Or the Tector-class - which was confirmed as existing in the "canonverse" with the short story The Levers of Power.

In addition to its lack of belly dome - it could be depicted as having extra armour plates, or larger gun turrets, to make it stand out next to the Imperial-class.

Tector would flat out have to be an HP 12 ship, with more dice but basically no squadron at all...and frankly as having come into service before the Imperial (Imperator) it would need to be around Victory speed.

No the only ship aside from the Venator that could fill the slot to combat the Liberty would probably be the Procursator....

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Procursator-class_Star_Destroyer

Tector would flat out have to be an HP 12 ship, with more dice but basically no squadron at all...and frankly as having come into service before the Imperial (Imperator) it would need to be around Victory speed.

Unless it was the Imperial chassis - but with different things on it (Imperial had to have the reactor moved to fit a hangar in).

If the Tector is thought of as an early-model Imperial with a slightly different layout- higher speed becomes viable.

Tector would flat out have to be an HP 12 ship, with more dice but basically no squadron at all...and frankly as having come into service before the Imperial (Imperator) it would need to be around Victory speed.

Unless it was the Imperial chassis - but with different things on it (Imperial had to have the reactor moved to fit a hangar in).

If the Tector is thought of as an early-model Imperial with a slightly different layout- higher speed becomes viable.

Not quite, consider what the Tector was - a warship that was a further extension of the Victory class. The Victory was considered a more space combatant/planetary bombardment warship that was slow by GCW standards. It also sacrificed carrier capability (that the Venator had) for more armor and weapons. The Tector basically was a scaled up and refined design of the Victory, that essentially did away with carrier capability for even more armor and weapons....and following the experience of the Clone Wars, the Republic/Empire refined what they learned from all three warships and we have the resultant Imperator class (Imperial.)

The fact is, the Tector is an upscale warship that sacrifices speed and maneuverability for blunt armor and weapons. In game terms it's going to be a slow ship but have a stupid good main battery and HP to make even Admiral Motti weak in the knees.

14HP IMP II's with Motti are hard to knock down, they are fast and well armed...a Tector with the same speed, but better guns and armor with lack of squadron capability would be over powered, and I'm trying hard to not throw that around with this game.

I really don't like the Tector. For decades no one had heard of it until someone decided that 1 shot of a hull segment of an ISD in RotJ that is apparently flying upside down compared to all the other ISD's in the scene and without a reactor core & hangar warrants an entirely new Star Destroyer class rather than taking the scene for what it was, a rushed special effect.

As for the SSD, I think they will make a huge model for it eventually. (With FFG's recent release speed, our generations may not live to see that day though). However to do the Executor justice it needs to come with a set of scenario's specific to it. It should not be tournament legal and something both players have to agree on. Biggest ship for regular play could and should be the new Star Destroyer from episode 7.

I really don't like the Tector. For decades no one had heard of it until someone decided that 1 shot of a hull segment of an ISD in RotJ that is apparently flying upside down compared to all the other ISD's in the scene and without a reactor core & hangar warrants an entirely new Star Destroyer class rather than taking the scene for what it was, a rushed special effect.

As for the SSD, I think they will make a huge model for it eventually. (With FFG's recent release speed, our generations may not live to see that day though). However to do the Executor justice it needs to come with a set of scenario's specific to it. It should not be tournament legal and something both players have to agree on. Biggest ship for regular play could and should be the new Star Destroyer from episode 7.

My thoughts exactly

I actually don't see a problem with the Tector -class if they're obsessed with canon-only ships now (and FFG seems to have a triangles thing going with the Empire). I'd rather see another Ep4-6 era ship before seeing anything from TFA (like Finalizer ). I'd actually be OK with a bunch of titles in a card pack or alternate versions of existing ships if that's what it took to get more diversity out there (I still think 4 ships is too little, especially when one is auto-include).

