Scum YT-1300's?

By Ryedub, in X-Wing

So I found a PDF copy of the RPG sourcebook for the Saga Edition

of the Star Wars Roleplaying Game by Wizards of the Coast.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Scum_and_Villainy_(sourcebook)

Chapter 2 is thirty pages of "Outlaw Tech"

a huge treasure trove of upgrade and ability ideas.

On top of that I have a copy of the Hayes Owner's manual for

the YT-1300 and I hope to have a list of configurations and optional extras.

I still fail to se where the argument to keep more turrets out of the game is valid?

yeah gameplay is one thing, but im big on the theatrics of it all, the cool large ships being swarmed by smaller ships, those smaller ships ducking and dodging turret fire while trying to come around to make another pass. its all so cool when you visualize what the ships are doing. that's why I love epic battles so much. I want to get a bunch of the guys together and have a truly epic battle with thousands of points on the table.

a new turret, scum or not, is just another weapon in the arsenal of options.

yes please ;)

I still fail to se where the argument to keep more turrets out of the game is valid?

yeah gameplay is one thing, but im big on the theatrics of it all, the cool large ships being swarmed by smaller ships, those smaller ships ducking and dodging turret fire while trying to come around to make another pass. its all so cool when you visualize what the ships are doing. that's why I love epic battles so much. I want to get a bunch of the guys together and have a truly epic battle with thousands of points on the table.

a new turret, scum or not, is just another weapon in the arsenal of options.

yes please ;)

I don't have any problem with more turreted ships - but I'd much rather have a NEW turreted ship than a rehash of an old one

Just based on all the coments on this thread there is a HUGE interest in YT style Scum ships. I would buy a new YT-2000 or any other transport ship and then get some Scum yt-1300/2400's. That woul dbe awesome. Charge like $35 instead of $30 but you get to turn both Yt into scum ships. Take my money now. I like to run 3 YT lists now. Would be cool if I could run three different ships.

Just based on all the coments on this thread there is a HUGE interest in YT style Scum ships. I would buy a new YT-2000 or any other transport ship and then get some Scum yt-1300/2400's. That woul dbe awesome. Charge like $35 instead of $30 but you get to turn both Yt into scum ships. Take my money now. I like to run 3 YT lists now. Would be cool if I could run three different ships.

Yeah, that sounds AWESOME. I want my Otana, dang it.

any way you look at it, this game is constantly evolving from 1 form to another, I think the large number of potential builds that are out there is going to keep people guessing at tournaments.

I like that a lot, you just don't know what people are going to bring so you need a good all around list to fight everything you can think of. so the more I see the more I like.

Forgot to post these other FTSGecko YT-1300 cards.

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So any scum format updates to these cards.

Still I am skeptical about the effectiveness of 2 attack turrets in the world of Decimators Fat Hans and Outriders. and even though these ideas concepts were before Wave 6 was spoiled S&V already has the green to target lock upgrade.

also, I would like to add, I like the repurposing of ships.

I now like using the hawk, ywing, even the firespray is more fun now.

so repurposing of a ship, if done well, I think can add to the game and give life to a ship that has been left on the sidelines.

that being said, the yt series are not ships that have been sidelined. they make up a bulk of rebel builds that I have seen, so I can see the skepticism of not giving these ships more love at this time. and I get that new ships are cooler than repurposing an old one. so I would love a repurposed ship and/or welcome new ones, but we havnt had a between wave release since rebel aces, both mid-wave releases were repurposed ships, so why not another one to tie us over until the next wave?

I don't know...

I mean, I wouldn't flip out or *gasp* not buy a Scum YT, but I kind of like the idea of one of S&V's "things" being not having access to a turreted primary large ship. I know it comes off a little hipster, but there it is.

I think I owuld even prefer stuff like the Punishing One to have a turret slot rather than a turret primary. Of course maybe that's also because I really want a range 1-3 turret upgrade (Warthog Horton would be so happy...).

Forgot to post these other FTSGecko YT-1300 cards.

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So any scum format updates to these cards.

Still I am skeptical about the effectiveness of 2 attack turrets in the world of Decimators Fat Hans and Outriders. and even though these ideas concepts were before Wave 6 was spoiled S&V already has the green to target lock upgrade.

I'm a little busy with some Astrophysics stuff, among other things, but am I correct,

someone is asking me to make some cards, instead of complaining, for a change?

It reads like you want me to convert the format from Rebel to Scum.

My input into this is on the back burner but not withdrawn.
I'm currently finishing up "Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon."

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I'm going to go over all the current S&V abilities.

Reread the Owners manual for the YT-1300

and list all the modifications on the MF to remove,

(eg. it has military armor and the antenna is military grade.)

and all the configurations on the Stellar Envoy that are possible.

I also will have to research all the possible characters

associated with the YT-1300 to use.

And I think the trickiest character to make a unique pilot/crew

ability that fits is going to be Lando's loyal sidekick Vuffi Raa.

