"Equip ANY Ship Title"

By Crabbok, in X-Wing

EDIT - Idea should be for a 5 point Unique Illicit upgrade that grants the ability to equip ANY title.

I'd imagine that someday we'll see an upgrade that will allow us to equip ANY ship title card onto a ship. Why? Well hear me out: Why do we actually need a title for the aggressor? There are no generic pilots, there is no situation in which anyone would opt NOT to use it, and this wasn't a "fix" card - so there is no logic reason NOT to have the card on every build.

So why have a whole separate card? Why not just give each other IG a second ability that reads: "You gain each other friendly IG-88's ability"? Naturally I'd think it boils down to mechanics - this allows it to avoid some infinite loops, or some broken combo - but in this case I simply can't see it. So maybe it is for future expansion? One possibility is a separate title that could go on the Aggressor in PLACE of the IG-2000 title, but it's a little early for a second title for that ship. Maybe it's a generic title that can go on ANY ship? That sounds a little more reasonable. Like maybe a title card that simply reads "Beefy", and it costs 12, increases attack by 1. Can go on any ship. Unique. I dunno, I doubt something like that, because that effect seems a bit too much like a modification..... But the third option is an upgrade that allows you to take any title.

  • I'd imagine it would be a SCUM card, as forging titles seems kinda like a scum-type thing to do.
  • It coudl be an illicit upgrade, which would by default limit it to the scum faction, but that would also limit what ships coudl take it.
  • It could be a crew - like someone who is masking the ship's signature, disguising them as someone else. Call her "Identity Masker". but then again that would limit what ships coudl use it... but then open it up to multiple factions.

What broken combos could arrise from being able to put ANY title on a ship? Obviously the IG-2000 comes to mind, but so does the new TIE Advanced x1 title, and the A-Wing Test Pilot title....

Edited by Crabbok

The reason for titles is much, much simpler. Not enough room to put it on the card. I really don't see them allowing them to share titles.

I dunno. All they needed to write is "All Friendly IG-88s gain: " right before the pilot ability. 4 words don't really justify a whole separate card - UNLESS you are planning something else that would have synergy with it.

But by making it a title, if they ever release another title for the Aggressor, then you'd have to choose which one you want. It actually opens up design possibilities.

I think it has to do with the language FFG uses on the cards, actually. Thus far, they have never referred to a ship, pilot, or upgrade name within the rules text of a card. The IG-2000 title allows aggressors to share abilities without needing to break that practice.

So why have a whole separate card? Why not just give each other IG a second ability that reads: "You gain each other friendly IG-88's ability"?

Space, plus if you're only running one IG...

Edited by TIE Pilot

So am I the only one that thinks we'll see some kind of Identity Theft card that allows you to equip any title?

I don't think we'll see it to be honest. I'm not purist kind of guy but can you imagine the rage threads that will happen when you start putting down z-95's and say that one is the millennium falcon, that one is the outrider, that one is the Tantive 4, that one is a royal guard tie, that one is an A-wing test pilot, that one is the dauntless, and that one is slave 1 lol.

So am I the only one that thinks we'll see some kind of Identity Theft card that allows you to equip any title?

I think that is the general idea.

So why have a whole separate card? Why not just give each other IG a second ability that reads: "You gain each other friendly IG-88's ability"?

Space, plus if you're only running one IG...

then you can still equip the title :D

I do that with Boba and Slave 1 just to appease my inner and outer nerd ^_^

I don't think we'll see it to be honest. I'm not purist kind of guy but can you imagine the rage threads that will happen when you start putting down z-95's and say that one is the millennium falcon, that one is the outrider, that one is the Tantive 4, that one is a royal guard tie, that one is an A-wing test pilot, that one is the dauntless, and that one is slave 1 lol.

Depending on how the card is worded it could make sense. We know that some ships, like the Ghost in Rebels, for example can mask their signature. The idea here is that the ship would be modified as such, so that it sends out a false signal.

"Our sensors are picking up a YT-1300 freighter, it registers as the Millenium Falcon"...

"But that's impossible... the Falcon's docked right here! - someone sending out a false transponder code!"

Thematically it could work.