All that being said, I'm definitely in the camp of the SSD is doable, especially after playing a 600+ point game. Not everything has to be focused on tournament-legal rules (X-Wing's epic scale still introduces cards that help in the standard format). SSD would be a great way to introduce Admiral Piett and a lot of other interesting cards.

The SSD is doable, but you will have to play on the floor and use tape measures instead of range rulers. About 5X the regular range should make the Executor workable.

I've changed my mind several times.

I used to want an SSD, but then realized it would likely feel absurd if it was made in any of the size ranges that FFG has ever made stuff. Even the Raider for X-Wing, is too small. If they are gonna do it it'll have to be a whole new type of packaging and everything, and it'll have to be so large that the price point will be obscene. (Probably $200 or more).

I just can't picture FFG selling a product so large, people with small cars cannot fit it inside.

But what if.....

They sold it in 3 different pieces? It would probably making packaging and shipping easier, as well as allowing fans to buy it in pieces. It's also gonna come with awesome upgrades right? Maybe you only want like 1 or 2 upgrades... well now just buy one section.

Or maybe I just want one right now because I'm STARVED for information about this game! I'll settle for anything at this point.... even....prequel ships. =(

I've changed my mind several times.

I used to want an SSD, but then realized it would likely feel absurd if it was made in any of the size ranges that FFG has ever made stuff. Even the Raider for X-Wing, is too small. If they are gonna do it it'll have to be a whole new type of packaging and everything, and it'll have to be so large that the price point will be obscene. (Probably $200 or more).

I just can't picture FFG selling a product so large, people with small cars cannot fit it inside.

But what if.....

They sold it in 3 different pieces? It would probably making packaging and shipping easier, as well as allowing fans to buy it in pieces. It's also gonna come with awesome upgrades right? Maybe you only want like 1 or 2 upgrades... well now just buy one section.

Or maybe I just want one right now because I'm STARVED for information about this game! I'll settle for anything at this point.... even....prequel ships. =(

Brilliant, just for the look on my opponent's face as I only deploy the engine compartment of the Executor. Other than that it seems like a ridiculous idea.

Got tired of waiting for a Super Star Destroyer, couldn't afford the lego one. So some cardboard, hot glue, paint a few hours and three beers later here it is.

https://instagram.com/p/BCguyMDrL9I/

Went for a compromise between epicness and playability. Still need to build a proper base for it but thought I'd share anyway

I see no reason the SSD can't be in the game. Look to the plastic toy already out for rough size ideas. Sure, it's a little cumbersome, but what does it matter that it takes up a quarter of the table when you realize point-wise, it's the only Imperial ship you'll have on the board in a 1500 point game?

The SSD was mentioned on three separate threads today.

You have summoned it from the beyond... or at least page 4.

Sorry cynan, I was one of them.

Got tired of waiting for a Super Star Destroyer, couldn't afford the lego one. So some cardboard, hot glue, paint a few hours and three beers later here it is.

https://instagram.com/p/BCguyMDrL9I/

Went for a compromise between epicness and playability. Still need to build a proper base for it but thought I'd share anyway

This is surprisingly well done. It's obviously smaller than it's proper scale, but still looks menacing enough and WAY larger than anything else, without dominating the entire battlefield. Bravo!

Got tired of waiting for a Super Star Destroyer, couldn't afford the lego one. So some cardboard, hot glue, paint a few hours and three beers later here it is.

https://instagram.com/p/BCguyMDrL9I/

Went for a compromise between epicness and playability. Still need to build a proper base for it but thought I'd share anyway

That's awesome, how long is it?

I'm going to guess 24".

I keep going back and forth as well.

On the "I really want it" side: it's the freaking executor. A capital ship game feels somewhat incomplete without it. The sliding scale allows it to be possible (an imperial class is supposed to be nearly double the size of a victory, in the game it certainly isn't but it still feels imposing and proper)

On the "on second thought" side: even using the armada sliding scale, anything that ends up being feasible would still feel too small. Victory to Imperial is one thing, but an executor class is more than 10 times the size of an imperial class. Double or even triple the size of the current imperial wouldn't work, maybe going 5 times the size would start to feel ok, but that's HUGE for a mini.

