Super Star Destroyer discussion thread

By Eagle128, in Star Wars: Armada

The most funniest thing an SSD could do in a game, is to ram a CR90.

The CR90 will get one facedown damage card, but will still live despite being hit by a ship that is almost 100 times longer and many more times heavier.

Its like a sparrow surviving being hit by a freight train :P :P :P

Or epic ships in armada would follow similar rules to x wing.

I'd think that, because being blocked by a CR-90 is ridiculous. For a ship that would be three hull sizes larger, that the CR-90 doesn't take more damage but halts the SSD would be preposterous.

Hard to say, how fast is SB1 moving when it hits the CR90?

The most funniest thing an SSD could do in a game, is to ram a CR90.

The CR90 will get one facedown damage card, but will still live despite being hit by a ship that is almost 100 times longer and many more times heavier.

Its like a sparrow surviving being hit by a freight train :P :P :P

Or epic ships in armada would follow similar rules to x wing.

I'd think that, because being blocked by a CR-90 is ridiculous. For a ship that would be three hull sizes larger, that the CR-90 doesn't take more damage but halts the SSD would be preposterous.

And its not when it is an Victory or Imperial Star Destroyer?

The most funniest thing an SSD could do in a game, is to ram a CR90.

The CR90 will get one facedown damage card, but will still live despite being hit by a ship that is almost 100 times longer and many more times heavier.

Its like a sparrow surviving being hit by a freight train :P :P :P

Or epic ships in armada would follow similar rules to x wing.

I'd think that, because being blocked by a CR-90 is ridiculous. For a ship that would be three hull sizes larger, that the CR-90 doesn't take more damage but halts the SSD would be preposterous.

The most funniest thing an SSD could do in a game, is to ram a CR90.

The CR90 will get one facedown damage card, but will still live despite being hit by a ship that is almost 100 times longer and many more times heavier.

Its like a sparrow surviving being hit by a freight train :P :P :P

Or epic ships in armada would follow similar rules to x wing.

I'd think that, because being blocked by a CR-90 is ridiculous. For a ship that would be three hull sizes larger, that the CR-90 doesn't take more damage but halts the SSD would be preposterous.

According to Newton's third law of physics, and assuming they're made of the same materials, they actually should each receive equal damage. Just an ssd can shrug off a cr90 sized dent in the front, but a cr90 sized dent on a cr90 is fatal.

Ever see what happens to a SUV that hits a Smart car? The Smart car is a mess, but the SUV takes more damage.

The most funniest thing an SSD could do in a game, is to ram a CR90.

The CR90 will get one facedown damage card, but will still live despite being hit by a ship that is almost 100 times longer and many more times heavier.

Its like a sparrow surviving being hit by a freight train :P :P :P

Or epic ships in armada would follow similar rules to x wing.

I'd think that, because being blocked by a CR-90 is ridiculous. For a ship that would be three hull sizes larger, that the CR-90 doesn't take more damage but halts the SSD would be preposterous.

According to Newton's third law of physics, and assuming they're made of the same materials, they actually should each receive equal damage. Just an ssd can shrug off a cr90 sized dent in the front, but a cr90 sized dent on a cr90 is fatal.

Of course as it would be larger than well Large ships they could do something like:

When a small to large ship would overlap a Huge ship, the Huge ship may choose to reduce their shield value on that hull zone instead of taking a damage.

Considering a ramming A-wing took down the Executor, I feel it should take normal ramming damage. As long as it has enough hitpoints (about 12 per section would be right, 15 with motti) to cope. I was also thinking about a rule where you don't need to completely destroy all sections the of the SSD. Instead, destroying 2 out of 4 sections would be enough to destroy (or disable) it. That would allow us to have a somewhat cheaper SSD without it feeling wrong: its still capable of soaking up a lot of damage when its spread across all sections (48 hull points total), but will go down with dedicated focus fire on a specific side (only 24 hullpoints to eat through if you only fire on the same two hullsections).

Edited by Lord Tareq

The SSD has been mentioned 3 times today, so it must return!

They also mentioned Admiral Piet as well.

You know you all want a SSD of your very own!

Oh good golly this thing has risen from the depths again?

And I thought Cthulhu was a menace...

Cthulhu vs Executor. Go.

Note that Cthulhu doesn't have A-Wings.

Alas this is the only safe refuge to say the word Super Star Destroyer...In a polite manner lol...

Alas this is the only safe refuge to say the word Super Star Destroyer...In a polite manner lol...

Wow, 37 pages and it is still here.

Alas this is the only safe refuge to say the word Super Star Destroyer...In a polite manner lol...

