There are all kinds of YT's and several of them certainly belong in this STAR WARS product.

... and don't forget that Otana too!

The more pancakes that are in this game the better I like it!

rational?

we have Boba and Kath as imperial and now scum.

why not Han and Dash?

the precedent has been set. it can and may happen,

yeah I said it.

don't get mad at me, im just pointing out the facts

no, don't worry. we all love the scum versions of the firespray, I am sure the YT-1300 and 2400 will be just as cool.

now that's the idea

lets keep on this topic of cross faction ships.......

rebel shuttle anyone?

hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

In fact I do not wish to see scum 1300s but should it come I think the ship should have the lesser stat line and ffg do something interesting to make me want a 30pointish turret with 2 attack

They have, it's called a Wild Space Fringer

FFG's Star Wars LCG has both a "Scum & Villainy" faction (for the dark side) and "Smugglers & Spies" faction (for the light side).

I could see them putting S&S out as a fourth faction later, with a rebooted YT-1300 in that set and alternate Han (much like Boba Fett).

This is the most common (and most modified) ship in the galaxy! Of course it should be released for S&V! I'm hoping they put a new twist on it. Han's ship is built for speed. He's got the hull and the guns to keep pirates off of him until he makes the jump to hyperspace.

Pirates, on the other hand, are not looking to run. They are there to fight and steal! The S&V YTs should reflect that.

On the other hand though... the MF is a smuggler's ship. Fits the S&V profile.

rational?

we have Boba and Kath as imperial and now scum.

why not Han and Dash?

the precedent has been set. it can and may happen,

yeah I said it.

don't get mad at me, im just pointing out the facts

no, don't worry. we all love the scum versions of the firespray, I am sure the YT-1300 and 2400 will be just as cool.

now that's the idea

INB4

I really don't want them to make repaints of large ships. It's too expensive to keep up with (and I won't be able to resist). I think a second Most Wanted box that converts more ships would be nice, though.

I feel this will happen and probably sooner than later. Here's a few points to a case for them:

1. They did it for Scum Boba.

2. You will be able to use ships you already own.

3. It's Thematically Correct (let's not forget Han and the Gang were drug smugglers and murderers who worked for the Scum).

4. Han is a bulleted Title Card. No Han on Han action but they would need new pilot talents, of course.

5. The YT's synergize well with the Scum faction as long as there are no Rebel Only upgrades, seems "not broken".

6. Greedo! Han can fly with The Greeds and scream all day as Greedo wrecks the Falcon (backstory, y'all).

7. Azzameens!

We have been flying the basic model YT's for months with Scum as a house rule and have had no issues, just fun (not really a Fat Han fan anyways). Now, we don't participate in the Tourney thing and Theme is a big deal for us. So, admittedly we haven't considered the implications of using them in that kind of situation.

Bring on the YT Most Wanted!

lets keep on this topic of cross faction ships.......

rebel shuttle anyone?

hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

The shuttle sucks... even I in my Boss-Glory only have one of them... cause they suck.

Yeah but doom-it, corner-cheese-ass-it... nope ... still sucks...

More YT's for everyone!

Boba IS SCUM... by the way, and so are all of the rest.

lets keep on this topic of cross faction ships.......

rebel shuttle anyone?

hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

The shuttle sucks... even I in my Boss-Glory only have one of them... cause they suck.

Yeah but doom-it, corner-cheese-ass-it... nope ... still sucks...

More YT's for everyone!

Boba IS SCUM... by the way, and so are all of the rest.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Shuttles are the Imperial B-wing and they're awesome.

Also, how about a Scum shuttle? Jodo Kast has the Foxcatch.

So I've seen a lot of talk on these boards about giving scum access to the YT-1300s specifically for some of the azameen family. This has got me thinking more about the Millennium Falcon expansion and there is something very unique about this expansion, the generic YT-1300 has a different stat line than the named pilots.

I along with many others presume this to be that all the named pilots are flying the highly modified Millennium Falcon. would scum pilots also be flying the millennium Falcon? I think not.

So would future YT-1300 really deserve the Falcon's stat line or does it deserve the generic stat line?

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! *throws up*

If it's not Scum versions of Han, Lando, or Chewie (though I'm not sure if the Falcon had the double quads when Lando owned it), you shouldn't be using the Falcon's statline.

lets keep on this topic of cross faction ships.......

rebel shuttle anyone?

hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

The shuttle sucks... even I in my Boss-Glory only have one of them... cause they suck.

Yeah but doom-it, corner-cheese-ass-it... nope ... still sucks...

More YT's for everyone!

Boba IS SCUM... by the way, and so are all of the rest.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Shuttles are the Imperial B-wing and they're awesome.

Also, how about a Scum shuttle? Jodo Kast has the Foxcatch.

Meh... I know what I am talking about just fine thanks, and and I still do not like cows much.

There are all kinds of YT's and several of them certainly belong in this STAR WARS product.

That's not a YT, though.

That's a Ghtroc .

And much more of a space turtle than a pancake.

There are all kinds of YT's and several of them certainly belong in this STAR WARS product.

That's not a YT, though.

That's a Ghtroc .

And much more of a space turtle than a pancake.

Yeah you are right... good point.

There are some other freighters that come up when you do a YT search, that are kinda YT, but are not YT class.

That's not a YT, though.

That's a Ghtroc .

And much more of a space turtle than a pancake.

Space turtle?

That's not a space turtle...

... that's a Space Turtle.

