Just to skew the gender imbalance a little further.
Guri isnt really female, shes a droid, she doesnt have a gender. She can look feminine and act feminine but she doesnt actually have a gender.
Just splitting hairs!
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Just to skew the gender imbalance a little further.
Guri isnt really female, shes a droid, she doesnt have a gender. She can look feminine and act feminine but she doesnt actually have a gender.
Just splitting hairs!
Well, she doesn't have a Sex. We'd have to ask whether she identifies one way or another, thus becoming Gendered.
Just to skew the gender imbalance a little further.
Guri isnt really female, shes a droid, she doesnt have a gender. She can look feminine and act feminine but she doesnt actually have a gender.
Just splitting hairs!
Well, she doesn't have a Sex. We'd have to ask whether she identifies one way or another, thus becoming Gendered.
Wookieepedia typically assigns droids a gender (though not a biological sex) and most droids seem to be gendered male (C-3PO, R2-D2, etc). I found Guri kind of irritating because of course the first droid gendered female is what amounts to a sex toy. Granted, Guri is supposed to be a bodyguard and assassin, but it's quite clear that Xizor uses her for more than that, and her appearance is clearly designed more for titillating men than for passing undetected in society. But it's very interesting to contrast Guri as an assassin bot with our other bounty hunter assassin bot IG-88, listed in Wookieepedia as being male in programming. Their appearances are shockingly different.
Could somebody please photoshop IG-88 into this outfit?
the first droid gendered female is what amounts to a sex toy.
I always thought R5-D4 was a female astromech.
Could've sworn C-3PO was gendered as female more often than not (not consistently obviously).
I found Guri kind of irritating because of course the first droid gendered female is what amounts to a sex toy.
I always figured the sex toy look was part of what made her a good assassin. You see Guri lounging around in that outfit, and you're quite a bit less likely to assume she could kill you. You'll assume she's there for amusement and eye candy.
Which again makes her all the more deadly, because you're too busy staring at her chest to notice the knife.
But I ask again, for a link where FFG said that Whisper is a woman, because I don't remember seeing it and want to see what else I missed. Echo I know was referred to both as he and she in different locations so who knows... But Whisper was AFAIK never referred to by a gendered pronoun.
But Whisper was AFAIK never referred to by a gendered pronoun.
Whisper has not, by FFG.
I think folks just want two lady assassins.
I found Guri kind of irritating because of course the first droid gendered female is what amounts to a sex toy.
I always figured the sex toy look was part of what made her a good assassin. You see Guri lounging around in that outfit, and you're quite a bit less likely to assume she could kill you. You'll assume she's there for amusement and eye candy.
Which again makes her all the more deadly, because you're too busy staring at her chest to notice the knife.
Surely, then all the other really dangerous Jedi hunters, assassins, and bounty hunters should do the same -- I mean, if it's all about efficiency and being as dangerous as possible, right? Like IG-88. The Noghri. Darth Maul. HK 47. General Greivous. Jango and Boba Fett.
The list of scantily clad assassin/seductress sexbots should go on and on, if that were the reason. But that's not the reason, it's an after-the-fact justification, in order to introduce a character that fits the long-running literary trope of the leggy, loyal, femme fatale assistant.
I'm not saying she's terrible or whatever, but let's not pretend that's not what she is.
Whisper has not, by FFG.
I didn't think they had, but I've seen people make the claim so I wanted to see a link or something that said so.
I'm not saying she's terrible or whatever, but let's not pretend that's not what she is.
Did I ever say she wasn't? She's clearly a trope, but it's a trope for a reason, and I was merely stating what the trope was. Does that trope offend you somehow? Does the idea of someone using their appearance as a weapon offend you?
I'm not saying she's terrible or whatever, but let's not pretend that's not what she is.
Did I ever say she wasn't? She's clearly a trope, but it's a trope for a reason, and I was merely stating what the trope was. Does that trope offend you somehow? Does the idea of someone using their appearance as a weapon offend you?
No, or I probably wouldn't write 30's-style noir PI fiction.
I don't hold it against folks it does offend, though, and I don't defend it if they dislike it.
No, or I probably wouldn't write 30's-style noir PI fiction.