Then there's the play aspect. Clearly it would have to be 'epic' scale, complete with a new game format. Otherwise you will have just an ssd, and that eliminates the epic feel. Then comes the sheer quantity of (not exactly cheap) ships the rebel player would have to buy to play such a game. Maybe with a few more waves and collecting ships you can't possibly use in one fleet (a step we are admittedly already at) it will get better.

And then there's the rarity aspect. There are what, 3 executor classes in canon, 5 if you go EU? This concern vanishes in an epic scenario, but if it isn't epic or "cinematic" play, having ssds in every imperial fleet will cheapen it.

But then again...I REALLY want one...

And then there's the rarity aspect. There are what, 3 executor classes in canon, 5 if you go EU? This concern vanishes in an epic scenario, but if it isn't epic or "cinematic" play, having ssds in every imperial fleet will cheapen it.

But then again...I REALLY want one...

That's debatable? I am not up on current canon as far as if they have named only 3 in canon, or if they have flat out stated "...only three were ever built."

I say this because in Return of the Jedi, as Han and the others are flying past the SSD, you may recall no one crapped their shorts when they came out of hyperspace and saw this huge fricking ship. They didn't have a seen in Empire of anyone on the sensors exclaim "What the hell is that? " either. And as they are flying by, Han even says that there are a lot of command ships in the Empire. Certainly, he could simply be referring to a ship of status that Vader might have been on other than the one they were flying by, but I don't see it that way simply because it wasn't just another Destroyer.

So, unless it's actually stated there are only 3, there are as many as Disney decides there are.

--edit-- Did a quick check, and the official site does not put any limit on how many were made, as far as I can see. Wookiepedia does state there were only two other known SSD's, and the canon novel Aftermath states that only one SSD was around after the Battle of Endor. So I guess they were limited after all.

Well, it's pretty well established that the rebels have a spy network that (while it does result in quite a few dead Bothans), does get results. I dare say the executor wasn't much of a surprise to anyone. Except maybe the stormtroopers working in a specific area of Death Star II...

You know (and forgive me if this has been covered already), given the sheer size of the SSD, what if it got treated more the way I've seen some of the ideas for Platforms and Stations? Give each hull zone properties, some of which work in a synergistic fashion with other hull zones. You could hammer down and disable/destroy sections of the ship reducing it's overall effectiveness, while still keeping it on the table and having it be a threat. Essentially treat each hull zone as its own ship, with shields and damage codes more in line with what's already out there. Myself, I think I'd prefer this over seeing it come out with insane numbers of attack dice that all fire every round until you chew through its 6 point shields and then do like 18 to 24 damage to its hull.

It would also add a thematic element to its role in the game. Aft section destroyed; ship can no longer maneuver and weapons in this arc can no longer fire. Forward section destroyed; weapons in this arc may no longer fire, command dials and may no longer be used, commander are removed from game (symbolic of the bridge being destroyed). Not sure what to do for port and starboard, but I'm sure something could be cooked up.

Just a thought.

Got tired of waiting for a Super Star Destroyer, couldn't afford the lego one. So some cardboard, hot glue, paint a few hours and three beers later here it is. https://instagram.com/p/BCguyMDrL9I/

Went for a compromise between epicness and playability. Still need to build a proper base for it but thought I'd share anyway

That's awesome, how long is it?

Not sure exactly, I think about 26 inches, I did the whole thing freehand... For some stupid reason I don't have access to measuring devices at work.

Maybe they should just put it out as a 3'x6' game mat will firing arcs for it printed on.

I would like to see it in the 36" to 48" size range

I would like to see it in the 36" to 48" size range

There is a resin model available at this size for around 700.00.