Only complaint is that Danger Zone isn't long enough.

Real question: Why isn't this the Real Music

Real question: Why isn't this the Real Music

Or potentially Iron Maiden's Aces High. Or, less airplane-ish, but AC/DC's If You Want Blood, You've Got It is perfect for dogfighting action.

Highway, aces high, high speed dirt... I also kind of like paschendale.

Nightwishes cover of walking in the air is good flying music too, but wouldn't fit in this case.

Just ask Falsehood how stoked I was that we're getting a Rogue Squadron film.

And even better, definitely getting new Rogue Squadron games as a result. Hype.

Rogue Squadron games don't excite me, not after the fiasco that was the console release of the Rogue Squadron games. I'm still mad about that. Really mad.

Rogue Squadron games don't excite me, not after the fiasco that was the console release of the Rogue Squadron games. I'm still mad about that. Really mad.

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Rogue Squadron 1 and 2 were really, really good. And while the ground stuff wasn't great, Rogue Squadron III still was a pretty good game.

Rogue Squadron games don't excite me, not after the fiasco that was the console release of the Rogue Squadron games. I'm still mad about that. Really mad.

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Rogue Squadron 1 and 2 were really, really good. And while the ground stuff wasn't great, Rogue Squadron III still was a pretty good game.

They were not flight sims like X-wing and TIE fighter, they were stupid Star Fox-ish games which badly mimicked flight sims for a console. I was so sad not to be able to fly for Rogue Squadron in missions based on the books and the movies in a flight sim of the quality of X-wing.

They might have been good games, but if you came from X-wing or Tie Fighter you were just going to be VERY disappointed.

Rogue Squadron games don't excite me, not after the fiasco that was the console release of the Rogue Squadron games. I'm still mad about that. Really mad.

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Rogue Squadron 1 and 2 were really, really good. And while the ground stuff wasn't great, Rogue Squadron III still was a pretty good game.

They were not flight sims like X-wing and TIE fighter, they were stupid Star Fox-ish games which badly mimicked flight sims for a console. I was so sad not to be able to fly for Rogue Squadron in missions based on the books and the movies in a flight sim of the quality of X-wing.

Rogue Squadron has never been and never will be X-Wing. It's an Arcade flying game, and isn't watered down. It's just really different.

I like both.

Arcade flying games are, by definition, a watered-down experience in my opinion. Actually, my ideal is probably far from most other people's but I want to have to go through a start-up procedure on my starfighters and mess with my reactor to bring my cannons online, and have realistic physics, and have a helmet-mounted display with ten sensor modes, each one useful in a specific situation with a specific munitions load out, and so on. I get no pleasure at all from moving a starfighter on a screen with a thumbstick and holding down the B button.

That all sounds cool, but I don't think console controllers would handle that level of complexity very well. I enjoyed rogue squadron on N64 which had one of, if not THE worst console controller of all time.

That all sounds cool, but I don't think console controllers would handle that level of complexity very well. I enjoyed rogue squadron on N64 which had one of, if not THE worst console controller of all time.

That's my point. I think consoles need to die a swift death and their controllers along with them. Before console games became the go-to platform, there were dozens of flight sims on the market, many joystick options to choose from, etc. The early-mid 1990s were so amazing for flight sims. Now, you're lucky if you can find a PC game in a game store, and if you do, it'll be an MMO. Flight sims were almost totally destroyed by consoles. Consoles suck.

Someone's bitter lol

I know what I like and what I don't. I just wish that my interests were financially viable for the companies which make games, and they aren't, largely because most people are interested in a more casual experience, and so that gets catered to. It is what it is. But I'll never understand why people would rather pay 50 dollars for a console "flight" experience when, for the same price, or sometimes less, you could get an incredible experience on PC with so much more depth.

Remember when elite dangerous was going to have a single player. Good times.

EDIT: Why can't I just play alone in star citizen either?

I was 10 when i played Rogue Squadron for N64. I never had a PC nor did i ever play xwing vs tie fighter. (A horrible confession for sure) That Rogue Squadron game for a 10 year old was like living out your star fighter dreams. I loved it. I played every mission until i got the gold medals. I read all 9 xwing books when i was 14 and i still have those books today! I'm highly considering re-reading them. I completely understand the true sim vs watered down kaka. For me, the watered down kaka was exactly what my pre-pubescent body wanted lol. I'm big into PC now, not owning a console. I hope star citizen rocks. I'd really love a xwing vs tie fighter remake. That'd be amaze balls.

