The Cloakshape was known for being highly customizable.

I think you could throw in a cheap Cloakshape at 13-14 points with maybe 2/2/4/0.

With a Cannon, System, Missile, and Torpedo slot. Include a title for 0 points that lets you take two modifications and doesn't restrict you from taking two of the same modification.

Give it a Tie Fighter like dial but with the hard 1-turns red. Then include a modification that turns hard turns white for 1-2 points.

This gives you the flexibility to turn the CS into whatever you want it to be. Cheap blocker with Enhanced scopes. Heavy weapons platform with HLC and a HU or two. The Scums cheap missile and torp carrier, etc.

We already have 12pt and 14pt ships. Cheap missile carrier is z95. Cheap cannon or torp is scyk. Scyk is maneuverable while z95 has bland handling. Cloakshape doesn't have a place here.

I think it has more hit points and systems. Costs around 16. This differentiates it. Add some interesting modification aspect (two, unique, point reduction, etc). This has the makings of a ship I could see. This would actually not overlap the dunelizard, which I see having shield(s), 3 attack, crew/astro, higher cost.

Yes, never overlap the Dunelizard.

The Cloakshape was known for being highly customizable.

I think you could throw in a cheap Cloakshape at 13-14 points with maybe 2/2/4/0.

With a Cannon, System, Missile, and Torpedo slot. Include a title for 0 points that lets you take two modifications and doesn't restrict you from taking two of the same modification.

Give it a Tie Fighter like dial but with the hard 1-turns red. Then include a modification that turns hard turns white for 1-2 points.

This gives you the flexibility to turn the CS into whatever you want it to be. Cheap blocker with Enhanced scopes. Heavy weapons platform with HLC and a HU or two. The Scums cheap missile and torp carrier, etc.

We already have 12pt and 14pt ships. Cheap missile carrier is z95. Cheap cannon or torp is scyk. Scyk is maneuverable while z95 has bland handling. Cloakshape doesn't have a place here.

I think it has more hit points and systems. Costs around 16. This differentiates it. Add some interesting modification aspect (two, unique, point reduction, etc). This has the makings of a ship I could see. This would actually not overlap the dunelizard, which I see having shield(s), 3 attack, crew/astro, higher cost.

I was just going with the highly customizable theme. To do so, though it would have to be starting off cheap. Or your idea, letting you take a 2nd modification for half price.

I find it hard to believe they'd get their hands on rare B-wings but can't nab the far more plentiful Imperial gear.

Also, how do you steal a B-wing? If they've got rebels in them they're fighting back, if they're on the ground then you'd be far richer by selling the location of the rebel base you just found to the Imperials.

This is why Disney shouldn't have been given Star Wars. All they care about is the money they make merchandise they sell; they don't care about actually delivering quality content like Zahn or Allston to the fans.

I wager the person who wrote that book was equally concerned about delivering a quality product to the fans. Why they chose to give a B-wing to pirates, I don't know. Maybe the book explains it. Maybe the author is more concerned with other aspects of the Star Wars universe. God knows there's a lot of crappy piloting in the EU.

I find it hard to believe they'd get their hands on rare B-wings but can't nab the far more plentiful Imperial gear.

Also, how do you steal a B-wing? If they've got rebels in them they're fighting back, if they're on the ground then you'd be far richer by selling the location of the rebel base you just found to the Imperials.

This is why Disney shouldn't have been given Star Wars. All they care about is the money they make merchandise they sell; they don't care about actually delivering quality content like Zahn or Allston to the fans.

And Lucas didn't? I mean, Disney took some pages from Lucas when it came to merchandising. Disney recognizes that quality is important. And I trust Kathleen Kennedy to shepard the films to be something better than the MCU.

And one thing to remember about Heir to the Jedi, it was written before the buyout. So, it isn't necessarily a good example of the new EU.

I tried to read Heir to the Jedi, but the 1st person perspective was just too jarring in a SW novel.

I tried to read Heir to the Jedi, but the 1st person perspective was just too jarring in a SW novel.

Didn't like "I, Jedi" either, eh?

Man... I read that one when I was maybe 12... Don't remember it at all.

Man... I read that one when I was maybe 12... Don't remember it at all.

It's pretty heavy on the Gary Sue stuff, but it's fun overall.

I'm sure FFG will try to capitalize on new ships that will be in the next generation of movies. They would be idiots to not do so.

People will walk by the store shelf, see a ship that was in a great battle scene in the new movie and buy it right off for their kids or own collection etc. That's marketing folks.

If there is a great battle scene in the new movies. There wasn't a single great battle scene involving starfighters in the prequels.