But, again, thematically, how do you justify its use/existence past the first round of the game? "Well, I clearly see a HWK, but my sensors say it's the Millennium Falcon, so what do my eyes know"? Something like this would be useful *before* the dogfight started, storywise, not once you get involved in it. Besides, why would being able to fool someone into thinking you're the Falcon somehow give you the Falcon title's ability?

TIE Defenders and Shuttles would get a nice little boost from the Outrider card ;)

Anyway, I'm sure the IG-2000 title was just an issue of space on the card more than anything. Keeping the pilot and ship abilities separate allows them to keep things clear and not worry about cramming too many words into a small space to make it all work.

But, again, thematically, how do you justify its use/existence past the first round of the game? "Well, I clearly see a HWK, but my sensors say it's the Millennium Falcon, so what do my eyes know"? Something like this would be useful *before* the dogfight started, storywise, not once you get involved in it. Besides, why would being able to fool someone into thinking you're the Falcon somehow give you the Falcon title's ability?

That is a good point. So perhaps rather than faking out the sensors, an upgrade doing this shoudl focus on actually modifing the ship itself. Extra Tropedo slot for the Slave 1 title, Increased thrusters for the evade action via Falcon title, etc. I could totally see this as an illicit upgrade, and it would probably be costly. Maybe a 5 point upgrade just to give you the ability - and then you still have to pay for the title. That would make it scum only and probably only get used for the HWK or the IG-2000.

So am I the only one that thinks we'll see some kind of Identity Theft card that allows you to equip any title?

Yes. Such a card would be game-breaking.

If the "Identity Theft" card was non-generic, I want a fleet full of Serriseu/Palob/Fett.

Because screw you, attack dice.

I don't think we'll see it to be honest. I'm not purist kind of guy but can you imagine the rage threads that will happen when you start putting down z-95's and say that one is the millennium falcon, that one is the outrider, that one is the Tantive 4, that one is a royal guard tie, that one is an A-wing test pilot, that one is the dauntless, and that one is slave 1 lol.

Depending on how the card is worded it could make sense. We know that some ships, like the Ghost in Rebels, for example can mask their signature. The idea here is that the ship would be modified as such, so that it sends out a false signal.

"Our sensors are picking up a YT-1300 freighter, it registers as the Millenium Falcon"...

"But that's impossible... the Falcon's docked right here! - someone sending out a false transponder code!"

Thematically it could work.

Masking a signature and gaining unique abilities from modified ships of different make & models is a vast difference.

I could see an illicit card doing this. Seems like a scumy thing to do.

False Ship Identification - 3 points

You may equip any ship title to this ship.

Of course Boba with Moldy Crow and Recon Spec almost seems broken.

Of course Boba with Moldy Crow and Recon Spec almost seems broken.

I mean, sure, but the Moldy Crow title is small potatoes. I don't want to see anything but the TIE Advanced running the TIE/x1 title.

Edited by Vorpal Sword

I think about Wedge and Biggs somehow getting a hold of the IG-2000 title cards and see the game just breaking to pieces.

I think about Wedge and Biggs somehow getting a hold of the IG-2000 title cards and see the game just breaking to pieces.

Multiple Biggs. Yes. That is certainly a game breaker.

I think about Wedge and Biggs somehow getting a hold of the IG-2000 title cards and see the game just breaking to pieces.

How about on a TIE swarm with Dark Curse, Howlrunner, and Backstabber?

Or Royal Guard TIE + engine upgrade + auto thrusters on any number of ships.

I don't think we'll see it to be honest. I'm not purist kind of guy but can you imagine the rage threads that will happen when you start putting down z-95's and say that one is the millennium falcon, that one is the outrider, that one is the Tantive 4, that one is a royal guard tie, that one is an A-wing test pilot, that one is the dauntless, and that one is slave 1 lol.

Depending on how the card is worded it could make sense. We know that some ships, like the Ghost in Rebels, for example can mask their signature. The idea here is that the ship would be modified as such, so that it sends out a false signal.

"Our sensors are picking up a YT-1300 freighter, it registers as the Millenium Falcon"...

"But that's impossible... the Falcon's docked right here! - someone sending out a false transponder code!"

Thematically it could work.

Masking a signature is not the same thing as granting the ship certain abilities