Lords of Nal Hutta - Aren`t Hutts Hemaphroditic anymore?

By RodianClone, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

I am not a big continuity fanatic, but I can`t see in the Hutt description in the New Player Options chapter of Lords of Nal Hutta, that the hutts are hemaphroditic.
I would think that this was an important physical and social distinction for the species, but the book seems to use "him" for some specific hutts and "her" for others.
Have they ignored this aspect of the race? For many players, the species description would likely be the only thing they read regarding making and playing a hutt character,

so I find it strange that it isn`t mentioned.
I haven`t read the entire book yet, but I haven`t seen it in the parts I have read so far, about hutt culture and society or anything else either. Am I wrong? Did I just miss it?

Most hermaphrodites (real life human ones) associate more strongly with one gender than the other. Most languages have pronouns like him, her, she, his, ect. but none for hermaphrodites. Also in those languages referring to a sentient as "it" is generally considered rude. So there you go. When translating Hutteese into basic the translator droid ascribes male or female pronouns given the gender that the subject Hutt associates more strongly with. The alternative is unintentionally using a derogatory term for the subject and being sent to the scrap yard.

Edited by Ryoden

Some things I prefer to just delve too deeply into...

Most hermaphrodites (real life human ones) associate more strongly with one gender than the other. Most languages have pronouns like him, her, she, his, ect. but none for hermaphrodites. Also in those languages referring to a sentient as "it" is generally considered rude. So there you go. When translating Hutteese into basic the translator droid ascribes male or female pronouns given the gender that the subject Hutt associates more strongly with. The alternative is unintentionally using a derogatory term for the subject and being sent to the scrap yard.

I know that and it is a valid point. However, I would argue that it`s such an important part of the hutt physiology and life that it should be mentioned in the Hutt Space setting and at least in the species description.

The fact that they are hemaphroditic is a huge aspect of the race. A hutt charater could be both a father and a mother! It seems like a big deal. And I don`t even know if it is mentioned at all.

The Lords of Nal Hutta is a great book, but no mention(?) of hutt special gender situation puzzles me.

Edit: I don`t care much about the terms they us, he, she, it, whatever. I just wanted it to be mentioned and maybe have a few lines about if or how it affects their culture, society and way of living.

If they are both male and female, shouldn`t they have twi`lek dancers of both genders?

Edited by RodianClone

If it's not mentioned in any canon sources then that may be an element of the EU/Legends that doesn't make the transition and so FFG might not have included it for that reason.

If it's not mentioned in any canon sources then that may be an element of the EU/Legends that doesn't make the transition and so FFG might not have included it for that reason.

In Clone Wars I believe.

If it's not mentioned in any canon sources then that may be an element of the EU/Legends that doesn't make the transition and so FFG might not have included it for that reason.

In Clone Wars I believe.

In The Clone Wars the main characters encounter a definitively female oriented Hutt. She is referred to as "Mother" or "Mama" and she refers to her "sons" but I don't recall any mention of hermaphroditic genders.

Ziro the Hutt is a little ambiguous, but I always thought that was part of the fun. :)

I considered retconning his eventual fate so I could play him as the GM in a game just because I find his accent and style hilarious :)

I don't have the book, but here's the way Star Wars Legends has it....

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hutts

Similar to worms, Hutts were hermaphrodites which meant they had both male and female reproductive organs. ... As a result of this, gender was more of a case of a Hutt's deliberate decision or a viewer's deduction. Often, Hutts carrying children were referred to as female, though it was entirely up to the Hutt in question as to if the distinction was accepted or not.

The canon examples we have do not contradict this, and rather seem to imply it.

And in fact Filoni talks about it in an early interview about Ziro the Hutt, here .

Edited by awayputurwpn

Some things I prefer to just delve too deeply into...

sexy_jabba_the_hut_valentine_by_sowcrazy

(I'd subtitle it for Haley, but trust me girl - some things are better left unseen. . . .)

Some things I prefer to just delve too deeply into...

sexy_jabba_the_hut_valentine_by_sowcrazy

(I'd subtitle it for Haley, but trust me girl - some things are better left unseen. . . .)

The world is a dark and seamy place. You cannot hope to protect her.

(The image is of a large hutt creature in what can arguably be described as a "sexy" pose with "arms" behind their "head". The doe-like eyes beckon the viewer while the purple pasties with black tassels leave something to the imagination. A white text box with a pink polka dot border offers, "Let's explore my folds together, Valentine!" Presumably the search will be for forgotten klatooine paddy frogs as hutts can have gluttonous appetites.)