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I'm also going to steal and modify some of these ideas.


using the YT-1300
attack = 2
agility = 1
hull = 6
shields = 4
action bar = focus + target lock
options included in pack:
Title: Pirate = adds cannon and turret upgrade slot
Title: Smuggler = adds second modification slot
Title: Hunter = gains elite pilot slot (this can stack to 2)
Title: Hutt transport = adds 1 hull and 1 shields
Title: Outlaw tech = may use salvaged astromechs in place of crew slots
Cannon: tractor beam = attack 3, range 1-2, if hit, cancel all dice results but ship performs red 0 maneuver next activation phase instead of placing a dial
Modification: Fire power = increase primary weapon damage by 1
Modification: Maneuverability = add evade to action bar
Crew: Hutt = Any ship that can perform an attack on this ship, must attack this ship (Biggs)
Crew: Gunner Ace = at the end of the combat phase you may spend 1 focus token to perform another primary weapon attack
Crew: Assassin = Action: choose an enemy ship at range 1 with a crew upgrade card. roll 1 attack die. on a hit result discard this card to make your opponent discard one of his crew upgrade cards you choose.
Edited by gabe69velasquez

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Just playing around with different ideas for now,

while the research continues.

But I do plan on playtesting this soon anyway.

What would you price this at, as is?

Edited by gabe69velasquez

It has been a very common line of speculation, almost since S&V was first announced, that any scum YT-1300 would have the Outer Rim Smuggler stat line. With a sufficiently radical paintjob and special pilot abilities designed with the lesser stats in mind, it would play and look VERY different to the Rebel version.

I do expect it to happen, but not for a couple years. They will most likely want to build up scum's identity for a few waves before adding any more crossover ships.

Of course, there is still the issue that the MF title is not Rebel Only. The titles not being faction specific is OK for the Crow and Slave 1, but might be a problem for the most iconic ship ever.

Scum solo, working For jabba before joining the rebels? Then I could field the Falcon and Slave 1 on the same team. Oh my...what did I just type?

Here's the Scum YT-1300 stat line:

N O P E

You sound,

S C A R E D

because you know it's inevitable.

Edited by Radzap

It has been a very common line of speculation, almost since S&V was first announced, that any scum YT-1300 would have the Outer Rim Smuggler stat line. With a sufficiently radical paintjob and special pilot abilities designed with the lesser stats in mind, it would play and look VERY different to the Rebel version.

I do expect it to happen, but not for a couple years. They will most likely want to build up scum's identity for a few waves before adding any more crossover ships.

Of course, there is still the issue that the MF title is not Rebel Only. The titles not being faction specific is OK for the Crow and Slave 1, but might be a problem for the most iconic ship ever.

Scum solo, working For jabba before joining the rebels? Then I could field the Falcon and Slave 1 on the same team. Oh my...what did I just type?

after losing with her double scum Firespray + HWK build,

so I was planning to make that possible but with scum Lando & scum Boba.

Here's the Scum YT-1300 stat line:

N O P E

You sound,

S C A R E D

because you know it's inevitable.

such negativity :o

don't worry, have faith in ffg. They learned from their horrible ****-ups :P and have done a great job of keeping scum fat free

Here's the Scum YT-1300 stat line:

N O P E

You sound,

S C A R E D

because you know it's inevitable.

such negativity :o

don't worry, have faith in ffg. They learned from their horrible ****-ups :P and have done a great job of keeping scum fat free

It's not negativity. It's justice. We Scummers are fat and proud of it! Ask any of my Hut or Gamorrean chums.

do huts even actually pilot spaceships?

I guess they get a hot twleak or w.e its called to do it for them

You can't think of it as turret proliferation at this point. The YT's are already there and giving them to another faction which, quite frankly, have more original provenance to the ships than the rebels do.

The number turret jockey blow-hards we have already wont increase, they'll just move over to the Scum faction where they originally belonged. You can certainly bet that the Scum's wont have access to anything nearly as useful as 3P0, or the Falcon title (it will get errata'd as Rebel only) or get anything like abilities ignoring obstacles so the panic can stop. Giving the Scum the Outrider title is the only thing that I see coming over and without Dash I don't see that being a total game changer in the slightest.

remember the brown-colored rule: "it can always get worse"

Personally, I'm just going go to hug my non-existant YV-666 model and tell myself everything will be okay... :(

remember the brown-colored rule: "it can always get worse"

Personally, I'm just going go to hug my non-existant YV-666 model and tell myself everything will be okay... :(

With the introduction of the abomination that is the K-Wing, I'm about ready to just go Strangelove on turrets.

don't worry, have faith in ffg. They learned from their horrible ****-ups :P and have done a great job of keeping scum fat free

For the single wave that has only been out for, what, 3-4 months?

don't worry, have faith in ffg. They learned from their horrible ****-ups :P and have done a great job of keeping scum fat free

For the single wave that has only been out for, what, 3-4 months?

next wave, too!

batting 2 - 0 so far :D

don't worry, have faith in ffg. They learned from their horrible ****-ups :P and have done a great job of keeping scum fat free

For the single wave that has only been out for, what, 3-4 months?

next wave, too!

batting 2 - 0 so far :D

EDIT: On a more serious note, I suppose FFG is monitoring the tournament results, at least to some extent.

Whatever they're trying to do with Scum is currently not working (the Regionals 2015 thread has 6 wins fir Rebels and Imperials, and only 1 for Scum. If the situation doesn't improve 2-3 Waves down the road, I expect Scum to get a fat turret of their own then.

Edited by LordBlades