Well, the teaser trailer gives me at least a little bit of hope on that front.

If there is a great battle scene in the new movies. There wasn't a single great battle scene involving starfighters in the prequels.

Except Phantom Menace, Attack o/t Clones and Revenge o/t Sith, none of the prequels had a fighter battle, no.

If there is a great battle scene in the new movies. There wasn't a single great battle scene involving starfighters in the prequels.

Except Phantom Menace, Attack o/t Clones and Revenge o/t Sith, none of the prequels had a fighter battle, no.

Note that I said GREAT battle scene involving starfighters. If you think Annie Skywalker in a Naboo N.1 qualifies as a great starfighter battle, I'm afraid I probably can't help you.

Nightshrike wins the thread.

scum B wings??? hmmm

If there is a great battle scene in the new movies. There wasn't a single great battle scene involving starfighters in the prequels.

Except Phantom Menace, Attack o/t Clones and Revenge o/t Sith, none of the prequels had a fighter battle, no.

Note that I said GREAT battle scene involving starfighters. If you think Annie Skywalker in a Naboo N.1 qualifies as a great starfighter battle, I'm afraid I probably can't help you.

Even the starfighter battle at the beginning of RotS (which was the best of the prequel battles) wasn't very good. It was flashy, of course, but it lacked any meaning. There was no build up or anything, just a big battle for the sake of having a big battle. Nothing like the two death star battles.

Note that I said GREAT battle scene involving starfighters. If you think Annie Skywalker in a Naboo N.1 qualifies as a great starfighter battle, I'm afraid I probably can't help you.

That's very subjective. I thought they were done well.

When I read they had B-Wings... I assumed they just messed up and nobody cared enough to correct it. I'm sure they meant to have Y-Wings or something. Then again, we now have A-Wings in the alliance years before Yavin cause of Rebels.

The book overall wasn't really well written. I've read better fan fiction.

Note that I said GREAT battle scene involving starfighters. If you think Annie Skywalker in a Naboo N.1 qualifies as a great starfighter battle, I'm afraid I probably can't help you.

That's very subjective. I thought they were done well.

Graphically, they were superb, but in terms of real fighter tactics or drama they were awful. The Naboo fight in Phantom Menace didn't even deal with any starfighter tactics, because it was focused on a child who couldn't see over the edge of the cockpit. The battle in (I believe it was RotS) featured little robots drilling holes in the ships, which ruined all of the starfighter action and replaced it with silly jedi nonsense. If you go back to the original movies, what you see is coordinated battles in which the starfighters are acting like real military units. You've got good use of comms, good tactical decision making (well, except no top cover for the death star trench, but whatever), and you've got mutual support between fighters engaged with the enemy. Not one of the prequels had any of that.

I find it hard to believe they'd get their hands on rare B-wings but can't nab the far more plentiful Imperial gear.

Also, how do you steal a B-wing? If they've got rebels in them they're fighting back, if they're on the ground then you'd be far richer by selling the location of the rebel base you just found to the Imperials.

This is why Disney shouldn't have been given Star Wars. All they care about is the money they make merchandise they sell; they don't care about actually delivering quality content like Zahn or Allston to the fans.

Disney isn't writing the books because it's a corporation, not a person. The books are written by the same authors as before. Heir was originally the end of a Legends book trilogy that got ported over to the new canon.

Note that I said GREAT battle scene involving starfighters.

bbbut the only firespray action in the whole heptrilogy...

I find it hard to believe they'd get their hands on rare B-wings but can't nab the far more plentiful Imperial gear.

Also, how do you steal a B-wing? If they've got rebels in them they're fighting back, if they're on the ground then you'd be far richer by selling the location of the rebel base you just found to the Imperials.

This is why Disney shouldn't have been given Star Wars. All they care about is the money they make merchandise they sell; they don't care about actually delivering quality content like Zahn or Allston to the fans.

Disney isn't writing the books because it's a corporation, not a person. The books are written by the same authors as before. Heir was originally the end of a Legends book trilogy that got ported over to the new canon.

Not completely. They are using some of the old authors, but they are also bringing in new blood. Ideally, Denning is no where near it...

But that's not specifically because of the buying of Lucasfilm. Authors come and go anyway.

bbbut the only firespray action in the whole heptrilogy...

Fair, but it wasn't exactly shown off in the best way. I'm just saying I could write a much better script for a fighter piloting scene in about 5 minutes than was produced for the prequels.

Pretty much every prequel combat scene was pretty and well choreographed but utterly soulless, people who say the lightsaber fights are better in the prequels utterly miss what the OT fights are representative of.