I was 10 when i played Rogue Squadron for N64. I never had a PC nor did i ever play xwing vs tie fighter. (A horrible confession for sure) That Rogue Squadron game for a 10 year old was like living out your star fighter dreams. I loved it. I played every mission until i got the gold medals. I read all 9 xwing books when i was 14 and i still have those books today! I'm highly considering re-reading them. I completely understand the true sim vs watered down kaka. For me, the watered down kaka was exactly what my pre-pubescent body wanted lol. I'm big into PC now, not owning a console. I hope star citizen rocks. I'd really love a xwing vs tie fighter remake. That'd be amaze balls.

Now, imagine being the same age and playing X-wing instead. The experience of X-wing is ten times that of Rogue Squadron. The Rogue Squadron books are based, at least in part, on the experience of playing the X-wing game. It's like living the books. And then imagine they release a Rogue Squadron game, and you are so into it, and then they give you that watered-down garbage that was actually worse than something many years older.

Do they have an emulator for xwing vs TF? Was it joystick style? I wanna give it a shot now!

Do they have an emulator for xwing vs TF? Was it joystick style? I wanna give it a shot now!

Go to GoG. Get X-wing Alliance. Get a joystick emulator that lets you assign axes, and set your rudder pedals to yaw and your joystick X-axis to roll. Or, if you lack rudder pedals for some strange reason, set the twist on your stick to yaw and your x-axis to roll. Then go and fly. And come back converted, realizing that Rogue Squadron was total garbage in comparison.

Eeek, i don't have any joystick action lol. Looks like i'm up a creek for a true life changing event LOL! All i have is the memories of that wobbly N64 stick and that Z trigger button...and That general guy giving me over simplified mission briefs...

Rogue one has hit IMDB! Here's a little article for fun:

https://uk.yahoo.com/movies/star-wars-rogue-one-concept-art-detailed-113776076869.html

Rogue one has hit IMDB! Here's a little article for fun:

https://uk.yahoo.com/movies/star-wars-rogue-one-concept-art-detailed-113776076869.html

Kind of disappointing. I'm going to withhold judgement though. It's not over yet.

Eeek, i don't have any joystick action lol. Looks like i'm up a creek for a true life changing event LOL! All i have is the memories of that wobbly N64 stick and that Z trigger button...and That general guy giving me over simplified mission briefs...

A decent joystick is like 20 bucks. That can't possibly be out of reach if you play this game.

I was 10 when i played Rogue Squadron for N64. I never had a PC nor did i ever play xwing vs tie fighter. (A horrible confession for sure) That Rogue Squadron game for a 10 year old was like living out your star fighter dreams. I loved it. I played every mission until i got the gold medals. I read all 9 xwing books when i was 14 and i still have those books today! I'm highly considering re-reading them. I completely understand the true sim vs watered down kaka. For me, the watered down kaka was exactly what my pre-pubescent body wanted lol. I'm big into PC now, not owning a console. I hope star citizen rocks. I'd really love a xwing vs tie fighter remake. That'd be amaze balls.

Now, imagine being the same age and playing X-wing instead. The experience of X-wing is ten times that of Rogue Squadron. The Rogue Squadron books are based, at least in part, on the experience of playing the X-wing game. It's like living the books. And then imagine they release a Rogue Squadron game, and you are so into it, and then they give you that watered-down garbage that was actually worse than something many years older.

I was that old when I played both. Hell I played X-Wing first. Guess what I enjoyed more?

Neither, I thought they were both really fun. Sometimes you want to immerse yourself in a realistic cockpit view, other times you just want to pick up a controller (or slap your keyboard around) and have fun. Not everything's gotta' be 1:1 realistic, it's alright to just have fun. It's this complaint that you echo that just reminds me, that we were going to get a brand new flying game- Attack Squadrons, and the fans complained that it wasn't X-Wing until it got canned brutally, despite all the potential it had.

I'm still sad about that, because while it was arcadey, it played like an incredibly well thought out mix of Battlefront II's space and Rogue Squadron II's flight system. It was just... fun. It felt like Star Wars, fast fun and fairly intense. S'all it needed to be, for what it was. A simple yet beautiful free to play browser game.

The first dedicated Star Wars flying game since Rogue Squadron II. Eleven years.

...And yet, that just wasn't good enough. Because of its reception, we might not see a new star wars flying game for even longer.

That's what hits me where it hurts. **** thing never even made it out of closed beta. I'll never get over that. If not for the bitter fans that wanted X-Wing, and couldn't let it be, I'd probably be playing it right now. There's a void that game filled for me.

A new Star Wars flying game that knows how to just be fun, and doesn't really want or need to be anything else.

*SIGH*...