New tiles with Twins

By Filter, in Star Wars: Imperial Assault

I was wondering if FFG would do it and they did. This could open even more settings like Hoth, Dagoba or Bespin. Release box sets with tiles and stuff to uses them. Guess a Hoth set would possibly be good sized as it'd be the only snow tiles.

I was thinking the other day about a speeder bike chase type or set but figured you'd need to make a long map like 5-6 squares wide and make it an "S" or "U" shape layout. Set comes with like 2 imperial and 1 or 2 Rebel bikes. Just not sure how it'd be played as I can see people just turning bike around and attacking a pursuer rather boringly.

I think the real question is whether the future expansions will use tiles from each set or just their own tiles like Descent.

I'd happily pay for a campaign expansions later on that just uses the components from all the expansions.

Twin suns doesn't add any new environments does it? It looked like just more desert and imperial base. Which is still awesome.

There are 12 new tiles in the TS box, which probably means they will be used together with vanilla tiles.

There are 12 new tiles in the TS box, which probably means they will be used together with vanilla tiles.

I have a funny feeling that's not how it worked with Descent. Or maybe it was just the big box expansion campaigns which never used any core set tiles.

There are 12 new tiles in the TS box, which probably means they will be used together with vanilla tiles.

My bet is that they are mainly 'rooms' and you'll reuse the connectors, etc.

There are 12 new tiles in the TS box, which probably means they will be used together with vanilla tiles.

My bet is that they are mainly 'rooms' and you'll reuse the connectors, etc.

Seconded.

Using the Descent model, this is a 'small box expansion' which appears to use the identical setting. It'll likely include larger 'room' tiles to coincide with specific side-missions and skirmish plots.

I would imagine a 'big box expansion' to be a new setting like Hoth and be self contained (tile-wise).

A big box expansion will have 4 environments, 2 indoor and 2 outdoor.

It could be yavin and hoth exterior plus cloud city and rebel base (hoth/yavin) interior.

A campaign could then visit those planets plus any core set environments.

In D2E small box expansions rely on core set tiles but never on tiles from other boxes, this does limit what can go in these small expansions. Since D2e was released there have only been 3 small boxes, at that rate of release the core environments can last a while.

I don't imagine that will hold true for the figure packs.

There is a skirmish map in the new expansion, that has to make use of the new tiles.

So what happens if a skirmish map from an expansion makes it onto the list of maps used for organised play, does it mean that only players who bought the expansion can take part?

I think FFG still has work to do with their organised play for this game.

So what happens if a skirmish map from an expansion makes it onto the list of maps used for organised play, does it mean that only players who bought the expansion can take part?

I think FFG still has work to do with their organised play for this game.

This brings up an entirely new discussion.

It will be interesting to see how they handle this. Hopefully they've foreseen this issue and have a plan, but we are talking about FFG here and their OP track record has been questionable before. I can't imagine they'd make maps tournament legal that require expansion tiles as that potentially excludes players.

One more reason for them to release playmats.

So what happens if a skirmish map from an expansion makes it onto the list of maps used for organised play, does it mean that only players who bought the expansion can take part?

I think FFG still has work to do with their organised play for this game.

This brings up an entirely new discussion.

It will be interesting to see how they handle this. Hopefully they've foreseen this issue and have a plan, but we are talking about FFG here and their OP track record has been questionable before. I can't imagine they'd make maps tournament legal that require expansion tiles as that potentially excludes players.

Forget where I saw it, but someone posted printable PDFs of the skirmish maps already laid out. I could totally see a bunch of those coming in a tournament pack, or selling them for tournament use. In the scheme of mini games, its typically up to the tournament host to make sure they have terrain for the number of players they expect. Sometimes that means they get people to pitch in, sometimes that means they provide it on their own.

Edited by theruleslawyer

This brings up an entirely new discussion.

Right now the only maps that are legal are Mos Eisley Outskirts , Massassi Ruins , and Moisture Farm .

There's no way people will use only those 3 maps for the next 5 years.

Do more "maps" come with the expansion packs? I don't have mine yet so I don't know. If they could make another 6-9 maps out of the core set, they could rotate them around each season which would keep things fresh.

But if they can't then they'll need to do something to make new maps. On the one hand I could see them saying that if you want to play in the big tournaments, you need to buy the expansion packs, but at the same time that seems to go against how they do things. I've not see anything in X-Wing for example that would require a given expansion pack to play. You don't need to have a Outrider or Decimator for example because you need to use debris tokens. The only thing you need is the core set and what ever ships you want to play with.

So I think it really depends on how much they can do with the tiles from the core set, how many maps that work for Skirmish can you make from those?

Edited by VanorDM

One more reason for them to release playmats.

Have a look on the BGG. ;)

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http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1339350/skirmish-map-images

That should be more helpful.

Do more "maps" come with the expansion packs? I don't have mine yet so I don't know. If they could make another 6-9 maps out of the core set, they could rotate them around each season which would keep things fresh.

Each booster and expansion does indeed come equipped with a Skirmish mission/map. Just like the Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker packs within the core set.

Edited by Muz333

I'd happily pay for a campaign expansions later on that just uses the components from all the expansions.

I found an old book for Descent that was nothing but new quests using various tiles from the core set and its expansions. I'm not sure if they repeated that for 2nd edition, but it's certainly a good idea.

I kinda figured it was a no brainer that the tiles in the expansion were themselves expansions(requiring the core set's tiles to complete a map layout). They most likely represent large rooms and such for use with new missions from the box.

My orginal thought was if FFG would produce more map tiles as expansions and that proved to be the case with this release. So I now wonder how far it could go seeing as a tile set centered on Hoth would be fairly unique and possibly a large set containing both interior Echo Base tiles, trench tiles, snowy plains/mountains/etc maybe interior ice cave(Wampa cave).

Edited by Filter

I'd happily pay for a campaign expansions later on that just uses the components from all the expansions.

I found an old book for Descent that was nothing but new quests using various tiles from the core set and its expansions. I'm not sure if they repeated that for 2nd edition, but it's certainly a good idea.

I believe there is an impending release of a campaign book for use with the core set. As my understanding goes it makes no use of any expansion material.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2014/11/20/heirs-of-blood/

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I do wonder if we will see any Descent styled COOP expansions that have no Imperial player. It would allow solo play at least.

Edited by Muz333

Each booster and expansion does indeed come equipped with a Skirmish mission/map.

Yeah got mine last night, and so now we have 10 skirmish maps and 20 missions. That's actually a fair amount of variety, so I could see getting a lot of years out of just those 10.

I could see them releasing skirmish maps with the R2-D2 & C-3PO, Fett, and Somos that don't require the Twin Shadows tiles. In X-Wing anyway, they never assume anyone will own anything other then that expansion and the core set. They may or may not do the same here.

A couple of lines that really stood out to me are:

"In addition, twelve new double-sided map tiles draw you deeper into the Star Wars™ universe. You may find yourself on the bridge of an Imperial Star Destroyer or engaged in a firefight in a Mos Eisley cantina ."

"You may find yourself desperately trying to escape to the Millennium Falcon , and with Biv as a soldier in your strike team, his powerful attacks and deadly precision can mow down any hostile figure that stands in your way."

An Imperial Bridge? Sweet! We can already see the Cantina. I don't know if they are saying there will be a falcon tile, where you can actually move around and even fight inside the falcon...I kinda doubt it because it would have to be huge...but that would be the coolest frekin thing ever and worth the cost alone.