone Wars are for.

the magical anti-proton torpedo button

You've never played as the good guys in Empire at War, have you?

Guys, if you actually clicked on OtaKing77077's note section on his Youtube clip, you'll see some links to:

Poster:

Repudiator Squadron's: Character Bios

Rofl...I especially like TIE Bomber pilot 'Flight Lieutenant Ada''s bio: That scar over her left eye? That was sustained from opening a closet. But she tells people it happened when she took down 12 X-Wings. :lol:

I like the random note that Commander Gaunt offers fruit to his subordinates, and that somehow old man Rosh gets more fruit than anyone else for sheer coincidence.

yet for all this character we're supposed to outwardly assume the Empire has hoards of cheap, faceless evil dudes who are supposed to fly their evil starfighters.

Hah hah hah.

Awesome isn't it?

I love it.

Great movie . Much better than the SW Rebels IMO.

Cool little video ... way too biased but still any star wars video is a good star wars video :0

This is obviously total Imperial propaganda.......

and every second is absolutely accurate. Loved it.

You guys are taking me back to '77 when I watched Ep4 in the theater.

I'm not sure if that's a good thing, it maybe a case of regression and at my age that's not a good thing LoL.

You've never played as the good guys in Empire at War, have you?

As somebody else has pointed out, the computer games are the bottom-feeders fluff-wise of an already pretty deep EU well

Well, there were elite TIE squadrons like the Black Squadron ( http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Squadron ), and those three were aces. Think about Soontir Fel or Turr Phennir, just three different ships.

You can't say it's biased because those three flew so good - look at all the other TIEs getting blown to pieces with little effort, they weren't -ALL- that good, just those three characters, so it's 100% plausible. Especially that the cluster missiles argument is invalid because the vid is based on a game where those existed and worked similarly.



While I understand that it conflicts with most people's idea of imperial forces because of the depiction of stormtroopers who can't hit a thing and TIEs blowing up from any rebels' farts just remember that the very same SW canon that you use as an argument here states that the stormtroopers and TIE pilots were elites. Some people got used to thinking that the "academy pilot" from X-Wing is your basic TIE guy, but it's not true, their missions were just tests to evaluate their skill.

Quoting wookiepedia on regular TIE pilots:
"They represented the elite of the Imperial Navy, having undergone grueling physical and psychological conditioning to achieve their ranks. An elite corps, only 10 percent of TIE pilots successfully navigated the intense training and testing of the Imperial Navy. The rest were reassigned throughout the Navy as combat gunners, crewmen, and other personnel."

So just remember that Empire actually had great pilots and great soldiers and it's just the movies / tv shows that depict them terribly, because they either were told to be so bad (old trilogy) or because it's a biased tv show for kids where they couldn't show the Empire win time and time again.

Also loved that notion of fair fight in this thread. No general, commander or king -EVER- wanted a fair battle with anyone. Even Sun Tzu preached that you shouldn't ever engage into an even battle, so everyone in history of mankind either beat up weaker enemy or tried to fight stronger one and failed. Please, don't bring such silly things into discussions about war, it's not sport with fair game rules.

P.s. - about the missile jammer - didn't Interdictor work exactly like that in Empire at War? I know games aren't too canon, but if this vid is already based on a video game, using other one's idea doesn't seem too wrong.

The video is not consistent with EaW from how the TIEs function. So no, it is just cherry-picking. The Interdictor/Immobilizer is a pretty old EU design dating back to the late 80s/early 90s and its main function is and has always been blocking ships from going into hyperspace.

Imperial Stormtroopers tend to do pretty well when not fighting Our Heroes in the movies and series. When facing regular rebels or other foes they show their mettle. Their only non-hero achilles heel is kids and midgets in bear costumes.

The video is not consistent with EaW from how the TIEs function. So no, it is just cherry-picking. The Interdictor/Immobilizer is a pretty old EU design dating back to the late 80s/early 90s and its main function is and has always been blocking ships from going into hyperspace.

Sigh, the only "cherry-picked" thing is interdictor's missile jammer and all I was saying is that it's pretty plausible, but EVERYTHING ELSE was made with TIE Fighter in mind given that it's a tribute to that game. It doesn't have to be consistent with EAW at all, it just borrowed ONE idea that appeared there and seemed pretty reasonable, don't be so negative, mate.

That thing doesn't half resemble any of the battles in TIE fighter - granted, it's been twenty years since I played it, but even so, one of the key points of destroying capital ships in that game was that they had to be locked down by an interdictor or otherwise immobilized and/or unwilling to jump out - as the early light cruiser mission that had surrounded itself with minefields. So don't be such a fanboy, mate

That thing doesn't half resemble any of the battles in TIE fighter - granted, it's been twenty years since I played it, but even so, one of the key points of destroying capital ships in that game was that they had to be locked down by an interdictor or otherwise immobilized and/or unwilling to jump out - as the early light cruiser mission that had surrounded itself with minefields. So don't be such a fanboy, mate

Claims of fanboyism aside, my personal experience wasn't too far off from what was portrayed in OtaKing's animation.

Yes, I played TIE Fighter some twenty years ago as well - actually I re-played it several weeks ago.

The two-part mission involving the Light Calamari Cruiser Lulsla didn't have anything to do with that particular ship being unwilling to jump out - it simply couldn't.

It had surrounded itself with an elaborate minefield to buy itself more time for:

a) reinforcements

b) to re-supply with materials from the traitorous Admiral Harkov

Part 1 of the mission involved an advanced reconnaisance squadron of Assault Gunboats locating the Lulsla and determining the contents of the cargo containers in its proximity.

Part 2 of the mission involved a quick strike consisting of more Assault Gunboats and Assault Transports.

No Interdictors were present in either part of the mission.

I lost all my wingmen in part 2 of the mission - was incredibly challenging, especially when the A-Wings came out.

In most of my other TIE Fighter missions though, I did a pretty good job of keeping my wingmen alive - had to keep an eye on them with memory pre-sets and issue orders for them to evade, stop or head home.

...think I'm going to load it up and continue some more. :D

P.s. - about the missile jammer - didn't Interdictor work exactly like that in Empire at War? I know games aren't too canon, but if this vid is already based on a video game, using other one's idea doesn't seem too wrong.

Yep.

Also, the follow-up game to TIE Fighter, X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter had an Immobilizer-418 in the expansion pack's campaign, and the campaign explicitly mentioned that the Interdictor was sent to an Imperial shipyard to be refitted with a self-defense anti-missile system.

So the concept was originally mentioned in the same series of games that this clip is based off of; it's just that the ability wasn't depicted until Empire at War.