That's not a YT, though.

That's a Ghtroc .

And much more of a space turtle than a pancake.

Space turtle?

That's not a space turtle...

... that's a Space Turtle.

You went way past old school wit dat one.

I really don't want them to make repaints of large ships. It's too expensive to keep up with (and I won't be able to resist). I think a second Most Wanted box that converts more ships would be nice, though.

I think this would be the best way to go.

Two new small ships. YT conversion cards and some other ship conversion cards. A scum aces pack would be awesome!

lets keep on this topic of cross faction ships.......

rebel shuttle anyone?

hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

I wouldn't listen to fools who think they are better designers than FFG staff.

Anything that confuses him, like the Lambda, is bad in his books.

But guess what, the Lambda was on a list that won the USA Nationals,

so him saying they suck just shows how out of touch he is.

lets keep on this topic of cross faction ships.......

rebel shuttle anyone?

hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

The shuttle sucks... even I in my Boss-Glory only have one of them... cause they suck.

Yeah but doom-it, corner-cheese-ass-it... nope ... still sucks...

More YT's for everyone!

Boba IS SCUM... by the way, and so are all of the rest.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Shuttles are the Imperial B-wing and they're awesome.

Also, how about a Scum shuttle? Jodo Kast has the Foxcatch.

2014 USA Nationals Winner

• Winner - Rick Sidebotham (#1 Swiss, 23 pts, 754 MoV, flight 1): Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Fire-Control Systems + Advanced Cloaking Device + Gunner; Soontir Fel + Push the Limit; Captain Yorr.

Here's the Scum YT-1300 stat line:

2 1 6 4

Fixed it for ya

I think if there is going to be a Scum YT-1300 it might come in a conversion with another expansion much like HWK-290 and Firesprays were converted. So the Scum and Villainy would have to get another large ship.

Now the question would be what would the S&V do with another large ship? They already got 2 and only imperials have 3 with one being somewhat more of a support ship than a line ship (but can be modified into 1).

Now for the stat line we all could agree there would be the ORS stat with maybe 1 notable pilot having the falcon 3 1 8 5 stat line but that would also be the problem. You don't see that many 2 firepower turrets out there because they are not that good. Only a gimmicky list uses the ORS and you will never see a competitive build that has the YT-2400 without the outrider title.

So if there were only 1 pilot say Lando (S&V pilot) with the falcon stat line and 2 other unique pilots and the ORS counterpart with the weaker 2 1 6 4 stat line even if they were cheaper they would not be fielded because 2 firepower turrets is not that good. They are a big target and attract a lot of red dice so they need to have minimum of 3 firepower because they take up at least 2 ships worth of points. Two academy pilots would be 4 firepower so turrets actually take away firepower from the squadron list.

Here's the Scum YT-1300 stat line:

2 1 6 4

Fixed it for ya

I think if there is going to be a Scum YT-1300 it might come in a conversion with another expansion much like HWK-290 and Firesprays were converted. So the Scum and Villainy would have to get another large ship.

Now the question would be what would the S&V do with another large ship? They already got 2 and only imperials have 3 with one being somewhat more of a support ship than a line ship (but can be modified into 1).

Now for the stat line we all could agree there would be the ORS stat with maybe 1 notable pilot having the falcon 3 1 8 5 stat line but that would also be the problem. You don't see that many 2 firepower turrets out there because they are not that good. Only a gimmicky list uses the ORS and you will never see a competitive build that has the YT-2400 without the outrider title.

So if there were only 1 pilot say Lando (S&V pilot) with the falcon stat line and 2 other unique pilots and the ORS counterpart with the weaker 2 1 6 4 stat line even if they were cheaper they would not be fielded because 2 firepower turrets is not that good. They are a big target and attract a lot of red dice so they need to have minimum of 3 firepower because they take up at least 2 ships worth of points. Two academy pilots would be 4 firepower so turrets actually take away firepower from the squadron list.

V2, fixed the upgrade icons.

Stellar Envoy gives you the evade action for 1 point.

...

Not exactly sure that this upgrade is worth the points. Lets take a look at a similar upgrade.

Now the one thing about upgrades that add to the upgrade bar they are going to make the ship more expensive. If you are spending points to spend more points that considerably raise the cost. So costing 1 point alone there better be a good upgrade or else that would be a waste of points. So for 2 points you are taking all upgrade and adding 2 points to that upgrade making this upgrade very expensive.

Now on for the upgrades that are added. That is going to depend on what ship you are adding those upgrades. For the illicit upgrades, only 2 upgrades could be useful and the term useful is rather subjective, I should say there is only 2 illicit upgrade that are not worse than your primary attack. The first inertial dampeners and the second one is dead mans switch and both of those are only able to be used once and only once. ID is discarded once you use it and dead man switch is when the ship gets destroyed (assuming it is not the last one).

Now as for turrets, The YT-1300 already has a turreted weapon and having a secondary weapon means that the atacker has to choose between a primary weapon or a secondary weapon but not both (BTL-A4 is the only exception). Turrets upgrades are only range 1-2 with autoblater turret only being 1. At range 1 the ORS will be rolling 3 attack dice without having to spend a focus to use blaster turret. Autoblaster turret is just like the cannon upgrade removing one attack die. Ion cannon turret reduces your damage to 1 hit.

So there you go for 2 points no one would take that upgrade even on an ORS. For 0 points it is still unlikely depending on what upgrade slots it can give but a turret would not be a good slot for certain.