FFG probably just didn't want to breach the subject and make it a prominent part of character creation in their game.

That said, its absence from an RPG book doesn't necessarily mean it is no longer valid, as there's a lot of obscure facts that don't always make it into these sourcebooks. Anyone deeply invested in established setting material (such as myself) should still be free to include it as a character trait, as nothing so far inherently contradicts it.

To be fair, they didn't really call out genders for other species, or perhaps I am remembering incorrectly.

They did mention the mating practices of Sullustans and Selonians, but the Hutts are pretty much an anomaly in the Star Wars universe, being hermaphroditic, at least as far as I know.

If they are both male and female, shouldn`t they have twi`lek dancers of both genders?

Not necessarily. Biological sexual organs have ****-all to do with attraction. Hutts being a hermaphroditic species doesn't change what individual ones might find sexy; being hermaphrodites does not automatically make them bi- or pansexual.

Are Hutts capable of autofertilization, or does it take two Hutts to create offspring?

If they are both male and female, shouldn`t they have twi`lek dancers of both genders?

Not necessarily. Biological sexual organs have ****-all to do with attraction. Hutts being a hermaphroditic species doesn't change what individual ones might find sexy; being hermaphrodites does not automatically make them bi- or pansexual.

I know. But it doesn`t make them all attracted to females either. I will have some hutt crime lords in my game with all male or mixed gender dancers too.

Edited by RodianClone

Are Hutts capable of autofertilization, or does it take two Hutts to create offspring?

I have no idea. It would have been nice if they answered these questions in the book.

To be fair, they didn't really call out genders for other species, or perhaps I am remembering incorrectly.

Why call it out if there is nothing out of the ordinary? Most known aliens in the Galaxy seem to be very human in this regard, two genders and even human gender roles for some reason.

Are Hutts capable of autofertilization, or does it take two Hutts to create offspring?

I think not.

Similar to worms, Hutts were hermaphrodites which meant they had both male and female reproductive organs. [7] One reason for this was because of their race's fertility rate being very low that was possibly a consequence of damage following the loss of their original homeworld of Varl. [22] As a result of this, gender was more of a case of a Hutt's deliberate decision or a viewer's deduction. Often, Hutts carrying children were referred to as female, though it was entirely up to the Hutt in question as to if the distinction was accepted or not. For instance, Jiliac was referred to as a female after becoming pregnant, but Popara and Zorba still considered themselves males after birthing their respective children. In addition, some Hutts were known to take mates with each other, such as Gorga and Anachro . Hutts bore their children one at a time and nourished them within what was known as a brood pouch . [7]

taken from wookiepedia.

Two words: Love Dart. :wub:

Are Hutts capable of autofertilization, or does it take two Hutts to create offspring?

I have no idea. It would have been nice if they answered these questions in the book.

To be fair, they didn't really call out genders for other species, or perhaps I am remembering incorrectly.

Why call it out if there is nothing out of the ordinary? Most known aliens in the Galaxy seem to be very human in this regard, two genders and even human gender roles for some reason.

Because those are the easiest to relate to and therefore play given that we're all human...

Are Hutts capable of autofertilization, or does it take two Hutts to create offspring?

I have no idea. It would have been nice if they answered these questions in the book.

To be fair, they didn't really call out genders for other species, or perhaps I am remembering incorrectly.

Why call it out if there is nothing out of the ordinary? Most known aliens in the Galaxy seem to be very human in this regard, two genders and even human gender roles for some reason.

Because those are the easiest to relate to and therefore play given that we're all human...

What did you answer now? I get why they are all very human and relatable, this is space opera after all. I just said that there are no reason for calling out gender if they are the norm. Hutt gender on the other hand...

WEG described Hutts as hermaphrodites in their species Galaxy Guide I believe which would probably be the first mention of it. Phantom Menace simply confused the matter further with what is identified as a female Hutt alongside Jabba during the Boonta Eve podraces. As the older Legends EU material likely didn't supercede the movie representation I am sure FFG just went with the two gender movie interpretation.

WEG described Hutts as hermaphrodites in their species Galaxy Guide I believe which would probably be the first mention of it. Phantom Menace simply confused the matter further with what is identified as a female Hutt alongside Jabba during the Boonta Eve podraces. As the older Legends EU material likely didn't supercede the movie representation I am sure FFG just went with the two gender movie interpretation.

Gardulla is a feminine hutt and appears female, but I belive that is more or less by choice.

Wookiepedia: "Gender Hermaphrodite (feminine personality)"

Edited by RodianClone

Hutts are male usually unless they are having a kid then they are female.