Nope, plenty of people still drive by the topic to slam the idea on principle.

The SSD has been mentioned 3 times today, so it must return!

They also mentioned Admiral Piet as well.

You know you all want a SSD of your very own!

I do! The only problem is I don't think I could realistically expect to take twin Imperials as escorts outside of anything other than a Battle of Endor level of scenario.

...which actually would provide the 'Armada' a lot of people is missing from the game wouldn't it?

Edited by Norsehound

Alas this is the only safe refuge to say the word Super Star Destroyer...In a polite manner lol...

Don't get me wrong, I love the SSD. I bought the craptastic SW Starship Battles game JUST to have the SSD figure. It's on the top of the desk I'm typing this at. I'm just surprised (a little) that this mummy keeps getting unearthed.

To heck with Tarkening this thread, someone Rieekaned it.

Edited by GronardII

I made this thread for a place the SSD talk could go and maybe die. Now I regret that I have given the world a Frankenstein style monster. Believe me I have looked for the delete button but I haven't found it yet.

If anyone knows how to delete a thread, please let me know...

I am sorry cruel world.

Here is a nice comparison shot that shows the relative size between all the various Super Star Destroyers: z.jpg

Edited by Lord Tareq

WHY?! DEAR LORD WHY?!

The ssd thread can not die.

Eventually this thread will be as long as the SSD itself. I wonder what will happen to it if FFG ever does make a Super star Destroyer.

because that's the only way this thread will die. That, or when someone comes up with one.

Well personally i think they make dreadnoughts like the bellator or battlecruisers like the allegiance or the praetor MK2

Mentioned this many pages back but...

They can't do anything but the Executor , when making the decision to depict ships much larger than the Imperial . Ships like the Victory and Assault Frigate from the Legends EU were stop-gaps to cover areas in the game that no canonical ship covered. FFG intended for the Imperial to be the battlefield queen and for that they needed a smaller common ship to take its place until they were ready to bring out the big guns.

But Armada doesn't need the huge ship roll filled. It could go on entirely without implementing the Super Star Destroyer class at all.

So if there is no pressing need to put a Super Star Destroyer into the game, why compromise for any ship other than the Executor ? Because if they do, if they decide to do the Praetor II or any of the other battle-cruisers first, people are going to say, "Well this works, why didn't they just do the Executor instead of this forgettable thing from the EU?"

Now, if the Executor exists as a playing piece in the game I can see FFG pushing into the EU legends continuity for some kind of compromise. Because there would be a need to create a ship to fill the gap on the rebels side for super heavy ships, and that's where we'll start to see other heavy battlecruisers or dreadnoughts to compete.

But if FFG is thinking about going large, Executor is it, full stop. And then the Empire will have something to suitably slap around super-repair MC80s and Assault Frigates that think they rule the universe.

Edited by Norsehound

The SSD for Armada will be an expensive piece of intricately sculpted furniture suitably armed to destroy marriages. Then you simply use it as your gaming table and roll a bucket of dice every turn for its attacks if you're the imperial player.

Edited by MarekMandalore

The SSD is the ultimate expression of Imperia might, and has been since it appeared on screen in ESB. I didn't care then that it was ridiculesly huge and unwieldy, and I dont care now. I don't care that they will need to wright epic rules for it, and I don't care that segments of the Armada players dont want to shell out $$$ just to get the upgrade cards forca ship they find ridicules. I wantvan SSD in my Armada fleet! So do many others. If FFG doesn't produce one, they are leaving money on the table. I know it, you all know it, and most importantly they know it. I will have an SSD if I have to get the giant model and stat it myself, but I don't believe fo a second that FFG is going to leave the biggest ship of the GCW out of the equation. They wouldn't be continuing to make epic scale ships for x-wing if that were the case. It is only a matter of time. The only way it never happens, is if Armada dies as a game before the make it. Bet!

Sigh.

This thread is a sad sad panda. Nothing new, same arguments and suggestions.

The saddest thing is that people do not care about scale, usefulness or balance at all, all they want is the Executor just for the sake of the Executor.

Fine, I give up trying to reason with people. FFG just make the god **** thing and give it weak ass rules. That way the SSD fans are happy but the **** thing won't ruin the game. Probably the best solution since everyone will buy it no matter what it does and the real gamers won't have to deal with the blasted thing since it will just sit on people's selfs. That's what I have come to with this **** thread.

And I am making this suggestion based off the proSSD posters, they don't care what FFG does with the ship as long as it is the Executor, period.

Edited by Beatty

Make it weak, like they did with the VSD and ISD? So that it's playable? Sounds like a plan.