If one ship is running Wingman on a PS 5

At the start of the Combat phase, remove 1 stress token from another friendly ship at Range 1.

and the other Opportunist on a PS 5

When attacking, if the defender does not have any focus or evade tokens, you may receive 1 stress token to roll 1 additional attack die. You cannot use this ability if you have any stress tokens.

What would be the flow?

I see it as all happening at the same time and eliminates the stress. My opponent saw it as the Opportunist occures during combat, not at the start. So he thinks the stress stays Which is it? Does the PS of the pilot factor in?

Thanks

Your opponent in is correct. "At the start of the Combat Phase" means exactly that: at the start of the phase as a whole, before any ship attacks. Opportunist triggers when its ship attacks during the Combat Phase, so by that time Wingman's trigger point has come and gone.

The best Wingman can do is clear the stress at the start of the next Combat phase, but even then only if the Opportunist ship didn't clear it with a green move. The two cards don't really interact well at all.

The best Wingman can do is clear the stress at the start of the next Combat phase, but even then only if the Opportunist ship didn't clear it with a green move. The two cards don't really interact well at all.

Well, they can. If the Opportunist ship takes a red turn or otherwise stresses itself prior to combat the Wingman can clear the stress so Opportunist may trigger.

Say a couple of BSP's and a Defender like Vessery.

Wingman triggers at the start of combat and is all done at say PS 100. Is there any Stress to remove now?

Opportunist triggers when the attack is made on the ship's turn or PS 5 in this example.

The best you could hope for is Wingman clearing some preexisting Stress from a ship so that the ship may use Opportunist later on in the round.

Also, Wingman is not an optional ability. You must remove stress from a friendly ship at range one even if you would prefer that ship to keep the stress (this mostly affects Ibtisam and Keyan).

Wow this card seems to be almost worthless.

Wow this card seems to be almost worthless.

Which card is "this card?"

Opportunist generally is not seens as an upgrade that most would choose to use.

I ment Wingman but it can apply to both. I guess I'm not finding there fit in the game as the designers wanted.

I ment Wingman but it can apply to both. I guess I'm not finding there fit in the game as the designers wanted.

Its there to clear activation-phase stress, not combat-phase stress.

Consider the following:

2x Delta [Defender] + Engine Upgrades

2x Black [Fighter] + Wingman

The fleet can fly in formation all day, as the Wingmen clear the Delta's stress while Turning, and clear each other's stress while Koiograning.

Wingman is useful as hell, it's just hard to find a ship to put it on that wouldn't benefit more from a different EPT.

The main reason I think Wingman isn't seen more is that it activates at the beginning of the Combat Phase.

This means that, yes, it'll open up your dial for the next round and allow you to perform actions in the Combat Phase (if you have any abilities to do so).

However, if you performed a red maneuver, you still lost your action for the round, and actions are bloody important.

If it was something along the lines of:

"Once per round, during the activation phase, when a friendly ship at range 1 is assigned 1 stress token, you may discard that token."

it'd see a LOT more play, and would probably costed a lot higher.

However, you still lost your action for the round ...

Not necessarily. Wingman may remove stress caused by PTL, EI or daredevil.

However, you still lost your action for the round ...

Not necessarily. Wingman may remove stress caused by PTL, EI or daredevil.

I amended my post to state: "However, if you performed a red maneuver, you still lost your action for the round"

I wrote it mostly with Dracon's example in mind, where Wingman was used to clear stress from red maneuvers.

It works well if you have a unit like Cracken that can give a free action during the combat phase. Say Corran K-turns to get in a good firing position, but loses his action due to stress, another pilot with wingman takes the stress before combat. Cracken then fires and gives Corran a free action, which could be a target lock in this case.

Try 4 x GSP, A-Wing Test Pilot, Autothrusters, Chardaan Refit, Wingman, Stay on Target

Wingman isn't a bad EPT it's just one that is a little bit harder to fully utilize. It can be great with Cracken, which is where you get it, but don't discount it clearing maneuver based stress or stress from actions you had taken earlier.

I use both cards to great effect with my S&V builds. They're awesome.

I think I would've preferred Wingman had it triggered after the Combat Phase.

Could have been nice insurance against Tactician and Rebel Captive, and combo'ed very nicely with R3-A2!

I always take a wingman with my shuttle's

Then I can perfore 0 moves all day!!

wingman can keep Issard from being stressed canceled.

I run them on 2x GSPs in my Corran list.

Corran, PTL, FCS, R2-D2

2x GSP, PTL, Wingman, Concussion Missiles

The A-Wings get a large maneuverability and/or survivability boost, which they can use to block and aid Corran after they drop their load. It works very well, as long as I don't screw up their activation and position them wrong.