I don't think they use an actual formula, instead I think its just based on what they feel looks right.

I don't think they use an actual formula, instead I think its just based on what they feel looks right.

This is probably true, however, this will get you to a very close ballpark, from which you can tweak to taste. It was useful for me so I'm sharing, is all

As said many times before, FFG are playing with the scale the way they please.

They are looking more for the playability of a ship instead respect the size scale. I'm ok with that. As long as they give me a SSD.

Two large base long could be enough for me (like the one present in this thread page 56). I want something playable, not something stuck on is feet. At least that my point of view.

LCG just got the Death Star for two player........ you know what that means.........SSD is on the way!

In case no one has noticed. The SSD is pictured in some of the Wave 5 Art such as the TIE Defender and Shields to Maximum!

Just saying...

After taking a look at Corelian Conflict. It should have been a Super Star Destroyer Armada super expansion pack. And the little map would be like those campaigns that they throw in the X-wing epic ships.

Clearly a missed opportunity for FFG and a major hit against the production value for Armada.

Oh well

Anyone know the width (at the widest point) and depth (at the deepest point) of the Executor? Wookieepedia doesn't have it listed, just 19km long.

19 minutes ago, Undeadguy said:

Anyone know the width (at the widest point) and depth (at the deepest point) of the Executor? Wookieepedia doesn't have it listed, just 19km long.

Hard to tell - the Executor's length to width ratio varies considerably from artist to artist. It is possible that they may have had multiple Executor props in the movie with varying proportions.

Using Mel's Miniatures's model (which was based on Fractalsponge's, which matches up fairly closely to Empire At War) - it's on the order of 4 times as long as it is wide and a little over 4 times as wide as it is deep.

Their figures are 64.996 cm by 16.346 cm by 3.626 cm.

Using 64.996 cm = 19 km the proportions are:

19 km x 4.77 km x 1.06 km.

4 minutes ago, Ironlord said:

Hard to tell - the Executor's length to width ratio varies considerably from artist to artist. It is possible that they may have had multiple Executor props in the movie with varying proportions.

Using Mel's Miniatures's model (which was based on Fractalsponge's, which matches up fairly closely to Empire At War) - it's on the order of 4 times as long as it is wide and a little over 4 times as wide as it is deep.

Their figures are 64.996 cm by 16.346 cm by 3.626 cm.

Using 64.996 cm = 19 km the proportions are:

19 km x 4.77 km x 1.06 km.

Thanks. I saw these numbers in this thread but wasn't sure they were accurate or where they came from. Quick search is a nice tool but more often than not I get dropped into a conversation with no reference to anything else.

50 minutes ago, Undeadguy said:

Thanks. I saw these numbers in this thread but wasn't sure they were accurate or where they came from.

The main support for a slightly wider Executor is this:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Executor-class_Star_Dreadnought

the image being credited to Star Wars Encyclopaedia , and looking like a photograph of a studio Executor model.

Images of the Executor seen from the front tend to make it look pretty flat compared to its height:

supporting a ratio of width to height of over 4 to 1.

So I calculated it all out with the wiki measurements and using the star wars armada ISD for a base (which is 8 inches)

so using all of that the executor class super star destroyer would be 95 inches or almost 8 feet long!

On 11/04/2017 at 5:23 AM, james755 said:

So I calculated it all out with the wiki measurements and using the star wars armada ISD for a base (which is 8 inches)

so using all of that the executor class super star destroyer would be 95 inches or almost 8 feet long!

Which is why there is a sliding scale. In this game two Corellian Corvettes are longer than an ISD. But I never see anti SSD complaining about that.

On 12/21/2016 at 4:55 AM, FoaS said:

So, here's what my math came up with.

x = ((y/2) * sqrt(y) / 9.96) / y * 100;

where y is length of ship in meters and x is length of miniature in mm.

it fits with 8 of the miniatures that FFG has released within a tolerance of 5 mm. I think that this is a solid start, but I think that I'm going to try again later with all three dimensions instead. One major discrepency is the fact that the GSD and the NebB are the same length in miniature form, whereas the GSD is supposed to be 500m and the Neb-B is supposed to be 300m.

However, if you were to apply this same math to the SSD, the miniature should be over 2 feet long.

Hey man,

Thanks for working out that formula. I thought about doing it a couple of times, but then my head started to hurt. Using your formula does create some discrepancies, but not too big. Of course, that may also be partly measurement error on my part.

Anyway, big thumbs up from me.

1 hour ago, Teloch said:

Which is why there is a sliding scale. In this game two Corellian Corvettes are longer than an ISD. But I never see anti SSD complaining about that.