Ok maybe one of us misread the others post then. Because it seemed like you were offended by what I said.
The idea of a 'sex toy' assassin isn't by any means new, or even fiction for that matter. So I'm not sure why it would bother anyone. You don't need to dress sexy to be deadly, but it can and does get used as a weapon all the time.
No, or I probably wouldn't write 30's-style noir PI fiction.
Ok maybe one of us misread the others post then. Because it seemed like you were offended by what I said.
The idea of a 'sex toy' assassin isn't by any means new, or even fiction for that matter. So I'm not sure why it would bother anyone. You don't need to dress sexy to be deadly, but it can and does get used as a weapon all the time.
I'll fine with chalking it up to internet crossed wires, yes.
I always thought R5-D4 was a female astromech.the first droid gendered female is what amounts to a sex toy.
EV-9D9 is patently not a sex toy.
In the movies, the clearest 'female' droid I can think of is EV-9D9, in Return o/t Jedi. As I recall, the novel also refers to 'she'.
I always thought R5-D4 was a female astromech.the first droid gendered female is what amounts to a sex toy.
EV-9D9 is patently not a sex toy.
Interesting, I had always interpreted that voice as male. Never would have considered that. Cool.
I'm also still waiting for IG-88 in that outfit. Somebody has got to have the skills to pull that off.
You sure you want this to happen?
Yes.
Just to skew the gender imbalance a little further.
Guri isnt really female, shes a droid, she doesnt have a gender. She can look feminine and act feminine but she doesnt actually have a gender.
Just splitting hairs!
Well, she doesn't have a Sex. We'd have to ask whether she identifies one way or another, thus becoming Gendered.
Wookieepedia typically assigns droids a gender (though not a biological sex) and most droids seem to be gendered male (C-3PO, R2-D2, etc). I found Guri kind of irritating because of course the first droid gendered female is what amounts to a sex toy. Granted, Guri is supposed to be a bodyguard and assassin, but it's quite clear that Xizor uses her for more than that, and her appearance is clearly designed more for titillating men than for passing undetected in society. But it's very interesting to contrast Guri as an assassin bot with our other bounty hunter assassin bot IG-88, listed in Wookieepedia as being male in programming. Their appearances are shockingly different.
EV-9D9 was female
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/EV-9D9
What about the Gonk droid?
Just to skew the gender imbalance a little further.
Guri isnt really female, shes a droid, she doesnt have a gender. She can look feminine and act feminine but she doesnt actually have a gender.
Just splitting hairs!
Well, she doesn't have a Sex. We'd have to ask whether she identifies one way or another, thus becoming Gendered.
Wookieepedia typically assigns droids a gender (though not a biological sex) and most droids seem to be gendered male (C-3PO, R2-D2, etc). I found Guri kind of irritating because of course the first droid gendered female is what amounts to a sex toy. Granted, Guri is supposed to be a bodyguard and assassin, but it's quite clear that Xizor uses her for more than that, and her appearance is clearly designed more for titillating men than for passing undetected in society. But it's very interesting to contrast Guri as an assassin bot with our other bounty hunter assassin bot IG-88, listed in Wookieepedia as being male in programming. Their appearances are shockingly different.
EV-9D9 was female
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/EV-9D9
Yeah, that was mentioned, but I think it's rather tangential to my point.
EV-9D9 was female
Who the hell made that decision? That droid doesn't look, sound, act, speak or indicate female in any way.
EV-9D9 was female
Who the hell made that decision? That droid doesn't look, sound, act, speak or indicate female in any way.
But apparently was voiced by a woman according to some of the conversations on the wookieepedia page - same woman who did ET.
"Sometime after the Battle of Endor, rumors began to spread regarding a "Cult of the Power Droids." Apparently, a pair of GNK Power Droids would come to one's door and request funding for a religious fringe group. Advice from renowned linguist Ebenn Q3 Baobab was that one should merely utter the phrase "Gonk. Gonk. Gonk ko kyenga see," a highly controversial statement that was not allowed to be legally translated (see Baobab Security Directive 51-C)."
Could've sworn C-3PO was gendered as female more often than not (not consistently obviously).
C-3PO is a dandy, which is a totally different thing.