More like three or four but close enough. Not in disagreement about the sliding scale.

I think as long the model looks big in terms of width and length and certain aspects such as the bridge are at least the same size as an ISD's bridge it'll be fine.

I can live with a three foot long SSD if thats what they choose to do.

9 hours ago, Forresto said:

I think as long the model looks big in terms of width and length and certain aspects such as the bridge are at least the same size as an ISD's bridge it'll be fine.

I can live with a three foot long SSD if thats what they choose to do.

This is what a two -foot long SSD converted to have ISD bridge, looks like:

so even a 3 ft long one might look a bit odd.

On 12/04/2017 at 10:30 AM, Forresto said:

More like three or four but close enough. Not in disagreement about the sliding scale.

I think as long the model looks big in terms of width and length and certain aspects such as the bridge are at least the same size as an ISD's bridge it'll be fine.

I can live with a three foot long SSD if thats what they choose to do.

I should have been more specific, I was referring to the base not the model itself, (which is actually the important bit, the model is just decoration).

But I agree with what you said. If it feels epic and looks cool I'm all for it. For those that don't like it, they don't have to buy it.

The best fix would be to give it a bunch of title cards reflecting the small medium and large versions of the SSD. That way it's whichever length you want it.

On 4/12/2017 at 5:27 AM, Ironlord said:

This is what a two -foot long SSD converted to have ISD bridge, looks like:

so even a 3 ft long one might look a bit odd.

Well, the 'converted to have an ISD bridge' does make it look bizarrely Frankenstein-ish. I wouldn't have done that. And it's also certainly too 'narrow' for its length. Finally - each time the game bumps up the ship 'scale', the stand height increases...so this shouldn't be on the 'large'-scale stands at all, but instead something that makes it obviously 'higher' over the table than the other ships at that scale.

That said, given all those caveats...I think a 3' model would work just fine. But nothing smaller...

On 4/12/2017 at 7:27 AM, Ironlord said:

This is what a two -foot long SSD converted to have ISD bridge, looks like:

so even a 3 ft long one might look a bit odd.

I agree it does look a bit weird, Maybe a 4ft long ship would be nice with a half a foot width at its rear.

Also instead of the ship being the highest ship on the table, i think it should be the LOWEST one... also, give the ship "Connection points" on the hull for fighters... allowing it to be unique in that it can contain its own fighter screen within the ship and then allow it a deploy option, simlar to X-Wings Assault Carrier. Also would act like it does in Empire at War, deploying random fighter squadrons.

For anyone who played Empire at War, I think the SSD was pretty well portrayed in FOC. It wasn't the end all beat all ships, but it sure as hell had some teeth to it, and took a lot more teeth to chew through all its hard-points and HP. I think something similar for Armada would work nicely and keep it in line with the armada balance.

On April 12, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Ironlord said:

This is what a two -foot long SSD converted to have ISD bridge, looks like:

so even a 3 ft long one might look a bit odd.

It only looks weird because of how skinny it is. If that model was say twice as wide it would look a lot better.

45 minutes ago, Forresto said:

It only looks weird because of how skinny it is. If that model was say twice as wide it would look a lot better.

At twice as wide, it would, like the Starship Miniatures Battles Executor, look uncomfortably stubby:

On 12/04/2017 at 8:27 PM, Ironlord said:

This is what a two -foot long SSD converted to have ISD bridge, looks like:

This ship can only just about shoot it's own nose.....

When they make an SSD they have to work on getting the base right as well as the ship itself. It's more important that the base works than the model, to be honest.

I had a dream last night (a nightmare?) that FFG released the Executor and it was only 12 inches long and looked ridiculous. Hopefully such a thing would never come to pass in the waking world.

7 hours ago, bleezy said:

I had a dream last night (a nightmare?) that FFG released the Executor and it was only 12 inches long and looked ridiculous. Hopefully such a thing would never come to pass in the waking world.

I'm expecting a model about 2 1/2 to 3 feet long. It will be glorious!

I really hope it will be.

15 hours ago, bleezy said:

I had a dream last night (a nightmare?) that FFG released the Executor and it was only 12 inches long and looked ridiculous. Hopefully such a thing would never come to pass in the waking world.

That's like barely an inch longer than the ISD.

2 hours ago, Undeadguy said:

That's like barely an inch longer than the ISD.

I thnk the current ISD is like, 8-9 Inches.

So that makes it 3-4 Four Inches.

Almost 50% Larger. Which, really, in relative scales, is no where near large enough to suit... It'd be a very poor SSD to be shoehorned that small.